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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 18:09:28 GMT
The logic is mind-boggling, who's going to bother reading a novel for a game's who's support got cut almost a year prior? Sure there are die-hard fans out there, but they're not anywhere near enough of them to make the novel profitable, especially after they've alienated so much of their fanbase by cutting support for Andromeda so quickly. At this point I don't even a see a clear way up for Mass Effect anymore, a single DLC for Andromeda might have been the perfect way for the series to avenge itself in the face Andromeda's critical response, books and comics just aren't going to cut it. I agree. A short summary on the web page would have sufficed to wrap up the plots that did not make it into the game. That's what most of us will read anyway, a synopsis of the novel on wiki to find out what happened to the QUarians & who sabotaged AI.
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Post by obatalaryder on Oct 27, 2017 19:44:29 GMT
I'm not up to date with the current information about the future of the MEA franchise at this point, so I'm curious to understand WHY the unreleased novels are still being worked on. What's the point/purpose of publishing these novels? Because these writers were hired to write these books before the game even came out? The checks have already been made.
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Post by obatalaryder on Oct 27, 2017 19:46:04 GMT
You guys sound ridiculous, comcs and novels have always been by the side of every ME release.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2017 19:48:34 GMT
You guys sound ridiculous, comcs and novels have always been by the side of every ME release. Never before have they been delayed tremendous amounts of time to cram in content that should have been rightfully DLC.
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Post by rahavan on Oct 27, 2017 20:01:09 GMT
You guys sound ridiculous, comcs and novels have always been by the side of every ME release. Never before have they been delayed tremendous amounts of time to cram in content that should have been rightfully DLC. And with a lot of us being salty were not going to buy shit while the wounds are still raw.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 27, 2017 20:06:37 GMT
Way to go EA. On the brightside i should be finished with ASOIF by then so i might just be able to pick this one up.
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Post by river82 on Oct 27, 2017 20:09:32 GMT
If they are actually adding content to the book, I'd be very surprised. They commissioned reasonably well-known, award-winning SF/Fantasy authors to write these novels, and I would think asking Catherynne M. Valente to go back and write more would require some sort of additional financial investment. I would've just published the novel as is and got it over with, if the intent is indeed to wrap up ME:A and never speak of it again. Authors are paid so poorly that it would be a pittance compared with the normal expenditure of game development, TBH.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Oct 27, 2017 20:46:51 GMT
If they are actually adding content to the book, I'd be very surprised. They commissioned reasonably well-known, award-winning SF/Fantasy authors to write these novels, and I would think asking Catherynne M. Valente to go back and write more would require some sort of additional financial investment. I would've just published the novel as is and got it over with, if the intent is indeed to wrap up ME:A and never speak of it again. Authors are paid so poorly that it would be a pittance compared with the normal expenditure of game development, TBH. I'm aware of the going commission rate, and it's more than I earn in my job. Even if being a multi-award winning author doesn't give them any bargaining power, I wouldn't pay even one extra cent for the side novel of a franchise I planned to kill.
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Post by natetrace on Oct 27, 2017 21:04:02 GMT
It is interesting how this book will be released a year and a half after the game came out and given it's not so warm reception. At least it's something. Mass Effect is still getting more than Dead Space or Half Life 3 at least. I would prefer game content but this is something, anyway. At this point I think the Ryder story is mostly done, though I hope we get more Andromeda later on. I want to wipe out the Kett! Even if you hated the game use that hate to kill more Kett! I liked Andromeda, and hate it when things are left unresolved.
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Post by abaris on Oct 27, 2017 21:13:16 GMT
You guys sound ridiculous, comcs and novels have always been by the side of every ME release. Not for me. I always was content playing the game and didn't see the need to read up on what I missed. I'm still not interested in the novels, but MEA is the first in the series leaving gaping plot holes in the game itself.
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Post by sil on Oct 27, 2017 21:35:41 GMT
I enjoy reading the novels, but this novel should've been DLC. I will read it, but I'm unlikely to buy it. I'll just borrow from the library.
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Post by xassantex on Oct 27, 2017 21:42:15 GMT
sounds as exciting as a bowl of lemon Jell-O.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 27, 2017 21:50:04 GMT
You guys sound ridiculous, comcs and novels have always been by the side of every ME release. I imagine Extended Cut: the Choose Your Adventure pamphlet would have been very well received.
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Post by ProbeAway on Oct 27, 2017 21:50:09 GMT
From the author herself (via twitter):
"For those who are angry about this development: this book has been in the works for 18 months. It was always planned.
"I’m pretty sure I’m allowed to say the premise of the book has been the premise of the book since day 1."
So this is not a replacement for any DLC.
It's possible the book was delayed to add more to the ending which would otherwise have been in DLC. It's also possible that it was pushed back for any number of other behind-the-scenes reasons. EA might have put it on hold while they weighed up the cost of cancelling it vs the cost of going ahead. That would be a very EA thing to do.
Who knows.
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Post by voltangclan on Oct 27, 2017 21:57:14 GMT
The developers of Galaxy of Fantasy would never have pulled something like this.
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Post by Zatche on Oct 28, 2017 0:05:18 GMT
I'm bummed that we're getting DLC. But I'm not salty enough to not read the book.
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Post by majesticjazz on Oct 28, 2017 0:09:26 GMT
From the author herself (via twitter): "For those who are angry about this development: this book has been in the works for 18 months. It was always planned. "I’m pretty sure I’m allowed to say the premise of the book has been the premise of the book since day 1." So this is not a replacement for any DLC. It's possible the book was delayed to add more to the ending which would otherwise have been in DLC. It's also possible that it was pushed back for any number of other behind-the-scenes reasons. EA might have put it on hold while they weighed up the cost of cancelling it vs the cost of going ahead. That would be a very EA thing to do. Who knows. 1) Nobody is disputing that that this book was in development the past 18 months aa it was announced before the game even came out. 2) The PREMISE of the book may have been the same, but that doesnt take away the notion that the book will now tackle stuff that was supposed to be in the DLC 3) So why didnt she say anything about why a book gets delayed for nearly a year?
