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Post by midnight tea on Mar 15, 2019 20:28:40 GMT
 well, im sorry to hear that I'm not sure if I made myself clear. Anthem's loading screens are far worse than ESO's. They really are not.
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Post by officerdonnz on Mar 15, 2019 20:30:37 GMT
I'm not sure if I made myself clear. Anthem's loading screens are far worse than ESO's. They really are not. They seem that way to me.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Mar 15, 2019 20:32:27 GMT
 well, im sorry to hear that I'm not sure if I made myself clear. Anthem's loading screens are far worse than ESO's. Yup, i got that. My sympathies and all
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 15, 2019 20:42:09 GMT
They seem that way to me. I don't know how much it subjectively *seems* without knowing how it's affected by your hardware specs. With both games being on same hard drive on my comp, it takes a comparable time to load into places, with ESO taking its sweet time recently to load when I log in and out of characters at times. Also - what I mentioned before about loading screen issues they've had for *months* before they fixed them.
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Post by Psychedelic on Mar 17, 2019 3:10:46 GMT
Now it has happened, I got kicked from a group for the first time and I really don't know why. I know I'm not the greatest DPS and my current char is a bit underperforming, so I queued with CP700+ for a random normal to practise a bit. Darkshade I, nice and easy. The rest of the group was under lvl 50, I think, which in itself shouldn't be much of a problem. I did 40-60% of the group's damage, not great for that level, but kick me for that? There weren't even any problems as far as I can tell. Perhaps because they were running like mad and I had trouble to keep up, but to go on with 3 or to find a replacement would have taken even longer and I wasn't even that much behind. Then right in the middle they vote to kick me. No communication whatsoever, which in other cases would be fine with me, as long as everything is going well. Maybe I did something wrong and didn't notice, and then maybe some people are just weird. On a related note, I once had a player in a vet dungeon, pug again, which I joined (on another char) as replacement for one of the two mysteriously absent DDs. Turned out they kept kicking the other DD and then 2 or 3 of the following replacements, without explanation. When I asked I got: "It's a DW StamBlade", "not enough health", "not enough stamina"... I honestly wonder why I wasn't kicked as well, though they did complain about my low DPS. The only reason I agreed to kick in the vote was because every time I declined, they immediately started another vote, and at some point I just gave up and wanted to be done with it, preferably without queuing for another 40 min.
Not sure what people think they get in a pug. Sometimes expectations just don't align with reality and I don't think it's the reality's fault.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Mar 17, 2019 3:29:06 GMT
Now it has happened, I got kicked from a group for the first time and I really don't know why. I know I'm not the greatest DPS and my current char is a bit underperforming, so I queued with CP700+ for a random normal to practise a bit. Darkshade I, nice and easy. The rest of the group was under lvl 50, I think, which in itself shouldn't be much of a problem. I did 40-60% of the group's damage, not great for that level, but kick me for that? There weren't even any problems as far as I can tell. Perhaps because they were running like mad and I had trouble to keep up, but to go on with 3 or to find a replacement would have taken even longer and I wasn't even that much behind. Then right in the middle they vote to kick me. No communication whatsoever, which in other cases would be fine with me, as long as everything is going well. Maybe I did something wrong and didn't notice, and then maybe some people are just weird. On a related note, I once had a player in a vet dungeon, pug again, which I joined (on another char) as replacement for one of the two mysteriously absent DDs. Turned out they kept kicking the other DD and then 2 or 3 of the following replacements, without explanation. When I asked I got: "It's a DW StamBlade", "not enough health", "not enough stamina"... I honestly wonder why I wasn't kicked as well, though they did complain about my low DPS. The only reason I agreed to kick in the vote was because every time I declined, they immediately started another vote, and at some point I just gave up and wanted to be done with it, preferably without queuing for another 40 min.
Not sure what people think they get in a pug. Sometimes expectations just don't align with reality and I don't think it's the reality's fault.
