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Post by rras1994 on Mar 4, 2018 16:52:06 GMT
You can send your advisors to collect supplies but any game with a crafting system needs you to collect supplies, that stuffs generally just used to craft armour and potions and stuff like that, you could do requisitions but you really don't need to at all. DAI is an RPG, I'm not sure how else it would put a crafting system in? I loved DA2 crafting and gathering system... that was the best! It's been a while since I played that game (and I have a tendency to ignore crafting in general, though I'm slowly getting better), how was the crafting in it?
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Post by Catilina on Mar 4, 2018 16:54:49 GMT
I loved DA2 crafting and gathering system... that was the best! It's been a while since I played that game (and I have a tendency to ignore crafting in general, though I'm slowly getting better), how was the crafting in it? Hawke bought his/her wears, weapons and potions (or... cut out of the dragon's stomach, as a hero usually...). S/He was a fighter, not a craftsman. Perfect.
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Post by rras1994 on Mar 4, 2018 16:58:11 GMT
It's been a while since I played that game (and I have a tendency to ignore crafting in general, though I'm slowly getting better), how was the crafting in it? Hawke bought his/her wears, weapons and potions. S/He was a fighter, not a craftsman. You can do that in DAI, apart from the potions. Though I'll admit I've always found it odd in RPGs that the hero can some how be able to make complex armour and potions and other items as well as being this great fighter, it's never worked that well for me story wise. Which is really why I've never dived that deep into it in any of the BioWare games, but a lot of people seem to love it so
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 4, 2018 16:59:44 GMT
Oh... not heard that before. I was quite happy to see Hawke in DAi (though the character creator did little for them.) Think of some of Hawke's lines, then imagine you played a blood mage, and then see how absolutely ridiculous it was to hear him/her rail against blood magic. I didn't even play a blood mage and I thought it was annoying. It's about having your character be fully controlled by the game and the writers, and not by yourself. As much as I want to see my Inquisitor again for DA4, this is my main concern. Yeah. This is why I want the Inquisitor as a controllable protagonist. If they aren’t, I don’t even want them in the game at all. Bioware has a penchant for ruining previous protagonists and I don’t want the Inquisitor suffering the same fate.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 4, 2018 17:02:13 GMT
Think of some of Hawke's lines, then imagine you played a blood mage, and then see how absolutely ridiculous it was to hear him/her rail against blood magic. I didn't even play a blood mage and I thought it was annoying. It's about having your character be fully controlled by the game and the writers, and not by yourself. As much as I want to see my Inquisitor again for DA4, this is my main concern. Yeah. This is why I want the Inquisitor as a controllable protagonist. If they aren’t, I don’t even want them in the game at all. Bioware has a penchant for ruining previous protagonists and I don’t want the Inquisitor suffering the same fate. I'd rather the Inquisitor be gone entirely. Again, look at what happened to Shepard across the trilogy.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 4, 2018 17:07:05 GMT
Think of some of Hawke's lines, then imagine you played a blood mage, and then see how absolutely ridiculous it was to hear him/her rail against blood magic. I didn't even play a blood mage and I thought it was annoying. It's about having your character be fully controlled by the game and the writers, and not by yourself. As much as I want to see my Inquisitor again for DA4, this is my main concern. Yeah. This is why I want the Inquisitor as a controllable protagonist. If they aren’t, I don’t even want them in the game at all. Bioware has a penchant for ruining previous protagonists and I don’t want the Inquisitor suffering the same fate. Yes. If the Inquisitor will back, I'm sure s/he will be a mediocre, boring nobody, without any personality. The Inquisitor was the most colourless protagonist, but I wouldn't be surprised if even those few colours would fade in DA4, what s/he ever had before. Anyway, I don't really want the Inquisitor back. (But I'm curious, what's the Dorian-mancer Inquisitor end with Dorian... but I'm not sure, I would happy with the outcome...)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 4, 2018 17:09:15 GMT
