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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Feb 1, 2018 23:42:23 GMT
Is this unrealistic? How about this? Doesn't she remind you of a female HS or college athlete?
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Post by rras1994 on Feb 1, 2018 23:46:12 GMT
Pfft, you've clearly never had your hair pulled - or heard the horror stories your technology teacher told you about the girl who got her hair stuck in the polishing machine and had her scalp taken off. Combine that with the number of burns I got from helping someone solder and it's no wonder I dropped the subject.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 2, 2018 0:11:08 GMT
jesus what is with you and these bait-y posts about how feminine women are or aren't
The answer is: yeah, long hair can be an inconvenience in battle for men and women. It's easy to grab, you risk getting scalped, it can obstruct your vision. It's not a great idea to have it flowing all willy-nilly in the thick of battle. I don't know how the dwarves have survived as long as they have with huge beards that are easy to grab, that are veritable soup-catchers for stray darkspawn blood.
But more importantly, when you're sweaty and covered in gore and have a helmet on your head, you have bigger things on your mind than whether your ~~voluminous locks~~ are sufficiently feminine. You either put it in a tight bun or braid to get it out of the way or you cut it off.
Now, since we've had about eight billion threads about women's hair and how terrible it is when it's short, let's talk about men's hair. Would long or short hair be an inconvenience in battle? Do men who get buzzcuts never stop to think about how lumpy their skulls are? Why do none of these men think about all the boners they could be giving people if they had super long hair??
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Post by rras1994 on Feb 2, 2018 0:17:35 GMT
jesus what is with you and these bait-y posts about how feminine women are or aren't The answer is: yeah, long hair can be an inconvenience in battle for men and women. It's easy to grab, you risk getting scalped, it can obstruct your vision. It's not a great idea to have it flowing all willy-nilly in the thick of battle. I don't know how the dwarves have survived as long as they have with huge beards that are easy to grab, that are veritable soup-catchers for stray darkspawn blood.But more importantly, when you're sweaty and covered in gore and have a helmet on your head, you have bigger things on your mind than whether your ~~voluminous locks~~ are sufficiently feminine. You either put it in a tight bun or braid to get it out of the way or you cut it off. Now, since we've had about eight billion threads about women's hair and how terrible it is when it's short, let's talk about men's hair. Would long or short hair be an inconvenience in battle? Do men who get buzzcuts never stop to think about how lumpy their skulls are? Why do none of these men think about all the boners they could be giving people if they had super long hair?? That's what those dwarves are thinking about with the dangerously long beards - with their low birth rate cus of the darkspawn, they have to take dangerous risks to attract the lady dorfs, and we all know they like them some beards PS: I'm totally treating these threads as troll threads so expect alot of flu-fueled nonsense from me
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 2, 2018 0:21:26 GMT
Why do none of these men think about all the boners they could be giving people if they had super long hair?? Oh, I'm sure that, say, Zevran is thinking quite precisely of such things. As for hair in general, I don't tend to think about it too much in terms of length, for either gender, but if anything, when playing a character with a combat-focused background, I will avoid long bangs. Sort've a "how can they fight if there's hair in their eyes?" thing.
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Post by rahavan on Feb 2, 2018 0:23:30 GMT
As some with with very long hair I can tell you unless it's tied up its in the way. For fuck sakes when I was 13 and it was windy and I was in the middle of talking to someone and the wind swept up my hair into my mouth. I then proceeded to choke. Luckily its pretty easy to fix that in a mild conversation. So you can see there might be some issues.
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Post by rras1994 on Feb 2, 2018 0:25:15 GMT
As some with with very long hair I can tell you unless it's tied up its in the way. For fuck sakes when I was 13 and it was windy and I was in the middle of talking to someone and the wind swept up my hair into my mouth. I then proceeded to choke. Luckily its pretty easy to fix that in a mild conversation. So you can see there might be some issues. This is the reason that Pocahontas scene is total bulls**t. Wind is the long haired's enemy, not their friend.