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Post by ProbeAway on Oct 28, 2017 1:27:34 GMT
From the author herself (via twitter): "For those who are angry about this development: this book has been in the works for 18 months. It was always planned. "I’m pretty sure I’m allowed to say the premise of the book has been the premise of the book since day 1." So this is not a replacement for any DLC. It's possible the book was delayed to add more to the ending which would otherwise have been in DLC. It's also possible that it was pushed back for any number of other behind-the-scenes reasons. EA might have put it on hold while they weighed up the cost of cancelling it vs the cost of going ahead. That would be a very EA thing to do. Who knows. 1) Nobody is disputing that that this book was in development the past 18 months aa it was announced before the game even came out. 2) The PREMISE of the book may have been the same, but that doesnt take away the notion that the book will now tackle stuff that was supposed to be in the DLC 3) So why didnt she say anything about why a book gets delayed for nearly a year? 1) Some people still seem to be under the impression that this book is being released instead of planned DLC. I was just clarifying. 2) So basically what I just said. 3) How would I know? I'm just repeating a couple of tweets, I'm not an insider.
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Post by majesticjazz on Oct 28, 2017 1:30:31 GMT
1) Nobody is disputing that that this book was in development the past 18 months aa it was announced before the game even came out. 2) The PREMISE of the book may have been the same, but that doesnt take away the notion that the book will now tackle stuff that was supposed to be in the DLC 3) So why didnt she say anything about why a book gets delayed for nearly a year? 1) Some people still seem to be under the impression that this book is being released instead of planned DLC. I was just clarifying. 2) So basically what I just said. 3) How would I know? I'm just repeating a couple of tweets, I'm not an insider. Those points were more directed at her, not you.
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Post by isaidlunch on Oct 28, 2017 3:08:39 GMT
The quarian ark arrived in Andromeda after a dangerous journey where they encountered and overcame <foreign threat> by working together with the other species on the ark. The book ends with Erry the Elcor saying "Irritated request: Let's not do that again". And they all lived happily ever after!
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Post by ProbeAway on Oct 28, 2017 3:17:55 GMT
1) Some people still seem to be under the impression that this book is being released instead of planned DLC. I was just clarifying. 2) So basically what I just said. 3) How would I know? I'm just repeating a couple of tweets, I'm not an insider. Those points were more directed at her, not you. Ah that makes much more sense. Sorry.
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Post by Shinobu on Oct 28, 2017 12:20:49 GMT
Authors are paid so poorly that it would be a pittance compared with the normal expenditure of game development, TBH. I'm aware of the going commission rate, and it's more than I earn in my job. Even if being a multi-award winning author doesn't give them any bargaining power, I wouldn't pay even one extra cent for the side novel of a franchise I planned to kill. This is a good point. If Mass Effect Andromeda is truly dead, they would walk away. Even if the author has already been paid, there are costs associated with printing and advertising the book that may not have been paid yet and would require further investment. The optimist in me wonders if the book was delayed in order for its release to coincide with something else that isn't ready now, like the actual Quarian DLC. That would increase interest in both products simultaneously. Delaying a book for a dead franchise would just lead to even fewer sales, so I think there's something else going on. Maybe they're giving time for the hate to die down before sending up a test balloon (book/DLC) to see if MEA2 should be pursued. Did the author confirm there were actual rewrites, or is it just that the (already) finished product is not going out until next year?
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Post by anarchy65 on Oct 28, 2017 15:06:12 GMT
I find it funny people think EA is not making DLC because they are "greedy" since DLC is actually about being "greedy". They would probably make more money by releasing a DLC.
Thing is, they probably don't want more damage done. They don't believe the same team that developed this crappy game could actually save it with a DLC. And they probably don't believe this game is saved and prefer to ignore it. And they are right. Better to spare the resources with future games that players can hopefully actually appreciate.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 28, 2017 15:25:40 GMT
I find it funny people think EA is not making DLC because they are "greedy" since DLC is actually about being "greedy". They would probably make more money by releasing a DLC. Thing is, they probably don't want more damage done. They don't believe the same team that developed this crappy game could actually save it with a DLC. And they probably don't believe this game is saved and prefer to ignore it. And they are right. Better to spare the resources with future games that players can hopefully actually appreciate. If they thought they would make more money by releasing DLC for this game than not, then they would have.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 15:40:40 GMT
I'm not up to date with the current information about the future of the MEA franchise at this point, so I'm curious to understand WHY the unreleased novels are still being worked on. What's the point/purpose of publishing these novels? 1) Planned prior to game release. 2) Just like any novel released in the ME universe, the books add a little backstory/lore. "Nexus Uprising" told the story how we got exiles in MEA, "Mass Effect Initiation" will likely give us more background story on the Andromeda Initiative and "Mass Effect Annihilation" tells the story what the other Milky Way races got through when arriving in Heleus and why we don't see them in game. And the first two are fine. I am always down with books that give us background information but the third one let's be honest is replacing a dlc. Books should never take the place of in game content. I love background and ancillary stories too, so I'm looking forward to the books. It's just that with MEA essentially dead, what fundamental purpose will these book serve? Will their development and release signal that MEA still has some life left in it from EA's perspective? Can we assume that MEA is simply in hiatus (shelved) and BW/EA may or may not return to the franchise in a few years (depending on certain factors)? I'm willing to read the forthcoming books, though I found the book Mass Effect Andromeda: Nexus Uprising story quite boring.
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