I've observed so much drama from pugs in zone chat yelling and calling each other out, which makes me never want to pug again. I joined a couple of normal pug groups in the past without ever having a problem but I also hated having to rush after everyone and I'd probably end up feeling bad if I got kicked from a group. I really don't get why if everything is going well in a random normal dungeon why people just can't have fun? Vet is one thing but normal? hell I solo normal all of the time. I feel your pain. I would really like to practice my own dps, do you know how to acquire a dummy? Someone told me to look for someone selling them but I've never seen that, then someone mentioned they sell them for crowns but I've never seen that either. :/
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Post by MPApr2012 on Mar 17, 2019 8:08:36 GMT
there are some basic dummies you can buy with crowns. just go to any of your houses, open housing editor, browse, then switch to the purchase tab on top. alternatively you can buy schematics for some writ vouchers at the mediators' alas them crafting costs can be a tad on the ouchie side.
as for the rest, well... 'member them pugs will be pugs. not much you can do about. so don't let them get under your skin or ruin your fun. just go on about it merrily blacklisting/ignoring at will and with a light heart
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Post by Psychedelic on Mar 17, 2019 14:59:02 GMT
I've observed so much drama from pugs in zone chat yelling and calling each other out, which makes me never want to pug again. I joined a couple of normal pug groups in the past without ever having a problem but I also hated having to rush after everyone and I'd probably end up feeling bad if I got kicked from a group. I really don't get why if everything is going well in a random normal dungeon why people just can't have fun? Vet is one thing but normal? hell I solo normal all of the time. I feel your pain. I would really like to practice my own dps, do you know how to acquire a dummy? Someone told me to look for someone selling them but I've never seen that, then someone mentioned they sell them for crowns but I've never seen that either. :/ There is one you can get for free if you own Clockwork City, but is has only low HP (which doesn't bother me personally, because I don't hit that hard anyway  ). It's also a bit lenghty to acquire all the body parts for the quest, though they appear in dungeons even if you don't have CWC, so you can finish the quest during a free trial, that's how I got mine. Here is a guide where to find them all and what to do with them.
I don't find target dummies all that useful, though. My main problem is that I loose track of all the things that happen in a normal fight with several enemies. Mobs, boss, adds, your own group... the latter is sometimes the worst of the problems to keep an eye on. That's why I pug; you can train under realistic conditions, bit with some sort of anonymity, because you might remember the idiot that didn't perform well, but likely not the name. At least I don't, but I don't blacklist or anything, not worth the effort.
I knew before I started pugging that there could be a lot of drama involved, so I don't take it too personal. The thing is, I'm 90% sure I didn't do anything wrong, and then there are the 10% that bug me. They could at least have said something.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 17, 2019 16:38:32 GMT
If you want to buy dummies with gold you can just visit Tamriel Trade Centre - pick server/console you play on and pick, say, 'target skeleton, humanoid' and you should see a guild trader it is available on (availability depending on whether somebody bought it, but store uploads usually refresh frequently) I can craft a normal and robust humanoid, but I'd need mats for that (namely animus stones, the rest I have in abundance). Also, if you're not in endgame/trading guild with a guild hall where there's usually a dummy and don't mind having me on your friends list (PC, NA server) I can give you permissions to visit my primary house where there's at least one normal dummy. I don't find target dummies all that useful, though. My main problem is that I loose track of all the things that happen in a normal fight with several enemies. Mobs, boss, adds, your own group... the latter is sometimes the worst of the problems to keep an eye on. That's why I pug; you can train under realistic conditions, bit