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Post by copper on Feb 2, 2018 0:37:28 GMT
jesus what is with you and these bait-y posts about how feminine women are or aren't The answer is: yeah, long hair can be an inconvenience in battle for men and women. It's easy to grab, you risk getting scalped, it can obstruct your vision. It's not a great idea to have it flowing all willy-nilly in the thick of battle. I don't know how the dwarves have survived as long as they have with huge beards that are easy to grab, that are veritable soup-catchers for stray darkspawn blood.But more importantly, when you're sweaty and covered in gore and have a helmet on your head, you have bigger things on your mind than whether your ~~voluminous locks~~ are sufficiently feminine. You either put it in a tight bun or braid to get it out of the way or you cut it off. Now, since we've had about eight billion threads about women's hair and how terrible it is when it's short, let's talk about men's hair. Would long or short hair be an inconvenience in battle? Do men who get buzzcuts never stop to think about how lumpy their skulls are? Why do none of these men think about all the boners they could be giving people if they had super long hair?? That's what those dwarves are thinking about with the dangerously long beards - with their low birth rate cus of the darkspawn, they have to take dangerous risks to attract the lady dorfs, and we all know they like them some beards PS: I'm totally treating these threads as troll threads so expect alot of flu-fueled nonsense from me That actually makes sense. Consider peacocks. Their tail feathers get dangerously long and puts them more at risk of being grabbed by a predator before they can fly away. But because it attracts those peahens, totally worth it lol. Translates pretty well into dwarf culture. Especially if they also put pretty braids and beads in their beards.
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Post by shechinah on Feb 2, 2018 0:40:39 GMT
That's what those dwarves are thinking about with the dangerously long beards - with their low birth rate cus of the darkspawn, they have to take dangerous risks to attract the lady dorfs, and we all know they like them some beards That actually makes sense. Consider peacocks. Their tail feathers get dangerously long and puts them more at risk of being grabbed by a predator before they can fly away. But because it attracts those peahens, totally worth it lol. Translates pretty well into dwarf culture. Especially if they also put pretty braids and beads in their beards. If you can survive a battle with a beard like that you've proven yourself a warrior
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Post by rras1994 on Feb 2, 2018 0:47:52 GMT
That's what those dwarves are thinking about with the dangerously long beards - with their low birth rate cus of the darkspawn, they have to take dangerous risks to attract the lady dorfs, and we all know they like them some beards PS: I'm totally treating these threads as troll threads so expect alot of flu-fueled nonsense from me That actually makes sense. Consider peacocks. Their tail feathers get dangerously long and puts them more at risk of being grabbed by a predator before they can fly away. But because it attracts those peahens, totally worth it lol. Translates pretty well into dwarf culture. Especially if they also put pretty braids and beads in their beards. Well, the pretty braids and beads are a given. Grooming is very important
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 2, 2018 1:02:45 GMT
Why do none of these men think about all the boners they could be giving people if they had super long hair?? Oh, I'm sure that, say, Zevran is thinking quite precisely of such things. As for hair in general, I don't tend to think about it too much in terms of length, for either gender, but if anything, when playing a character with a combat-focused background, I will avoid long bangs. Sort've a "how can they fight if there's hair in their eyes?" thing. Oh yeah, even Alistair thinks Zev's hair is "a little much" - because it brushes his shoulders and... has a braid in it? Ofc Zevran is naturally radiant and looks great no matter what. 😎 As some with with very long hair I can tell you unless it's tied up its in the way. For fuck sakes when I was 13 and it was windy and I was in the middle of talking to someone and the wind swept up my hair into my mouth. I then proceeded to choke. Luckily its pretty easy to fix that in a mild conversation. So you can see there might be some issues. Oh god yes, I had hair down to my ass in high school and I had to brush it every time the bell rang because that shit got tangled walking to and from class. That's what those dwarves are thinking about with the dangerously long beards - with their low birth rate cus of the darkspawn, they have to take dangerous risks to attract the lady dorfs, and we all know they like them some beards PS: I'm totally treating these threads as troll threads so expect alot of flu-fueled nonsense from me That actually makes sense. Consider peacocks. Their tail feathers get dangerously long and puts them more at risk of being grabbed by a predator before they can fly away. But because it attracts those peahens, totally worth it lol. Translates pretty well into dwarf culture. Especially if they also put pretty braids and beads in their beards. Love it. "Oooh, he's so manly and virile that he's not even worried about some genlock yanking his beard!" 😍
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Post by Sah291 on Feb 2, 2018 1:03:53 GMT
I don't really care if long hair is realistic or practical or not, I just like it as part of the fantasy aesthetic...on both male and female characters. I mean, with the exception of something like urban fantasy, where you are deliberately going for realism on purpose.
