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Post by Sanunes on Nov 6, 2017 20:31:09 GMT
Oh it won't be to punish cdpr. It will be to wreak vengeance upon their fans. Bring it on you edgy communist. LOL, as I said, do whatever you like, but if the game is actually good, there is actually NOTHING you can do, no matter how many accounts you create. The thing is even if the game is bad I cannot see people reaching the levels of negativity hurled towards BioWare with Andromeda. Too many people think CDPR is the great savior of video games when they seem to be an EA in the making. Now I know this doesn't represent everyone, but I was called a liar when I was saying that release day version of The Witcher 3 corrupted all my saves just like what people were reporting Andromeda. It bugs me that there doesn't seem to be room for acknowledging other people have a different viewpoint anymore. I can accept that people didn't like Andromeda, but it just seems that there aren't as many people willing to accept I had an enjoyable experience with the game for it isn't the best game I have played, but it is far from the worst.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Nov 6, 2017 20:57:13 GMT
LOL, as I said, do whatever you like, but if the game is actually good, there is actually NOTHING you can do, no matter how many accounts you create. The thing is even if the game is bad I cannot see people reaching the levels of negativity hurled towards BioWare with Andromeda. Too many people think CDPR is the great savior of video games when they seem to be an EA in the making. Now I know this doesn't represent everyone, but I was called a liar when I was saying that release day version of The Witcher 3 corrupted all my saves just like what people were reporting Andromeda. It bugs me that there doesn't seem to be room for acknowledging other people have a different viewpoint anymore. I can accept that people didn't like Andromeda, but it just seems that there aren't as many people willing to accept I had an enjoyable experience with the game for it isn't the best game I have played, but it is far from the worst. Any developer can get shat on if they do something to allow it. Back when the master chief collection came out, a large group took the tag "343bola" (as there was the Ebola thing going on then) to show how much they disliked 343. 343 then had to changed the tag setups to remove the possibility of people using those tags (which didn't work). So the halo fanbase (or at least those who refuse to play 343s version of halo) saw 343 as a "disease" when mcc launched as it was probably the most broken pos seen by them, it was to me. I will say that while 343 has never been on a pedestal, they are much bigger than Bioware so the repercussions were that much worse. If you ask me I see being called a disease worse than what people did with Andromedas memes (and I'm ignoring murder threats cause that happens with any game out there) This is one instance but you could look up various things gamers have said or done to big developers before due to something happening or not happening. Heck even when DA2 was a thing, you had people talking about murdering a writers family, people didn't approve of MW2s lack of dedicated servers and it really drew in a crowd on the guy who admitted to not approving it. I guarantee that if CDRED were to do something that ticked off a group, you can see them get the same treatment as Bioware or other developers out there. My issue with CDRED is they've had ONE game become popular, TW1+2 while good weren't even close to the same level of attention as the third. I'd like to see consistency from CDRED before really praising them as the best. It's why cyberpunk 2077 has much to prove. Can CDRED deliver more than one game with high quality and staying consistent cause if it flops CDRED will jut be a one hit wonder to many people.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Nov 6, 2017 21:46:14 GMT
Oh it won't be to punish cdpr. It will be to wreak vengeance upon their fans. Bring it on you edgy communist. LOL, as I said, do whatever you like, but if the game is actually good, there is actually NOTHING you can do, no matter how many accounts you create. I am sure there are cdpr dedicated forums you can post in.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Nov 6, 2017 22:48:05 GMT
Bollocks. The vast VAST majority of people online are perfectly reasonable and fully capable of engaging in intelligent discussion. If they weren't, forums like this would collapse overnight into cesspits of negativity. You mean we're not a cesspit of negativity? Damn. I really thought this forum had achieved a mark of distinction. Oh well. Maybe I should open a thread about the ME3 endings to get us over the hill?
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Post by derrame on Nov 7, 2017 1:00:29 GMT
that does not make sense, i love the trilogy, i dont like me3 ending
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Post by q5tyhj on Nov 7, 2017 4:02:07 GMT
If you wish to remain blissfully unaware of reality, then be my guest. Liked for the epic irony of this comment.