with some sort of anonymity, because you might remember the idiot that didn't perform well, but likely not the name. At least I don't, but I don't blacklist or anything, not worth the effort. I knew before I started pugging that there could be a lot of drama involved, so I don't take it too personal. The thing is, I'm 90% sure I didn't do anything wrong, and then there are the 10% that bug me. They could at least have said something. Well if you want to belong to any half-decent guild and have any sort of substantial rank as a DPS, you still have to present your target dummy parse. Target dummy practice may be artificial, but removing all the noise and movement lets you acquire familiarity and muscle memory to perfect your rotation, which is very useful in otherwise hectic dungeons and trials. It will let you find your own rhythm or familiarize yourself with set procs or ability weave. Do you know how to light attack weave or animation cancel between abilities, for example? If not, best get that dummy. Also, I'll be real here - PUGs, especially in normal dungeons, really won't prepare you for the jump in difficulty for vet dungeons and even less so for content harder than vanilla vet runs (main boss hard modes, especially in DLC dungeons, are nothing to sneer at). They can give you a foothold in familiarizing yourself with fights, but even then vet versions are usually way harder, as normal dungeons don't have as many mechanics or they do much less damage/won't one-shot you if you mess them up. I, for example, can solo most normal dungeons myself (save those that have mechanics that prevent it). I don't need people to run with me - if I join normal PUGs it's usually so people have an opportunity to finish the content alongside me as I bolt forward and kill almost everything while doing 90% of group's damage and usually healing and tanking on top of that. What are you going to learn from that? My advice? Join a decent endgame guild. That's the best way to teach yourself running the group content. Guildies are usually more patient and willing to share knowledge or teach you mechanics or discuss things with you via chat or Discord channel. If you're serious about regularly running group content I can get you into two good guilds I'm a raider in that are owned by people I'm friends with. No guarantee that you're going to shoot through ranks or breeze through hardest content after you join, but so long as you engage with guildies it'll definitely give you a better shot at it than PUGging.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 17, 2019 17:04:25 GMT
Also, I'm on a shameless shopping spree today.
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Post by officerdonnz on Mar 17, 2019 18:32:00 GMT
Now it has happened, I got kicked from a group for the first time and I really don't know why. I know I'm not the greatest DPS and my current char is a bit underperforming, so I queued with CP700+ for a random normal to practise a bit. Darkshade I, nice and easy. The rest of the group was under lvl 50, I think, which in itself shouldn't be much of a problem. I did 40-60% of the group's damage, not great for that level, but kick me for that? There weren't even any problems as far as I can tell. Perhaps because they were running like mad and I had trouble to keep up, but to go on with 3 or to find a replacement would have taken even longer and I wasn't even that much behind. Then right in the middle they vote to kick me. No communication whatsoever, which in other cases would be fine with me, as long as everything is going well. Maybe I did something wrong and didn't notice, and then maybe some people are just weird. On a related note, I once had a player in a vet dungeon, pug again, which I joined (on another char) as replacement for one of the two mysteriously absent DDs. Turned out they kept kicking the other DD and then 2 or 3 of the following replacements, without explanation. When I asked I got: "It's a DW StamBlade", "not enough health", "not enough stamina"... I honestly wonder why I wasn't kicked as well, though they did complain about my low DPS. The only reason I agreed to kick in the vote was because every time I declined, they immediately started another vote, and at some point I just gave up and wanted to be done with it, preferably without queuing for another 40 min.
Not sure what people think they get in a pug. Sometimes expectations just don't align with reality and I don't think it's the reality's fault.