Yeah. This is why I want the Inquisitor as a controllable protagonist. If they aren’t, I don’t even want them in the game at all. Bioware has a penchant for ruining previous protagonists and I don’t want the Inquisitor suffering the same fate. Yes. If the Inquisitor will back, I'm sure s/he will be a mediocre, boring nobody, without any personality. The Inquisitor was the most colourless protagonist, but I wouldn't be surprised if even those few colours would fade in DA4, what s/he ever had before. I disagree entirely with your description of the Inquisitor. They are without a doubt my favorite Bioware protagonist. But yeah, who knows what things Bioware would do to ruin them as a NPC.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 4, 2018 17:11:43 GMT
Yeah. This is why I want the Inquisitor as a controllable protagonist. If they aren’t, I don’t even want them in the game at all. Bioware has a penchant for ruining previous protagonists and I don’t want the Inquisitor suffering the same fate. I'd rather the Inquisitor be gone entirely. Again, look at what happened to Shepard across the trilogy. I don’t. As I’ve said, they are my favorite protagonist but besides that if they aren’t the protagonist then all the potential with the Solas storyline is gone. With a new person, he is just another Corypheus.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 4, 2018 17:13:06 GMT
Collecting weeds and pebbles is not... and this just as shit and collecting shards. Really? When in the game does it force the player to collect weeds?
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 4, 2018 17:18:32 GMT
Think of some of Hawke's lines, then imagine you played a blood mage, and then see how absolutely ridiculous it was to hear him/her rail against blood magic. I didn't even play a blood mage and I thought it was annoying. It's about having your character be fully controlled by the game and the writers, and not by yourself. As much as I want to see my Inquisitor again for DA4, this is my main concern. Understood. I played Hawke as a generally good egg so no issue. A potential problem though for any NPC that used to be a player-character. It was nice to see Hawke again though...
I'd rather the Inquisitor be gone entirely. Again, look at what happened to Shepard across the trilogy. I would expect the Inquisitor to reappear, a bit like a Luke Skywalker, I imagine...
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Post by Catilina on Mar 4, 2018 17:19:43 GMT
Collecting weeds and pebbles is not... and this just as shit and collecting shards. Really? When in the game does it force the player to collect weeds? True, doesn't need to use potions or specialize...
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Post by phoray on Mar 4, 2018 17:21:26 GMT
I played Hawke as a generally good egg so no issue But that's a weird idea to me, because I have a Blood Mage Warden, and she is not a bad egg. But even if you play a non blood mage Hawke, you could have romanced Merril or just been fine with her actions as a friend. I "fix" the whole DAI Hawke Blood magic issue by just framing it as being against blood magic that sacrifices people, which is the only kind of blood magic Hawke is interacting with come DAI.
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Post by warden on Mar 4, 2018 17:25:59 GMT
the thing with the crafting system is it's very mmo-ish oriented and if you never enjoyed playing an actual mmorpg then it will become a huge burden.
but the true problem amusingly is that an actual official mmorpg crafting system like for example Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn or Guild Wars 2 are ways more fun than this pseudo mmo-ish crafting system.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 4, 2018 17:35:00 GMT
the thing with the crafting system is it's very mmo-ish oriented and if you never enjoyed playing an actual mmorpg then it will become a huge burden. but the true problem amusingly is that an actual official mmorpg crafting system like for example Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn or Guild Wars 2 are ways more fun than this pseudo mmo-ish crafting system. I actually liked to play MMOs, for example, the WoW, but I was the laziest player. pvp-ed and raided for my gear and weapons, rather would gather anything... My characters never had golds, reputations with the cityes, anything but good gear from raids and pvp (only one-two crafted things). People have many mandatory things in the real life (learn, lesson, homework, later: work...), I don't want to see these in-game.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 4, 2018 17:53:36 GMT
Think of some of Hawke's lines, then imagine you played a blood mage, and then see how absolutely ridiculous it was to hear him/her rail against blood magic. I didn't even play a blood mage and I thought it was annoying. It's about having your character be fully controlled by the game and the writers, and not by yourself. As much as I want to see my Inquisitor again for DA4, this is my main concern. Understood. I played Hawke as a generally good egg so no issue. A potential problem though for any NPC that used to be a player-character. It was nice to see Hawke again though...