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Post by q5tyhj on Nov 7, 2017 4:04:43 GMT
You'd have to be blind to not see that there was a movement organised against this game by disgruntled haters with an agenda. Oh. My. God. Yeah this thread passed into unabashed crackpottery a few pages ago: organized movements and secret conspiracies and shadowy cabals (drugs are bad mmmkay?)
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Post by river82 on Nov 7, 2017 4:11:49 GMT
Bollocks. The vast VAST majority of people online are perfectly reasonable and fully capable of engaging in intelligent discussion. If they weren't, forums like this would collapse overnight into cesspits of negativity. The obvious point that should be made is that these are the Bioware forums Mark 2 and the original forum was shut down because the developers apparently didn't want to deal with the cesspool of negativity. Internet forums are great places for robust discussion. Unfortunately forums are dying and everybody is moving onto social media which aren't great places for robust discussion, rather social media sites are great places to establish echo chambers and not have to deal with anybody you don't want to. Where are the vast majority of people online? Social media. Nuff said
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Post by abaris on Nov 7, 2017 10:21:04 GMT
The obvious point that should be made is that these are the Bioware forums Mark 2 and the original forum was shut down because the developers apparently didn't want to deal with the cesspool of negativity. Tough. Every other developer has their official forums and more or less deals with every cirticism thrown at them. The better question would be why there is so much negativity against Bioware and not against other developers. The playing field is even. They all have to deal with the same amount of social media. And no, an organized crowd homing in on Bioware doesn't cut it. It's rather that they went looking for a new and broader audience, starting with DA2, which is well documented by statements coming from the higher ups at EA as well as Bioware. Not only didn't they manage to make up for the loss of their old audience, they didn't manage to draw in a sufficient crowd being into their new approach. DAI was still a solid game, weaknesses aside, and they got the sales numbers and recption to show it. MEA wasn't. For whatever reason. Not as bad a game as some make it out to be, but one of the thousands that drift into Oblivion, once the original attraction is gone. In that and in many other aspects, MEA is mainstream. Certainly not a train wreck, but certainly not a masterpiece either.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 7, 2017 14:18:36 GMT
In this particular instance, it was quite clear that the unique political climate in 2016-2017 empowered entitled whiny anti-SJW morons who had personal beef with BioWare and went out of their way to trash the game before and after its release. One look at the early Metacritic ratings and reddit posts is enough to back this.
MEA had a lot of faults and bugs and many complaints were justified, but that's nothing unique in any game. The animation issues were probably the dumbest set of complaints I have ever seen.
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Post by anarchy65 on Nov 7, 2017 14:28:43 GMT
LOL, as I said, do whatever you like, but if the game is actually good, there is actually NOTHING you can do, no matter how many accounts you create. The thing is even if the game is bad I cannot see people reaching the levels of negativity hurled towards BioWare with Andromeda. Too many people think CDPR is the great savior of video games when they seem to be an EA in the making. Now I know this doesn't represent everyone, but I was called a liar when I was saying that release day version of The Witcher 3 corrupted all my saves just like what people were reporting Andromeda. It bugs me that there doesn't seem to be room for acknowledging other people have a different viewpoint anymore. I can accept that people didn't like Andromeda, but it just seems that there aren't as many people willing to accept I had an enjoyable experience with the game for it isn't the best game I have played, but it is far from the worst. EA in the making? Why? They seem to be exactly the contrary. People like CDPR because they made one of the best game of all times and they listen to their fans. Yes, at release day The Witcher 3 had a lot of bugs, as it was expected, but the speed in which patches were released to correct them was incredible. In 2 weeks, most of the bugs were corrected. And funny thing, the company even made jokes about it in their DLCs, acknowledging the bugs. And while many companies like EA focus on Multiplayer, TW3 had no multiplayer nor microtransactions. On the contrary, it had 16 free DLCs. And it had only two (wonderful, by the way) payable DLCs, everything by a very affordable price (at least in Brazil). Plus, it has been two years since The Witcher 3, and they haven't even released footage of Cyberpunk, which means they aren't going to release it before they should, like EA does. It's fine if you had a nice experience with it, but you also have to accept that most people didn't, because the game is absolutely horrible (and you can still have a nice experience with a game even if it's bad). I'm not part of the "hate" group or "anti-SJW" group, because I really like Bioware and their games, and I may even be considered a "SJW", but Mass Effect: Andromeda is, sincerely, one of the worst games I played entirely.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 7, 2017 14:33:18 GMT