And this right here is why I never group, and never join a guild. I can do without that kind of shit. So what if I don't do the group content? That's up to me and it does nothing for me at all. Same with PvP.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 17, 2019 20:46:07 GMT
And this right here is why I never group, and never join a guild. I can do without that kind of shit. So what if I don't do the group content? That's up to me and it does nothing for me at all. Same with PvP. That's your prerogative. But there are people here that like to play in group or want to complete that group content for achievements/rewards. And, just like in case of Anthem, I don't see reasons why we BSNers can't support ourselves in these goals 
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Post by officerdonnz on Mar 17, 2019 20:50:23 GMT
And this right here is why I never group, and never join a guild. I can do without that kind of shit. So what if I don't do the group content? That's up to me and it does nothing for me at all. Same with PvP. That's your prerogative. But there are people here that like to play in group or want to complete that group content for achievements/rewards. And, just like in case of Anthem, I don't see reasons why BSNers can't support ourselves in these goals  I know there are and if that's what they like I have no problem with that  I guess I'm just too set in my ways from playing SP RPG's. I like doing things at my own pace, and playing in a group is kind of counter to that more often than not. This is one dog who's getting a bit old to learn new tricks
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 17, 2019 21:03:18 GMT
That's your prerogative. But there are people here that like to play in group or want to complete that group content for achievements/rewards. And, just like in case of Anthem, I don't see reasons why BSNers can't support ourselves in these goals  I know there are and if that's what they like I have no problem with that  I guess I'm just too set in my ways from playing SP RPG's. I like doing things at my own pace, and playing in a group is kind of counter to that more often than not. This is one dog who's getting a bit old to learn new tricks Well, it's fortunate that there isn't necessarily a lot of overlap between a lot of SP content and group content in ESO  Buuuuuut... if somebody plays PC NA and wants to experience story in dungeons or public dungeons (or get skill points from quest completion) and needs a carry/somebody patiently waiting at the side as they talk with NPCs and so on, it can be arranged  Can't guarantee I can do it all, as there are some places with tricky mechanics requiring group cooperation, but those aren't that frequent, at least not in non-DLC dungeons. Also - if someone's not playing on PC NA or prefers to keep interactions with me limited to this forum I recommend joining an RP guild or casual play guilds. Easier to find story-oriented group content runs there.
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Post by MPApr2012 on Mar 17, 2019 21:22:09 GMT
And this right here is why I never group, and never join a guild. I can do without that kind of shit. So what if I don't do the group content? That's up to me and it does nothing for me at all. Same with PvP. eso indeed has plenty to offer to all sorts of players, play the way you like. don't let the bad stuff you hear deter you from (re)trying new things though. yep there are bad pugs, but there are good ones too and generally you can tell pretty quick, without having to invest much of your time (the only real commodity worth thinking of, that and the fun you get) whether it's worth staying. the same really goes for pvp, indeed it can be quite frustrating at times regardless whether you queue up solo or as a group, but can be also quite fun and satisfying at others. youmeet new folks some end up on your friendlists, or not. and generally people tend to get hot and bothered when things get, or are made, or perceived should we say... competitive but there's still plenty of folks who care as much for the fun of it all. oh, and there's all sorts of guilds too btw... there are highly competitive pvp/endgame/trading/etc guilds that are very clear about that and require their members meet and maintain expectaions or else... but there are plenty of relaxed, casual and social guilds. there's crafting, fishing, home decoration, roleplay of all the different kinds and all. sometimes some drama may unfurl somewhere and that's okay too because you still have a choice what to do about it when it happens.
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Post by Psychedelic on Mar 19, 2019 3:05:31 GMT
Well if you want to belong to any half-decent guild and have any sort of substantial rank as a DPS, you still have to present your target dummy parse. Target dummy practice may be artificial, but removing all the noise and movement lets you acquire familiarity and muscle memory to perfect your rotation, which is very useful in otherwise hectic dungeons and trials. It will let you find your own rhythm or familiarize yourself with set procs or ability weave. Do you know how to light attack weave or animation cancel between abilities, for example? If not, best get that dummy. Also, I'll be real here - PUGs, especially in normal dungeons, really won't prepare you for the jump in difficulty for vet dungeons and even less so for content harder than vanilla vet runs (main boss hard modes, especially in DLC dungeons, are nothing to sneer at). They can give you a foothold in familiarizing yourself with fights, but even then vet versions are usually way harder, as normal dungeons don't have as many mechanics or they do much less damage/won't one-shot you if you mess them up. I, for example, can solo most normal dungeons myself (save those that have mechanics that prevent it). I don't need people to run with me - if I join normal PUGs it's usually so people have an opportunity to finish the content alongside me as I bolt forward and kill almost everything while doing 90% of group's damage and usually healing and tanking on top of that. What are you going to learn from that? My advice? Join a decent endgame guild. That's the best way to teach yourself running the group content. Guildies are usually more patient and willing to share knowledge or teach you mechanics or discuss things with you via chat or Discord channel. If you're serious about regularly running group content I can get you into two good guilds I'm a raider in that are owned by people I'm friends with. No guarantee that you're going to shoot through ranks or breeze through hardest content after you join, but so long as you engage with guildies it'll definitely give you a better shot at it than PUGging. Nah, I have zero ambition, I just play for fun, so an endgame-oriented guild with ranks and requirements would be the last thing I'd join. The only reasons I poked my head in vet dungeons at all is because I'm curious and I like collecting achievements (as long as no actual work is involved). Basegame vet dungeons I manage just fine, the DLC dungeons I don't own and I have no intention to buy them, not my thing.