I'd rather the Inquisitor be gone entirely. Again, look at what happened to Shepard across the trilogy. I would expect the Inquisitor to reappear, a bit like a Luke Skywalker, I imagine... That REALLY doesn't help the argument for returning player characters...
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Post by themikefest on Mar 4, 2018 18:05:33 GMT
The Inquisitor will make an appearance. Hopefully as the main character. If not, possibly in some kind of an advisor's position helping the new main character.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 4, 2018 18:13:11 GMT
Think of some of Hawke's lines, then imagine you played a blood mage, and then see how absolutely ridiculous it was to hear him/her rail against blood magic. I didn't even play a blood mage and I thought it was annoying. It's about having your character be fully controlled by the game and the writers, and not by yourself. As much as I want to see my Inquisitor again for DA4, this is my main concern. Understood. I played Hawke as a generally good egg so no issue. A potential problem though for any NPC that used to be a player-character. It was nice to see Hawke again though...
I'd rather the Inquisitor be gone entirely. Again, look at what happened to Shepard across the trilogy. I would expect the Inquisitor to reappear, a bit like a Luke Skywalker, I imagine... You can be a good egg and still have the Hawke in DAI be completely out of character. That's what happened to mine. If by a bit like Luke, you mean coming back with a prosthetic hand, then yes please.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 4, 2018 18:15:07 GMT
Ranking how I want the Inquisitor to return: 1. As the protagonist 2. As a protagonist(if they do a dual protagonist thing) 3. Not at all 4. Vague references by characters who know them. 5. As a NPC.
Of those, I'd only be happy with 1 or 2 but wil take 3 over 4 or 5 which I do not want at all.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 4, 2018 18:20:33 GMT
If the inquisitor returns i want to be able to kill that imbecile.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Mar 4, 2018 21:39:57 GMT
People vastly overestimate how much is actually carried over into each game... The point is to maintain consistency, not to make each game a direct sequel of the one before.
They also overestimate how much of the total writing budget is attributed to those "100 hours" compared to those "50". In fact a lot of those extra "50" are just used on combat, moving around, and general side quests with very little writing to add small tidbits to the lore and some immersion in the story controlled by the player, like a human choosing/denying an elf's request to visit a grave being indicative of their character.
The current system is fine. DAI in particular had excellent branching within the main story.
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Mar 4, 2018 22:01:07 GMT
I "fix" the whole DAI Hawke Blood magic issue by just framing it as being against blood magic that sacrifices people, which is the only kind of blood magic Hawke is interacting with come DAI. That, and not wanting to go up to the police and say "Having an unlicensed Rocket Propelled Satan Grenade worked great for me and my wife!"
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Mar 4, 2018 22:12:35 GMT
I "fix" the whole DAI Hawke Blood magic issue by just framing it as being against blood magic that sacrifices people, which is the only kind of blood magic Hawke is interacting with come DAI. That, and not wanting to go up to the police and say "Having an unlicensed Rocket Propelled Satan Grenade worked great for me and my wife!" Hilariously, the Hawke of mine who ended up 100% in character was the blood mage. She was forever shaking her fist and yelling 'CURSE THOSE BLOOD MAGES!!!' in front of Templars, then running around the corner to do some blood magic with Merrill.
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Post by Lazarillo on Mar 5, 2018 3:32:57 GMT
If the Inquisitor will back, I'm sure s/he will be a mediocre, boring nobody, without any personality. Soooo...exactly like s/he was portrayed in DA3, then?
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Post by TheodoricFriede on Mar 5, 2018 5:50:31 GMT
I want a new character. I have no connection to the Inquisitor.
Also they are missing a damned arm. As far as I'm concerned, they're retired.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Mar 5, 2018 6:23:52 GMT
I for one would love to play as the Inquisitor back with a fancy new prosthetic arm. Dagna or Bianca could definitely cook up something fun for any class.
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