Ah yes the 16 free DLCs, where one DLC is composed of only a new outfit for your Geralt to wear! Such high quality! There were still gamebreaking bugs months after release. They only fixed the most obvious ones. They were nowhere near as crucified as BioWare was for them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 14:43:25 GMT
Ah yes the 16 free DLCs, where one DLC is composed of only a new outfit for your Geralt to wear! Such high quality! There were still gamebreaking bugs months after release. They only fixed the most obvious ones. They were nowhere near as crucified as BioWare was for them. Keep living in that reddit echo chamber. Look dude, we get it, you hate TW3 and spooge all over anything Mass Effect. To me it seems you're apart of the same gamer culture you talk shit about soooooooo much. It just applies to anything that isn't Mass effect...
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 7, 2017 14:54:25 GMT
Ah yes the 16 free DLCs, where one DLC is composed of only a new outfit for your Geralt to wear! Such high quality! There were still gamebreaking bugs months after release. They only fixed the most obvious ones. They were nowhere near as crucified as BioWare was for them. Keep living in that reddit echo chamber. Look dude, we get it, you hate TW3 and spooge all over anything Mass Effect. To me it seems you're apart of the same gamer culture you talk shit about soooooooo much. It just applies to anything that isn't Mass effect... I don't hate TW3. Not at all. It is an excellent video game that fulfills its stated intentions exceptionally well. My problem with its CONSTANT comparison to the BioWare games is that both games set out with distinct goals. The Witcher was always about playing a fixed character but experiencing a story at large while shaping the setting with your own choices. Dragon Age/Mass Effect have always been about playing a character from different backgrounds and enlisting and interacting with a diverse set of companions in pursuit of a larger goal. In other words, TW is primarily about the setting with some allies in the mix. DA/ME have always been about the companions with the setting serving as a medium for those interactions. Two different goals. Two different setups. Different experiences.
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 7, 2017 14:57:39 GMT
The thing is even if the game is bad I cannot see people reaching the levels of negativity hurled towards BioWare with Andromeda. Too many people think CDPR is the great savior of video games when they seem to be an EA in the making. Now I know this doesn't represent everyone, but I was called a liar when I was saying that release day version of The Witcher 3 corrupted all my saves just like what people were reporting Andromeda. It bugs me that there doesn't seem to be room for acknowledging other people have a different viewpoint anymore. I can accept that people didn't like Andromeda, but it just seems that there aren't as many people willing to accept I had an enjoyable experience with the game for it isn't the best game I have played, but it is far from the worst. EA in the making? Why? They seem to be exactly the contrary. People like CDPR because they made one of the best game of all times and they listen to their fans. Yes, at release day The Witcher 3 had a lot of bugs, as it was expected, but the speed in which patches were released to correct them was incredible. In 2 weeks, most of the bugs were corrected. And funny thing, the company even made jokes about it in their DLCs, acknowledging the bugs. And while many companies like EA focus on Multiplayer, TW3 had no multiplayer nor microtransactions. On the contrary, it had 16 free DLCs. And it had only two (wonderful, by the way) payable DLCs, everything by a very affordable price (at least in Brazil). Plus, it has been two years since The Witcher 3, and they haven't even released footage of Cyberpunk, which means they aren't going to release it before they should, like EA does. It's fine if you had a nice experience with it, but you also have to accept that most people didn't, because the game is absolutely horrible (and you can still have a nice experience with a game even if it's bad). I'm not part of the "hate" group or "anti-SJW" group, because I really like Bioware and their games, and I may even be considered a "SJW", but Mass Effect: Andromeda is, sincerely, one of the worst games I played entirely. The "16 Free" DLC was a sham in my eyes, it was all basic content that if any other developer were to take that approach they would be ripped apart with comments