I don't think that's why we don't have long hair in Dragon Age though. I think it's because devs refuse to spend time on it if it's going to clip. I've tried plenty of mods in DAI to get long hair, and a lot of them do look weird in certain scenes, since they don't move. Modders are generally willing to put up with a little clipping here or there, but the devs aren't going to. Its easier to just have a bunch of short styles that don't clip and work with all armor.
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 2, 2018 1:04:55 GMT
It wasn't a problem for the Vikings, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, or hundreds of other examples throughout history.
People who say long hair is not practical in battle have no understanding of history and culture.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 2, 2018 1:08:17 GMT
Hey, all I said was that it can be an inconvenience and that most front line fighters have other things to worry about.
I'm all for long hair. I just hate that discussion about long hair is always tied to how women, specifically, need to have long hair or they are teh uggo.
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Post by Gilli on Feb 2, 2018 1:08:36 GMT
As many already have said, long hair is in the way and can easily be grabbed by the enemy to hold you down. So you cut it off!
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 2, 2018 1:10:49 GMT
Hey, all I said was that it can be an inconvenience and that most front line fighters have other things to worry about. I'm all for long hair. I just hate that discussion about long hair is always tied to how women, specifically, need to have long hair or they are teh uggo. It's hardwired into us based on thousands of years of tradition. It's science.
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Post by river82 on Feb 2, 2018 1:11:52 GMT
Now, since we've had about eight billion threads about women's hair and how terrible it is when it's short, let's talk about men's hair. Would long or short hair be an inconvenience in battle? Do men who get buzzcuts never stop to think about how lumpy their skulls are? Why do none of these men think about all the boners they could be giving people if they had super long hair?? Prince William's buzzcut is because he is going bald. And that's the modern style for men - apparently half bald is ugly or makes you look older so balding men are increasingly likely to just shave the whole thing off. And because men are going bald younger ... So the whole bald buzzcut thing isn't just because of practicality. Better a lumpy skull then a mocked "combover" or something similar
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 2, 2018 1:13:40 GMT
Hey, all I said was that it can be an inconvenience and that most front line fighters have other things to worry about. I'm all for long hair. I just hate that discussion about long hair is always tied to how women, specifically, need to have long hair or they are teh uggo. It's hardwired into us based on thousands of years of tradition. It's science. Lmao. Evolutionary psychology pseudoscience, maybe. You think straight women don't like to see ~the physical manifestation of youth and health~ (aka long flowing hair) in men?
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 2, 2018 1:14:42 GMT
Now, since we've had about eight billion threads about women's hair and how terrible it is when it's short, let's talk about men's hair. Would long or short hair be an inconvenience in battle? Do men who get buzzcuts never stop to think about how lumpy their skulls are? Why do none of these men think about all the boners they could be giving people if they had super long hair?? Prince William's buzzcut is because he is going bald. And that's the modern style for men - apparently half bald is ugly or makes you look older so balding men are increasingly likely to just shave the whole thing off. And because men are going bald younger ... So the whole bald buzzcut thing isn't just because of practicality. Better a lumpy skull then a mocked "combover" or something similar I don't actually have an opinion on buzzcuts. I was just making a point about picking on totally arbitrary hairstyle choices.
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Post by river82 on Feb 2, 2018 1:20:18 GMT
Prince William's buzzcut is because he is going bald. And that's the modern style for men - apparently half bald is ugly or makes you look older so balding men are increasingly likely to just shave the whole thing off. And because men are going bald younger ... So the whole bald buzzcut thing isn't just because of practicality. Better a lumpy skull then a mocked "combover" or something similar I don't actually have an opinion on buzzcuts. I was just making a point about picking on totally arbitrary hairstyle choices. I know. I'm just pointing out it's actually fashion advice for men to chop their hair short when it starts to recede and go bald once it hits the crown[1]. The long flowing locks is nice, and women might like to see it, but most men go bald so unless a person wears a wig like Andre Agassi, then it's not really an option for most men [1] www.dmarge.com/2015/05/how-to-wear-hair-loss.html
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 2, 2018 1:27:26 GMT
jesus what is with you and these bait-y posts about how feminine women are or aren't OP's next thread: Would having a ****VAGINA**** be an INCONVENIENCE in BATTLE?!?!?!?! CLICK HERE TO TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK!!!! Well judging by the answers given in this thread. Having a penis dangling down there would just give the enemy something to grab on to....
