I don't get why people thought the game was SJW overreach.

To be fair we have pretty much all the porn you could want today and people still go to strip clubs.

I think the only way sexbots would put a dent in that is if they were rather cheap and affordable for the average person, but obviously the game doesn't answer these sorts of questions =P

Indeed, but strip clubs are rather specialty shops in most places, aren't they?  IOW, most pubs, clubs, lounges, neighborhood bars and the like don't have strippers, while all but one of them did in MET.  I frankly got really tired of asari strippers everywhere.

But think about how much has changed since 1851, and then fast forward 166 years from now.  If sexbots were expensive, they'd probably be available for rental by the hour (or minute, in some cases.)

I've come to expect some type of gay, lesbian, trans inclusion in their video games. It became a staple in their two IPs. I am proud of their practice for that, even though I'm just a white male gamer who doesn't benefit at all.

I don't think it takes away from the game or degrades it. I don't think SJWs influenced the game either. I don't remember much besides enjoying the game.

Now..was it Hainley or something.. that looked like it was in there for the sake of inclusion. I just went through her dialogue and checked some stuff out for her. :shrug:

Where was this SJW agenda?

It kind of depends on the area. I wouldn't expect to see one on the Nexus, but Kadara is shady enough that it very likely has one even if we don't see it. Especially considering they don't have the resources of the main initiative anymore and it's easier to pay somebody than it would be to maintain a sexbot.

Though in reality I doubt it would be just Asari everywhere. These kinds of places tend to make good money on exotic dancers, so you'd likely see a wide variety of species.

The problem is that the Asari in the first Mass Effect is pretty obviously there to be eye candy, and this would stick with them in future games.

It would be hilarious to see Hanar dancers, and you just know somebody would be into that.

If this isn't a thing that involves copious amounts of headbutting, I'm not interested.

Ten years ago people didn't give a crap if games had "diversity". What crawled up people's ass? Was it the reaction to Anita? I don't care for her but damn it's like people have decided to go off the deep end to oppose people like her.

I didn't even know what an sjw was until about 3 years ago when I saw people using it to bitch about DAI

While that group of people flipping their collective shit would be the best publicity she ever got, it's more so that she sparked something in the gaming industry that the internet took and did what it does best: Polarized people's opinions into a "us vs them" mentality designed to shut down any and all discussion on the matter.

Suddenly suggesting that there may have been a few valid points in this whole "Hey maybe some parts of gaming kind of are sexist" gets you called a SJW, and pointing out faulty arguments or overreaction on the half calling gaming sexist was met with you being called sexist as well for not agreeing with them.

Which it wasn't exactly Anita's fault(other than a lot of her specific arguments actually are utter bullshit) and if not her then it would have been somebody else, but it ultimately was her and the reaction to her that got the whole thing to blow up and become this big deal to a lot of people.

I was referring to people that complain about "forced diversity".  I am down with diversity especially in an rpg which as a genre is about letting the player define their own experience.

I've seen them called both/either by different people in different conversations.  ME had no nudity until MEA, so it's not out of the question to interpret them as strippers.  Either way, I don't care.


I disagree - Anita tapped into a very deep groundswell of resentment over the treatment of females in media that had been festering for a very long time. That's why her initial video proposals were (vastly over) funded in record time, and why they drew so much attention. If the topic didn't resonate with a lot of people, they (and everything else she's done) would have been largely ignored, and possibly left unfunded.  As it is, she's stirred up an awful lot of passion on both sides.

Yet some topless clubs refer to their employees as dancers rather than strippers - even when those dancers remove clothing as part of their performance.

I understand that strict adherence to language favors your arguments, but common usage doesn't always. I've seen these arguments before (mostly on the old, original BSN) and I personally don't care whether people choose to call them strippers or dancers.

My wording came out wrong.  I think if you read my followup post it clarifies my position better.