And this right here is why I never group, and never join a guild. I can do without that kind of shit. So what if I don't do the group content? That's up to me and it does nothing for me at all. Same with PvP. I had the same mindset when I started playing, but joining a trade guild made the game much easier for me. Doesn't even require much social interaction and you can sell for much higher prices than to NPC merchants. Made it to multimillionaire in a few weeks  . (yes, yes, I know, many players are probably billionaires or whatnot, but still, money is no longer an issue)
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Post by officerdonnz on Mar 19, 2019 3:21:18 GMT
I wouldn't even know how to join a specific type of guild even if I wanted to....
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Post by MPApr2012 on Mar 19, 2019 3:45:19 GMT
I wouldn't even know how to join a specific type of guild even if I wanted to.... Ah, it's easy as. Just keep accepting all the spam invites and keep recycling until you get to the one you like stayin in just in case it has to be said that's a joke So if that doesn't sound appealing much then your friends and acquaintances may have some receommendations. Keep a half eye on your zone chat for recruitment ads/drives. Oh, and the esol forums also have a guild recruitment section. Once something tickles your interest or curiosity all you need is an invite from a member/recruitment officer of a sufficient rank. you can be a member of up to 5 player guilds at a time so you can mix and mingle to your liking aand if something doesn't work somewhere along the way, you can leave any time too
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 19, 2019 4:00:04 GMT
I wouldn't even know how to join a specific type of guild even if I wanted to.... They are going to add Guild Finder in June's big Elsweyr-related patch. Not sure about the details yet. As for now - you need to be sent an invite by GM or people with permission to invite (you can join up to 5 guilds). So you have to either know someone, read their advert post on forum and send them an in-game PM or whisper to them when they advertise their guild in zones. If you'd like to join a trading guild you have the best chance to do that around popular spot/town in each zone. Fair warning - the bigger the guild/hotter the trading hub location the closer to 500 member cap those guilds are and the more demanding requirements to retain membership. My Wayrest-located trading guild requires either 50k sales or 20k deposit each week to guild bank - and most of that raised money goes to hiring a trading spot. Like... there's milllllions of in-game gold and sometimes a Game Of Thrones level of political maneuvering going on each week to hog these spaces - big trading in ESO is SRS BSNS, no joke Fortunately there are a lot more smaller traders with less stringent requirements - maybe activity each week or regularly updating your list of things to sell and so on, if even that. If you'd be interested in giving it a try I'd recommend travelling to moderate or smaller trading hubs and waiting for them to start advertising themselves in zone chat. A whisper with a message that you'd like to join should land you an invite in your notifications.