of "that should have been in the base game. The final Free DLC was New Game+, that is something BioWare still gets crapped on for not including in Dragon Age. The EA in the making is going by the Glassdoor postings and CDPR's response to it combined with what other places have reported over the last couple of years from people who left CDPR. BioWare has done the exact same thing in the past about their products and what people don't like. In Mass Effect 3 talking to Conrad Vernor you would have a discussion about Thermal Clips and Heat Sinks with him or in the bay you will have Cortez and James talking about the differences with the Mako and Hammerhead. BioWare also had Project $10 for Mass Effect 2 so if you bought it new you got more content such as the Hammerhead and a few small missions for it and also included Zaeed, or with Dragon Age: Origins it included the entire Shale DLC. So what if they didn't have multiplayer in The Witcher 3, people wouldn't shut up about co-op in Mass Effect after the first two games, so they included something to try and give the experience people were asking for, but again because it is not what an individual wants it becomes a negative instead of giving others what they want. So they are hiding Cyberpunk 2077 and that is fine, but I remember all the news articles with Andromeda and the posts around here that EA was hiding Andromeda from people by not talking about it. So I guess EA hides their games in a negative way, but CPDR does it in a good way. Great Andromeda is the worst game you have ever played, doesn't mean it is mine. I am fine with that, I am just tired of being told I am wrong for not agree it is the worst game of all time because other declared it to be so.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 15:07:33 GMT
Look dude, we get it, you hate TW3 and spooge all over anything Mass Effect. To me it seems you're apart of the same gamer culture you talk shit about soooooooo much. It just applies to anything that isn't Mass effect... I don't hate TW3. Not at all. It is an excellent video game that fulfills its stated intentions exceptionally well. My problem with its CONSTANT comparison to the BioWare games is that both games set out with distinct goals.
The Witcher was always about playing a fixed character but experiencing a story at large while shaping the setting with your own choices. Dragon Age/Mass Effect have always been about playing a character from different backgrounds and enlisting and interacting with a diverse set of companions in pursuit of a larger goal. In other words, TW is primarily about the setting with some allies in the mix. DA/ME have always been about the companions with the setting serving as a medium for those interactions. Two different goals. Two different setups. Different experiences. There's nothing new about this though and comparisons between similar genre's has been around damn near since the dawn of gaming. The fact that any Mass Effect game is being compared to one of the highest rated rpg's around should be taken as a compliment. If it was being compared to something like The Technomancer in a negative light then people may want to complain. Even Bioware came out in support of TW3 and everything they were able to accomplish. When Dragon's Dogma came out they were hailing it as a mix of Skyrim, Dark Souls, Monster Hunter and Dragon Age. I loved the game even though it never really stacked to up those it was compared against. It was missing an element of each that kind of held it back. I can only hope that it improves for future installments if any.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 15:13:11 GMT
EA in the making? Why? They seem to be exactly the contrary. People like CDPR because they made one of the best game of all times and they listen to their fans. Yes, at release day The Witcher 3 had a lot of bugs, as it was expected, but the speed in which patches were released to correct them was incredible. In 2 weeks, most of the bugs were corrected. And funny thing, the company even made jokes about it in their DLCs, acknowledging the bugs. And while many companies like EA focus on Multiplayer, TW3 had no multiplayer nor microtransactions. On the contrary, it had 16 free DLCs. And it had only two (wonderful, by the way) payable DLCs, everything by a very affordable price (at least in Brazil). Plus, it has been two years since The Witcher 3, and they haven't even released footage of Cyberpunk, which means they aren't going to release it before they should, like EA does. It's fine if you had a nice experience with it, but you also have to accept that most people didn't, because the game is absolutely horrible (and you can still have a nice experience with a game even if it's bad). I'm not part of the "hate" group or "anti-SJW" group, because I really like Bioware and their games, and I may even be considered a "SJW", but Mass Effect: Andromeda is, sincerely, one of the worst games I played entirely. The "16 Free" DLC was a sham in my eyes, it was all basic content that if any other developer were to take that approach they would be ripped apart with comments of "that