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Feb 2, 2018 1:27:45 GMT
It wasn't a problem for the Vikings, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, or hundreds of other examples throughout history. People who say long hair is not practical in battle have no understanding of history and culture. Just because some people did something in the past does not mean it was good or unproblematic. The samurai used makeup that contained so much lead that it resulted in people getting severe debilitating health problems, the Aborigines have a ritual where they cut the penis in a way that often leads to dysfunctional genitalia, including resulting in men having to pee sitting in many cases. Lotus feet, lip plates, neck rings, huge piercings, labia mutilations, head wrappings for elongated heads and the list goes on. None of that shit is practical or good for you under any circumstances, let alone combat. Hair is just one more thing your enemy can grab to control you and move you around so they can kill you faster and easier. If you have long hair and think its no biggie in combat, do the self experiment and let a 200lbs man grab and pull it as hard as he can. Report back and tell us how that affected your fighting abilities.
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Post by naughtynomad on Feb 2, 2018 1:34:49 GMT
It wasn't a problem for the Vikings, Japanese, Chinese, Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, or hundreds of other examples throughout history. People who say long hair is not practical in battle have no understanding of history and culture. Just because some people did something in the past does not mean it was good or unproblematic. The samurai used makeup that contained so much lead that it resulted in people getting severe debilitating health problems, the Aborigines have a ritual where they cut the penis in a way that often leads to dysfunctional genitalia, including resulting in men having to pee sitting in many cases. Lotus feet, lip plates, neck rings, huge piercings, labia mutilations, head wrappings for elongated heads and the list goes on. None of that shit is practical or good for you under any circumstances, let alone combat. The point is that practicality clearly wasn't a huge problem for people fighting in wars throughout history. If you're going to argue for practicality's sake, you have to ignore history. This is why I always chuckle at the threads complaining about boob plates, long hair on women (not long beards/hair on men), or going into battle scantily clad... It just shows those people have no knowledge of what ancient warfare was actually like...
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Feb 2, 2018 1:42:56 GMT
Just because some people did something in the past does not mean it was good or unproblematic. The samurai used makeup that contained so much lead that it resulted in people getting severe debilitating health problems, the Aborigines have a ritual where they cut the penis in a way that often leads to dysfunctional genitalia, including resulting in men having to pee sitting in many cases. Lotus feet, lip plates, neck rings, huge piercings, labia mutilations, head wrappings for elongated heads and the list goes on. None of that shit is practical or good for you under any circumstances, let alone combat. The point is that practicality clearly wasn't a huge problem for people fighting in wars throughout history. If you're going to argue for practicality's sake, you have to ignore history. This is why I always chuckle at the threads complaining about boob plates, long hair on women (not long beards/hair on men), or going into battle scantily clad... It just shows those people have no knowledge of what ancient warfare was actually like... Well, at least with the equipment practicality was a big deal in ancient warfare, if you look at medieval weapons there was a lot of thought put into the design of weapons, 600 years later we still learn something new about those seemingly simple weapons, and their complex uses and techniques. Heck, when the first space suit was designed they actually took a medieval plate armor set to help improve the ability to move in the suit. Most people back then were extremely serious with the practicality of their weapons, their armor and their fighting skills. I am pretty sure that the Celts who often fought naked were slaughtered by the dozens by heavily armored Romans who were all about practicality. Nothing on the Roman soldier was a liability, it all was very practical, the entire legion was one practical no-BS machine and thats one big reason why they fucked up everyone else so hard.
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Post by river82 on Feb 2, 2018 1:49:13 GMT
If you're going to argue for practicality's sake, you have to ignore history. This is why I always chuckle at the threads complaining about boob plates,Well, at least with the equipment practicality was a big deal in ancient warfare, Plate armour makes you safe, boob plate compromises that safety. So it goes against the purpose of plate armour. Why make armour only to incorporate facets that go against the purpose of that armour? :S That being said you could argue it could be made for ceremonial purposes, but it would never be used on the battlefield. Even by those who embrace impracticality.
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