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Post by alanc9 on Oct 13, 2017 0:14:13 GMT
You greed perverted money grabbing Larfleeze wannabees who want all to follow your stereotypical mantra of " multiplayer is the way to go" you EA will never see another dime from me -no. Not even a PENNY! I am done with you EA. Why in the world do I want to play a game that forces multiplayer elements to get the "full" game experience? Even if I didn't have such a crappy internet connection to begin with I would never play any single player game that has multiplayer included ever again. As much as I hate to get in the way of a good rant, Bio was guilty of wrecking games with MP long before EA came along. If you really did follow your rule about MP, you wouldn't be able to play BG1, BG2, and NWN.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Oct 13, 2017 6:33:28 GMT
You greed perverted money grabbing Larfleeze wannabees who want all to follow your stereotypical mantra of " multiplayer is the way to go" you EA will never see another dime from me -no. Not even a PENNY! I am done with you EA. Why in the world do I want to play a game that forces multiplayer elements to get the "full" game experience? Even if I didn't have such a crappy internet connection to begin with I would never play any single player game that has multiplayer included ever again. As much as I hate to get in the way of a good rant, Bio was guilty of wrecking games with MP long before EA came along. If you really did follow your rule about MP, you wouldn't be able to play BG1, BG2, and NWN. I don't.
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Post by warrior on Oct 13, 2017 6:56:23 GMT
I picked No instead of Unsure bc I am not buying the game as it has been marketed so far. But it has received very little marketing yet and I can see myself purchasing if there is more SP than expected.
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Post by warrior on Oct 13, 2017 6:58:11 GMT
As much as I hate to get in the way of a good rant, Bio was guilty of wrecking games with MP long before EA came along. If you really did follow your rule about MP, you wouldn't be able to play BG1, BG2, and NWN. I don't. lol same
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Post by vonuber on Oct 13, 2017 11:58:54 GMT
Nope. Just pointing out the ironic. I applaud your dedication to your daughters, honestly. However, if the game turns out to be great and people whose opinion you value like the game, I think you'll manage to find the time for it, somehow. We aren't mortal enemies, you know. Finding time for the forums, screenshots and SP games differs a lot from finding time for an MP game, because in an MP game you do not have a luxury to participate whenever and for whatever length of time you have. And your experiences are invariably impacted too much by other people. SP gaming is much like jogging in a park. MP game is like playing soccer. It's much easier to fit in a jog in your life; a match, even impromptu, is way, way more challenging to get into, particularly on a regular basis. If anthem has the ability for me to go AFK for an indeterminate amount of time and not affect anyone else's game, and also not have a skill ceiling that requires a certain amount of hours playing to be able to play effectively, then it becomes more viable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 12:26:27 GMT
Finding time for the forums, screenshots and SP games differs a lot from finding time for an MP game, because in an MP game you do not have a luxury to participate whenever and for whatever length of time you have. And your experiences are invariably impacted too much by other people. SP gaming is much like jogging in a park. MP game is like playing soccer. It's much easier to fit in a jog in your life; a match, even impromptu, is way, way more challenging to get into, particularly on a regular basis. If anthem has the ability for me to go AFK for an indeterminate amount of time and not affect anyone else's game, and also not have a skill ceiling that requires a certain amount of hours playing to be able to play effectively, then it becomes more viable. Mmgh, with an addendum of "Providing that the activities you can do in that way are not boring/repetitive". Most solo dungeons and mob slaughter dailies are boring af after three or five times, and the areas designated for drop-in drop-out parallel play with spontaneous non-formalized cooperation (aka you do not have to join a group, you just go an hit on a reward-of-kill boss just like everyone in the area) give loot so poor, everyone abandons them for structured dungeons with high pay offs. Honestly, if Anthem has a decent story you can play solo, without the need to do mp to gear up, I'd buy it after it's dead/in maintenance mode, and the MP population moved on.
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Post by abaris on Oct 13, 2017 15:11:37 GMT
If you really did follow your rule about MP, you wouldn't be able to play BG1, BG2, and NWN. At least NWN was a continuation of the pen and paper idea. Master and players embarking on their created adventures. It's not on the same lines as the simple horde modes being forced into every Bioware game for the last five years. Modes that attract a very different set of players and modes that are designed to be riddled with microtransactions to change every last dime on the backs of the credulous. People that aren't interested or haven't got the patience to grind for the goodies. It's also very easy and cost effective to create and host horde modes as opposed to a more thoughtful online approach. All they need to do is to create maps with certain spawn points and flags. An intern job, once the infrastructure is in place.