should have been in the base game. The final Free DLC was New Game+, that is something BioWare still gets crapped on for not including in Dragon Age. The EA in the making is going by the Glassdoor postings and CDPR's response to it combined with what other places have reported over the last couple of years from people who left CDPR. BioWare has done the exact same thing in the past about their products and what people don't like. In Mass Effect 3 talking to Conrad Vernor you would have a discussion about Thermal Clips and Heat Sinks with him or in the bay you will have Cortez and James talking about the differences with the Mako and Hammerhead. BioWare also had Project $10 for Mass Effect 2 so if you bought it new you got more content such as the Hammerhead and a few small missions for it and also included Zaeed, or with Dragon Age: Origins it included the entire Shale DLC. So what if they didn't have multiplayer in The Witcher 3, people wouldn't shut up about co-op in Mass Effect after the first two games, so they included something to try and give the experience people were asking for, but again because it is not what an individual wants it becomes a negative instead of giving others what they want. So they are hiding Cyberpunk 2077 and that is fine, but I remember all the news articles with Andromeda and the posts around here that EA was hiding Andromeda from people by not talking about it. So I guess EA hides their games in a negative way, but CPDR does it in a good way.Great Andromeda is the worst game you have ever played, doesn't mean it is mine. I am fine with that, I am just tired of being told I am wrong for not agree it is the worst game of all time because other declared it to be so. To be fair in this instance Bioware was hiding the fact that they weren't really getting anything done for more than half of the 5 year development cycle. So one would say Bioware/EA hid it in a negative way. I have no fight in this dispute. Only the bolded part.
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 7, 2017 15:23:30 GMT
The "16 Free" DLC was a sham in my eyes, it was all basic content that if any other developer were to take that approach they would be ripped apart with comments of "that should have been in the base game. The final Free DLC was New Game+, that is something BioWare still gets crapped on for not including in Dragon Age. The EA in the making is going by the Glassdoor postings and CDPR's response to it combined with what other places have reported over the last couple of years from people who left CDPR. BioWare has done the exact same thing in the past about their products and what people don't like. In Mass Effect 3 talking to Conrad Vernor you would have a discussion about Thermal Clips and Heat Sinks with him or in the bay you will have Cortez and James talking about the differences with the Mako and Hammerhead. BioWare also had Project $10 for Mass Effect 2 so if you bought it new you got more content such as the Hammerhead and a few small missions for it and also included Zaeed, or with Dragon Age: Origins it included the entire Shale DLC. So what if they didn't have multiplayer in The Witcher 3, people wouldn't shut up about co-op in Mass Effect after the first two games, so they included something to try and give the experience people were asking for, but again because it is not what an individual wants it becomes a negative instead of giving others what they want. So they are hiding Cyberpunk 2077 and that is fine, but I remember all the news articles with Andromeda and the posts around here that EA was hiding Andromeda from people by not talking about it. So I guess EA hides their games in a negative way, but CPDR does it in a good way.Great Andromeda is the worst game you have ever played, doesn't mean it is mine. I am fine with that, I am just tired of being told I am wrong for not agree it is the worst game of all time because other declared it to be so. To be fair in this instance Bioware was hiding the fact that they weren't really getting anything done for more than half of the 5 year development cycle. So one would say Bioware/EA hid it in a negative way. I have no fight in this dispute. Only the bolded part. Which is fair, but at the same time do we really know what CDPR is doing. I believe I read that they basically stopped all work for a couple of months while they upgraded the game engine during development and needed to go back and redo some elements that weren't flowing properly between the original engine and the updated engine. All we have is that one video released in January 2013 so in it only a couple of months away from five years in development and we still really don't know anything about the game or if they had similar development issues like BioWare did.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Nov 7, 2017 15:28:12 GMT
