Shepard and Ryder gets into a fist fight. Who wins?

Oct 7, 2017 2:20:42 GMT KaiserShep said:

Oct 6, 2017 9:17:22 GMT The Twilight God said:

It's far too close if you ask me. And there is no sarcasm in that statement whatsoever.

They're both murder machines that can lay waste to fuck-tons of enemies that would normally stomp over whole armies. This reminds me of those shitty Hawke vs. Warden threads. People can say what they want, but Hawke was a goddamn human blender that let the streets of Kirkwall run red with everything.

Ryder, some rookie dweeb whose last assignment was staring out of a window into space or a research assistant vs. the greatest of the N7's, and most famous SPECTRE, who was a total badass BEFORE being upgraded into a super human cyborg and becoming Space Jesus. You think SAM can make up the difference? LOL!! Wait.. wait... you're serious....

I think we have ourselves a heretic here!!! Guys!! Guys!! SEIZE HER!!!!

OFF!!!

WITH!!!

HER!!!

HEAD!!!

Oct 7, 2017 13:52:49 GMT Phantom said:

Oct 7, 2017 0:20:04 GMT alanc9 said:

What's your evidence for this? (Besides wanting to believe it, of course.)

I have training in the martial arts. So Ryder instantly mastering  Hand to Hand Combat or any martial arts is more of an unbelievable aspect to him similar how Neo learned the martial arts within the Matrix. Cybernetics can help out any martial artist and soldier in overall performance but to become good at any skill including martial arts, H2H Combat and overall military training, will take awhile.


I am not saying that Ryder is not a good soldier, Just Shepard is miles above Ryder in both Hand to Hand Combat and overall military training and experience. In Short, N7 Soldier of Shepard's caliber is in the real world is an experienced Elite Special Forces Soldier. 

In the Matrix it's believable because it's not his actual muscle memory. It's not his actual body. Outside the Matrix he knows nothing he didn't learn the old fashion way. 

SAM or no SAM a human body has limits. In Andromeda it's Ryder's actual body and motor reflexes. If his body isn't properly prepared he would probably hurt and/or over exert himself. Unless SAM is a sorcerer using magic, controlling the bodies endorphins, regulating heartbeat, etc. isn't going to change that. Overtaxing his body to compensate will just lead to long term illness. 

Shepard is like the girl from Ghost in the Shell, the guy from Terminator Salvation or Darth Vader. Does Ryder even have cybernetics to the extent that he would be classify as a cyborg?

Oct 8, 2017 15:09:10 GMT Trilobite Derby said:

Oct 8, 2017 13:39:49 GMT The Twilight God said:

It's completely absurd that you could shoot one to death with your little pew pew guns, much less punch it to death.

Anything Ryder can do Shepard can do better. Therefore, Shepard can stare an Architect to death.

Let the absurdities begin.

Man, Shepard can't even punch the Rannoch Reaper. The best thing vanguard Shepard can punch is a harvester. Very depressing... Though I suppose one could argue Shepard is just too sensible to punch huge things. Ryder, in the meantime, can charge (assuming you took vanguard profile and honestly why wouldn't you) right up the Harvester's laser eye... and punch it. YEAH.

Has Ryder punched a reaper? No.

Has Ryder even fought a reaper? No.

Reaper>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times infinity>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Architect.

Shepard could fart on an architect and obliterate it. (folds arms and tilts head back) Facts.