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Post by officerdonnz on Mar 19, 2019 4:36:28 GMT
I wouldn't even know how to join a specific type of guild even if I wanted to.... They are going to add Guild Finder in June's big Elsweyr-related patch. Not sure about the details yet. As for now - you need to be sent an invite by GM or people with permission to invite (you can join up to 5 guilds). So you have to either know someone, read their advert post on forum and send them an in-game PM or whisper to them when they advertise their guild in zones. If you'd like to join a trading guild you have the best chance to do that around popular spot/town in each zone. Fair warning - the bigger the guild/hotter the trading hub location the closer to 500 member cap those guilds are and the more demanding requirements to retain membership. My Wayrest-located trading guild requires either 50k sales or 20k deposit each week to guild bank - and most of that raised money goes to hiring a trading spot. Like... there's milllllions of in-game gold and sometimes a Game Of Thrones level of political maneuvering going on each week to hog these spaces - big trading in ESO is SRS BSNS, no joke Fortunately there are a lot more smaller traders with less stringent requirements - maybe activity each week or regularly updating your list of things to sell and so on, if even that. If you'd be interested in giving it a try I'd recommend travelling to moderate or smaller trading hubs and waiting for them to start advertising themselves in zone chat. A whisper with a message that you'd like to join should land you an invite in your notifications. Yikes, that sounds way too much hard work. I can go weeks, sometimes months and not play. I'm what some would call a filthy casual  I've only been logging in to get the daily rewards and haven't been doing much else for the past month or so. My TOR sub I let lapse a while ago yet somewhat ironically I'm a member of two guilds there
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 19, 2019 4:40:34 GMT
Yikes, that sounds way too much hard work. I can go weeks, sometimes months and not play. I'm what some would call a filthy casual  I've only been logging in to get the daily rewards and haven't been doing much else for the past month or so. My TOR sub I let lapse a while ago yet somewhat ironically I'm a member of two guilds there In case I have weeks when I don't do much aside from dailies I make so much money from daily crafting writs (done on most of my toons) alone I can afford the weekly fee or rake in money just from selling accumulated mats in the guild 
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Post by river82 on Mar 21, 2019 4:20:47 GMT
I'm now getting a solid 80-100 FPS everywhere with settings on high instead of 9-40FPS in cities with settings on low-medium. Beautiful  . It's even more beautiful that my monitor is only 60Hz BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER  lol Still 300-400 latency though, but there is a noticeable improvement with the connection to their server than last week. It might have been the patch but I'm not spiking to 700+ every few minutes. This is nice 
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 21, 2019 4:40:58 GMT
I'm now getting a solid 80-100 FPS everywhere with settings on high instead of 9-40FPS in cities with settings on low-medium. Beautiful  . It's even more beautiful that my monitor is only 60Hz BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER  lol Still 300-400 latency though, but there is a noticeable improvement with the connection to their server than last week. It might have been the patch but I'm not spiking to 700+ every few minutes. This is nice  Yea, I was 200-240 ping last few weeks and I noticed it coming back to around 170-200 in last few days. They must be tweaking something in the background.
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Post by river82 on Mar 21, 2019 6:40:47 GMT
The amount of money I'm spending on my computer because I love this game has increased to well over a thousand (Aud) I may as well include a solid state drive too. Some games seem to require that sort of thing now and ESO also has quite a few loading screens xD I highly recommend SSDs - I use a few HDDs for some file storage, but other than that I've swapped drives I use for work and gaming (and OS) to SSDs. Once you get used back to SSD speed, you're just not going to look back. Optimally, I'd recommend investing in something of decent quality. My personal go to for discs is Western Digital - I use their Blue SSD for storing my games. Crucial and Samsung SSDs are good as well. You were right, got a Crucial 500Gb SSD and holy crap it's night and day 0.0. Everything runs so much better! And now I'm going to have to get another 1TB one at some point because this is good stuff 
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 21, 2019 20:34:16 GMT
I highly recommend SSDs - I use a few HDDs for some file storage, but other than that I've swapped drives I use for work and gaming (and OS) to SSDs. Once you get used back to SSD speed, you're just not going to look back. Optimally, I'd recommend investing in something of decent quality. My personal go to for discs is Western Digital - I use their Blue SSD for storing my games. Crucial and Samsung SSDs are good as well. You were right, got a Crucial 500Gb SSD and holy crap it's night and day 0.0. Everything runs so much better! And now I'm going to have to get another 1TB one at some point because this is good stuff   I've had a 120 GB Crucial serving as my OS SSD for many years and now it's serving as my graphics software disc, so good stuff indeed - may yours serve you reliably for years to come 
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