There's an amount of quality 150+ hours beyond that. It's no coincidence the game he was the least involved at the time of released was the one that got destroyed in every way, and every plan cancelled afterwards. I mean, come on. No, there's 150+ hours of quality that was destroyed by that. And actually it is. Andromeda's 5-year thumb twiddling development, several non-starters and final procrastination points to bad management more than anything. Dude may or may not be a good manager, but that still doesn't mean I'd ever trust him to write anything creatively, other than coffee orders. And even if a lack of creative vision is directly responsible for Andromeda and even if Hudson is an eagle eye in that department and has ideas out the butthole, it's still not worth it if those ideas turn out as poisoned as "artistic integrity". Not now, not ever. Never forget. "Lots of speculation for everyone" I mean, you're still that shook over the endings? Then no 150+ hours only to you then, I can have those.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 15:32:29 GMT
To be fair in this instance Bioware was hiding the fact that they weren't really getting anything done for more than half of the 5 year development cycle. So one would say Bioware/EA hid it in a negative way. I have no fight in this dispute. Only the bolded part. Which is fair, but at the same time do we really know what CDPR is doing. I believe I read that they basically stopped all work for a couple of months while they upgraded the game engine during development and needed to go back and redo some elements that weren't flowing properly between the original engine and the updated engine. All we have is that one video released in January 2013 so in it only a couple of months away from five years in development and we still really don't know anything about the game or if they had similar development issues like BioWare did. The only things we know so far are that it's based off of the original Cyberpunk 2020 and that it will have the same class system with a couple extra classes that that game didn't have and then of course the engine update. That's pretty much it.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 7, 2017 15:39:10 GMT
I mean, you're still that shook over the endings? Then no 150+ hours only to you then, I can have those. No one said I was shook. I said "never forget" not "never stop cutting yourself in the bathroom, crying". I got shit to do, other games to play. Even if I replay the trilogy, I'll just roll my eyes and cue up a Youtube video during those five minutes. None of that means Hudons or Walters gets a pass from me, or that I would trust or buy anything they're in charge of again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2017 16:11:22 GMT
If you wish to remain blissfully unaware of reality, then be my guest. Liked for the epic irony of this comment. Irony? This forum is verging on toxic... you disagree?
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 7, 2017 16:48:22 GMT
Ah yes the 16 free DLCs, where one DLC is composed of only a new outfit for your Geralt to wear! Such high quality! There were still gamebreaking bugs months after release. They only fixed the most obvious ones. They were nowhere near as crucified as BioWare was for them. Keep living in that reddit echo chamber. In retrospect, this was such a brilliant marketing move that I can hardly believe the entire industry hasn't adopted it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 7, 2017 17:45:41 GMT
Which is fair, but at the same time do we really know what CDPR is doing. I believe I read that they basically stopped all work for a couple of months while they upgraded the game engine during development and needed to go back and redo some elements that weren't flowing properly between the original engine and the updated engine. All we have is that one video released in January 2013 so in it only a couple of months away from five years in development and we still really don't know anything about the game or if they had similar development issues like BioWare did. The only things we know so far are that it's based off of the original Cyberpunk 2020 and that it will have the same class system with a couple extra classes that that game didn't have and then of course the engine update. That's pretty much it. Wait, what new classes were announced?
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Post by anarchy65 on Nov 7, 2017 17:46:14 GMT
Ah yes the 16 free DLCs, where one DLC is composed of only a new outfit for your Geralt to wear! Such high quality! There were still gamebreaking bugs months after release. They only fixed the most obvious ones. They were nowhere near as crucified as BioWare was for them. Keep living in that reddit echo chamber. What did you expect? Free expansions? At least they don't charge for new outfits like Bioware. Their paid DLCs were so good that they won "RPG of the year" award. A DLC WON RPG OF THE YEAR. And gamebreaking bugs are very rare in TW3. Most reported bugs are movement bugs (I've run into quite a few), which is expected in a huge open-world game. Skyrim also had A LOT of bugs, including gamebreaking ones. And you know why these both games weren't crucified as Bioware? BECAUSE THEY WERE GOOD GAMES. And they fixed their mistakes. If you can't see that, you're the one living in a chamber.
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