How would you Write the Kett out of the series?

If you mean from orbit.  There is no specific atmospheric composition given that I can find.  Atmospheric pressure is 23 atmospheres (fluctuating); Avg. Surface Temp is 17C (fluctuatiing).  On atmospheric composition though, only the following general statement is made "Even visual scans show that Habitat 7 is no longer a promising settlement world.  The planet's atmosphere is largely argon-nitrogen and little of the projected plant life has survived."

I would say that "largely" implies that there are also other gases in the atmosphere, one of which is no doubt O2, just not in enough quantity to meet "minimum requirements."  Some plant life has survived in a cave that was open to the atmosphere but sheltered from the lightning and the tower.  Probably the O2 levels in the atmosphere would increase as the amount of plant life increases on the planet (as the AI continues to terraform it).

I can see them doing something with Alec and this something may have to do with the Kett --- but any potential setup for him being specifically abducted by them, is silly. Now, a coverup where he's actually alive but with reasons to not reveal himself? IDK, at least that's barely fitting.


But personally I see the story, if anything, spending a game dealing with Ellen instead. After/by the end of that, I dunno, maybe Alec reveal or whatever.

Sorry, I didn't read all the posts, so someone may have already posted this. But I would write the Kett out like this:

Unknown to the players the Kett need to have treatments to stay as Kett. Without the treatments they could revert back to their original species. That would allow the new game to have more/new species in the game as well as taking care of the Kett.

In ME2, they managed to teleport the bodies of the fallen on the Collector Base to the ME2 to fill those coffins, unless they're purely ceremonial... I'm sure that same magical teleportation technology could come with them to Andromeda.

In all seriousness though, I thought it was pretty clear what killed him. Ryder damn near died and she was only exposed for less than a minute.

At least the player see/s a coffin/s that represent each character that was killed. Andromeda doesn't offer that for Ryder's father.
So why would Carlyle say what he did and Ryder not push him to reveal what the real cause was?

I actually thought the coffins bit was kind of stupid. Sure, it may be representative of the characters that died, but if they died, those coffins would be empty anyway, since there would've been no way to retrieve them from the base after the escape. The bright side is I can just avoid that whole thing, unlike the companions (that weren't with Shepard at the beam run) that suddenly decide to flee the planet for some reason at the end of ME3.

I mean, who really knows why. The writers probably thought it was obvious enough from the actual scene that it wouldn't have mattered whether or not Carlyle went on about inert gas asphyxiation.

What Ryder says and what happens after he/she passes out are two different things. Why I ask is because they could have left him there knowing that anytime that is lost might lead to little Ryder dying

Edit: I'll add that besides Ryder, Kosta knew of Kirkland's location. Would he have mentioned to pick up his body? Later in the game the player learns he can't be trusted after what he did. Another reason why I'm curious if his body was recovered.

I don't believe he's alive nor do I believe the kett have Alec's body. Its too bad that there wasn't an option for the player to choose for Ryder to ask to see his/her fathers body. If not the body, at least the casket that contains Alec's body.

By writting ME:A out of the series.

There don't seem to be very many kett anyway. It's not like we'd get a bunch of new civilizations even if it did work that way.

Source please.  The only other instance of the game speaking with an AI that had undergone a transfer was with the Turian AI that was severed from Macen Barrows by Macen's death before the transfer to Avitus could be completed.  In that instance, that SAM was seriously traumatized and could barely speak.  We can assume then that the transfer from Alec to young Ryder was complete before Alec could have possibly died.  Also, Avitus thought he knew whether or not Macen was alive (using his implant, without having full access to Macen's SAM), but Avitus was obviously wrong about that since Macen was indeed dead.  Vederia's SAM doesn't know where Sarissa is, although I can't exactly remember whether Vederia indicates a sense of whether Sarissa is alive or dead at that point.  There is, of course, no reason to suspect Sarissa would be dead anyways.  Finally, Ryder's SAM is more advanced and therefore, different than the other SAM's; and it is clear that Alec was able to block off portions of SAM's "memory"... not unconceivable then that SAM's memory of what exactly happened to Alec was either impaired by the trauma of the transfer (and Young Ryder being dead for 22 seconds... if it's something that SAM did not instigate or control) or as a result of Alec blocking that portion of SAM's memory in addition to the family memories he blocked.

The whole point, though, of my previous post was that there are actually plot holes (unanswerable questions) no matter whichever way people want to go with this.  No suggestion is any "sillier" than any other really... because it's all speculation.  If or when Bioware writes something more definitive, we'll know only then.

Bottom-line on the major question here - I see no reason to write either the kett or Andromeda out of the IP.  The story can be more easily written forward using the journey to Andromeda to advance the timeline 600 or more years.


There are questions left regardless of whichever way one goes on this.  That's the purpose of my post... one  assumption with open questions is no "sillier" than the other.

My point is you're going off of MEA environment alone while I'm going with the concept of future games happening which do whatever with anything.

Ok, here's a brief whatever example: Alec wanders off, assuming he'll die, but instead something-Remnant occurs to him, and he's not taken by the Kett, but in fact is mentally affected (say through similar tech that we may find out affects Angara) to follow the cause of the Jaardan. Or whatever. Not saying this is a good example. Just something off the top of my head that would get him jetting off through the time of MEA. Give me some weeks to write the fanfiction (just kidding, I said I won't be).

I don't remember if SAM says Alec is dead, but I don't care much - AI can and do lie, so all that's needed is a newly revealed reason for SAM to lie. 'Like a hero' was just a soft let down to Ryder, and Ryder decides not to follow the issue further due to a mix of grief and detachment (the whole criticized 'close but not too close' neutral-ish Ryder status towards father).


Its all contrived and if there was a reveal in MEA DLC I think it'd suck, and I even think that if it revealed in a Montreal MEA2 it'd still probably suck. But I was not going about the quality of the possibility, only the potential based off the lack of more concrete content in MEA itself. *Mostly* concrete and *highly* suggested, sure, but not entirely.


Anyway I think the kett thing could happen to. Just also, it doesn't make so much sense within MEA. It'd also need another game of contriving something making some sense.