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Post by SwobyJ on Oct 13, 2017 17:52:54 GMT
Considering? Yes.
But not with my own money as a pre-order or launch.
If my partner gets it for me as a gift, I'll take it, and money is still spent (just less likely we both get new copies, right?).
If I buy it, it'd be after launch on discount and after updates.
They haven't earned my enthusiasm, but they have retained some of my interest.
I said 'Yes' but 'Unsure' would also count.
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Post by sungrey on Oct 13, 2017 20:04:41 GMT
No, because I'm not a fan of online-only multiplayer games. And I think MEA got shortchanged because of the new IP.
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Post by Vall on Oct 13, 2017 20:55:40 GMT
I will always be somewhat predisposed to disliking Anthem because it feels like it's at least part of the reason why support of MEA ended (whether it's truth or not, that's what I feel happened...and I'm not sure whether I want to know the truth or not).
That said, it all depends on what the meat of the game will be like: story and characters. If those feel like they came from Bioware (branching conversations, interesting NPCs...) rather than something you might find in say Destiny, I might give it a shot, even if reluctantly. If not, well...the game might as well not exist as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by nvanfleet on Oct 13, 2017 22:44:17 GMT
It's a no from me, until it's been out and I hear about what the SP experience is like. I can handle playing an MMO as long as I can play it by myself and not have to deal with random PK or *needing* to group up to handle a story thing. SW:TOR was pretty good in this regard. If it's like *that*, I may dip my toes in. If it's *not*, though, then no thanks.
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Post by naytnavare on Oct 14, 2017 0:11:28 GMT
Nope. Without support for MEA, I simply don't trust them witg my dollar.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 14, 2017 0:38:52 GMT
As much as I hate to get in the way of a good rant, Bio was guilty of wrecking games with MP long before EA came along. If you really did follow your rule about MP, you wouldn't be able to play BG1, BG2, and NWN. I don't. You should. The BG games, anyway. For NWN I'd stick to the expansions and fan mods.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 0:49:30 GMT
You should. The BG games, anyway. For NWN I'd stick to the expansions and fan mods. NWN will always have the ugliest graphics in 3D. I'd start a retro Bio exploration from Jade Empire. NWN was eyesore even when it was released.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Oct 14, 2017 0:49:35 GMT
You should. The BG games, anyway. For NWN I'd stick to the expansions and fan mods. Well the MP aside I could. Though those games never really work right on my custom Windows 10 system. Sure can get them to install but it is trouble to get them to run.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 14, 2017 0:49:53 GMT
If you really did follow your rule about MP, you wouldn't be able to play BG1, BG2, and NWN. At least NWN was a continuation of the pen and paper idea. Master and players embarking on their created adventures. It's not on the same lines as the simple horde modes being forced into every Bioware game for the last five years. Modes that attract a very different set of players and modes that are designed to be riddled with microtransactions to change every last dime on the backs of the credulous. People that aren't interested or haven't got the patience to grind for the goodies. It's also very easy and cost effective to create and host horde modes as opposed to a more thoughtful online approach. All they need to do is to create maps with certain spawn points and flags. An intern job, once the infrastructure is in place. Can you walk me through the difference between fighting a swarm of gibberlings in BG1 and fighting a swarm of kett in ME:A? What makes one horde mode and the other not?
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 14, 2017 0:55:20 GMT
You should. The BG games, anyway. For NWN I'd stick to the expansions and fan mods. NWN will always have the ugliest graphics in 3D. I'd start a retro Bio exploration from Jade Empire. NWN was eyesore even when it was released. Yeah, pretty much. I think the majority position on the Bio boards of that era was that 3D was a mistake and Bio should go back to 2D isometric.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 1:01:36 GMT
NWN will always have the ugliest graphics in 3D. I'd start a retro Bio exploration from Jade Empire. NWN was eyesore even when it was released. Yeah, pretty much. I think the majority position on the Bio boards of that era was that 3D was a mistake and Bio should go back to 2D isometric. Well, yeah, Icewind Dale was about that same time, and it has gorgeous backgrounds. It looked like NWN was a dead end. Obviously if you would put it against something ugly in 2D, like Arcanum... but against prettier isos... not a chance. NWN2 and later games were better. Jade was pretty for its time, kotor was tolerable... but, honestly, I think DA3 was an eyesore... so 3D is still hit and miss.
