Bioware! Enough is enough.

To be honest, I know what is going on here and it all has to do what what happened to MEA and what could possibly happen to Anthem (and by extension, Bioware).

Regardless of that you think of MEA, it is clear that the internet backlash from the very beginning had a lot to do with the reception that MEA had. MEA essentially became a meme generator and ultimately it is possible that the lack of SP DLC and the lack of any true commitment to a MEA2 being announced is due to the internet backlash against MEA early on. Now that the internet backlash tsunami is focusing on SWBF2, a lot of Bioware fans about becoming anxious. Anthem is going to be a MP driven game and no doubt will have some sort of MT/lootbox system. Considering the national (and global) backlash against SWBF2 lootboxes, and given EA's drive to monetize games through MTs, a lot of Bioware fans are putting 2 and 2 together and seeing how this could be a problem for Anthem and Bioware as a whole.

This isn't about SWBF2 anymore as the damage has already been done to that game and this is definately not about MEA anymore. This is about Anthem and insuring that what happened with MEA and SWBF2 does not happen with Anthem. So to be proactive, a lot of Bioware fans are essentially defending EA/SWBF2 because they do not want what happened with previous games (SWBF2/MEA) to happen with Anthem. Thats what all of this is about. Of course you will deny it but that is what it is. Anthem will have MTs in some capacity....Anthem is a Bioware game....Bioware is tied to EA......EA is pushing for the MT forumula in their games......SWBF2 had these MTs and is being chastised for it.....Anthem could be chastised as well.....the "internet" took down MEA/SWBF2......and the "internet" could very well take down Anthem.....if Anthem fails......Bioware could be done for and DA4 in jeopardy. So from a hardcore Bioware fan/loyalist perspective, it is in the best interest that the industry/media/gamers just shuts the hell up about MTs and accept whatever EA gives us because EA is surely going to have MTs in Anthem.

number 2 makes it not pay to win. And it really does not matter what you buy. Its how you use it.

#1 is the one that would probably bug me the most, because at least when XP is involved, I feel a steady progression of my character so long as I complete objectives and increase my efficiency in wiping out enemies.

A game can technically allow you to earn loot boxes in-game while still being, "de facto" pay to win, if the rate at which you earn loot boxes is so slow that it effectively renders that avenue uncompetitive.

I don't understand the point that some posters are making with, "No. 2 makes it not pay to win." Yes, technically, that's true. But then again, you can also fit a 9-volt electric motor somewhere in a Diesel Semi and "technically" call it a hybrid.

If I'm missing something in the "Not pay to win" argument, I'd be genuinely curious to learn.

The essence is that even if you choose not to pay, you would still be at a disadvantage because the points you earn in game are so low, that the only logical way to keep up is to buy loot boxes.

In a PvP game like SWFB2, that creates problems and introduces Pay 2 Win scenarios.

To be honest, I know what is going on here and it all has to do what what happened to MEA and what could possibly happen to Anthem (and by extension, Bioware).

Regardless of that you think of MEA, it is clear that the internet backlash from the very beginning had a lot to do with the reception that MEA had. MEA essentially became a meme generator and ultimately it is possible that the lack of SP DLC and the lack of any true commitment to a MEA2 being announced is due to the internet backlash against MEA early on. Now that the internet backlash tsunami is focusing on SWBF2, a lot of Bioware fans about becoming anxious. Anthem is going to be a MP driven game and no doubt will have some sort of MT/lootbox system. Considering the national (and global) backlash against SWBF2 lootboxes, and given EA's drive to monetize games through MTs, a lot of Bioware fans are putting 2 and 2 together and seeing how this could be a problem for Anthem and Bioware as a whole.

This isn't about SWBF2 anymore as the damage has already been done to that game and this is definately not about MEA anymore. This is about Anthem and insuring that what happened with MEA and SWBF2 does not happen with Anthem. So to be proactive, a lot of Bioware fans are essentially defending EA/SWBF2 because they do not want what happened with previous games (SWBF2/MEA) to happen with Anthem. Thats what all of this is about. Of course you will deny it but that is what it is. Anthem will have MTs in some capacity....Anthem is a Bioware game....Bioware is tied to EA......EA is pushing for the MT forumula in their games......SWBF2 had these MTs and is being chastised for it.....Anthem could be chastised as well.....the "internet" took down MEA/SWBF2......and the "internet" could very well take down Anthem.....if Anthem fails......Bioware could be done for and DA4 in jeopardy. So from a hardcore Bioware fan/loyalist perspective, it is in the best interest that the industry/media/gamers just shuts the hell up about MTs and accept whatever EA gives us because EA is surely going to have MTs in Anthem.

I'm not playing MP either. But the whole system is starting to get out of control. There are several companies trying to sneak microtransactions into SP. I forgot which company it was that got a lot of flak for doing it quite recently, but one can argue that Bethesda is attempting it too with their creation club model, which is nothing but paid mods. They already tried it in 2006 with Oblivion and failed. Now it's their second try on doing it. Hopefully another unsuccessful attempt, but one can never know with all the restrictions on console modding. They might just get their bucks from there. If it succeeds, it's sure bet that their next game will be rigged in favor to support that model instead of the free modding community they were famous for.

Give it up, its a lost cause....

I know I'm supposed to feel bad about this stuff. I'm just trying to find out why.