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Post by Superhik on Oct 14, 2017 1:02:27 GMT
NWN had some of the best rpg multiplayer ev-a-r, but that was a l-o-ng time ago. Seems the loot is driving factor here, but what they showed was a bit underwhelming. Also leveled loot system+open world, not really a good combination. Well, at least for traditional rpg players.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 1:09:05 GMT
I did a lot of rallying against the ugly square worlds of NWN and its terrible OC. Peeps are shocked by DA2 or MEA. That's nothing when you went from BG and IWD to NWN. It was literally night and day. After NWN I think nothing can phase me out. Dark, dark times.
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Post by abaris on Oct 14, 2017 8:36:29 GMT
Can you walk me through the difference between fighting a swarm of gibberlings in BG1 and fighting a swarm of kett in ME:A? What makes one horde mode and the other not? Can't say anything on BG1, since I only had a 33k modem back then and didn't even try. That's why I was singling out NWN. Fact is, since then only highly uninspired MP are made. Geared at selling microtransactions. Other companies offer more in terms of MP, though, in lack of aquaintances playing online I don't use them either. Larian, for example, offers the possibility to play the whole campaign with a group of real people, not just shoot 'em up maps. Same as NWN did and same as NWN2 by Obsidian. That's the real distinction between the horde modes and a more thoughtful approach. Apart from the fact that these games also aren't riddled with microtransactions. To my knowledge, Larian doesn't even consider offering them as opposed to Bioware, where they are the business model.
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Post by guanxi on Oct 14, 2017 12:35:35 GMT
No interest in these fee-to-pay, persistent-world, lite-mmo loot-shooters even if it is the Bob Dylan of Destiny Clones. It doesn't matter how pretty you dress up a festering cancer... the underlying mechanics are as abhorrent, tacky and exploitative as any two-bit gambling app masquerading as a video-game.
If you support the propagation of skinner-box business models and the erosion of single-player campaigns you are contributing to the ruination of video-games as a visual artistic medium and sending BioWare, EA and the rest of the industry the wrong message that you are okay with one of the last bastions of role-playing-storytelling in AAA games giving up and churning out the same low-effort cookie-cutter brightly colored tripe that the rest of the industry trend followers have devolved into albeit with moderately higher production values and unlike their Activision/Blizzard counterparts a "story" that doesn't make you want to drop-kick little kids.
I hope they fall flat on their faces to teach them some humility for the dreadful handling, & unofficial cancellation of the Mass Effect series, and their smug hubris over Anthem ever since. Until BioWare get back to making proper 'BioWare RPGs' again to near universal applause they'll truthfully never see another penny from me.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Oct 14, 2017 14:49:51 GMT
No interest in these fee-to-pay, persistent-world, lite-mmo loot-shooters even if it is the Bob Dylan of Destiny Clones. It doesn't matter how pretty you dress up a festering cancer... the underlying mechanics are as abhorrent, tacky and exploitative as any two-bit gambling app masquerading as a video-game. If you support the propagation of skinner-box business models and the erosion of single-player campaigns you are contributing to the ruination of video-games as a visual artistic medium and sending BioWare, EA and the rest of the industry the wrong message that you are okay with one of the last bastions of role-playing-storytelling in AAA games giving up and churning out the same low-effort cookie-cutter brightly colored tripe that the rest of the industry trend followers have devolved into albeit with moderately higher production values and unlike their Activision/Blizzard counterparts a "story" that doesn't make you want to drop-kick little kids. I hope they fall flat on their faces to teach them some humility for the dreadful handling, & unofficial cancellation of the Mass Effect series, and their smug hubris over Anthem ever since. Until BioWare get back to making proper 'BioWare RPGs' again to near universal applause they'll truthfully never see another penny from me. First... Sorry if sensory overload occurred. You are not alone...
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Oct 14, 2017 17:58:41 GMT
I have enough of MP/MMO games. Too many of them. The only 2 games i am interested with are FM 2018 and eventually Elex.
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