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Post by Liepsnele on Nov 18, 2024 18:35:05 GMT
Jokes aside, I am really surprised it's not even nominated on the RPG category Veilguard is 7/10 in my book so far, I don't think that's GOTY material. You're right though, not getting nominated for RPG of the year is really weird.
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Post by phoray on Nov 18, 2024 18:37:59 GMT
Yesterday I learned that the Lord's Of Fortune not only aren't morally questionable pirates or even regular treasure hunters trying to get rich. Oh no no, I learned that they are heroes who retrieve objects of cultural significance from the evil Antaam and others and return them to their rightful owner..... How much more simplistic black and white ridiculous can you get? DAV writers: yes. Led by a woman who stole cultural relics not only once, but twice. Unapologetically.
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Post by andorvex on Nov 18, 2024 18:38:50 GMT
I really don't know much about this competition, but I assume hype is very important in determining which game is nominated.
Then again, I'm not sure how much hype DATV generated outside of the DA fandom
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Post by phoray on Nov 18, 2024 18:40:05 GMT
Small trivial observation but have you noticed how often if a companion wants to look assertive and sassy, they stand with one hand on hip? At least the female ones do. Not sure about the guys. May need more research on that. Mind you, the guys aren't terribly assertive so perhaps that accounts for it. I'm fairly certain there was more variation in the past but perhaps I'm the one misremembering it. It also now seems Morrigan's default stance. The only variation is to swap from one hip to the other. Please tell me I'm not imagining this is something new to her character. You're not imagining it. It's especially bad with Morrigan and Isabella which makes me feel like they're trying to sexually objectify them.
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Post by emissaryoflies on Nov 18, 2024 18:50:42 GMT
Didn’t know I was surrounded by so many bigots who HATE our differently abled friends.
In all seriousness it’s a good nomination. They should have the ability to shit on the game just as hard as anyone else.
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Post by phoray on Nov 18, 2024 18:51:31 GMT
I checked, and the Veilguard is nominated in the Game Awards actually. The category is "Innovation in Accessibility" I shit you not So, people with physical disabilities shouldn't be able to play video games is that what you're complaining about? Oh my gosh guys, that's not what they meant. They meant, "This game is so awful, all it could qualify for is 'innovation in accessibility'". I don't watch the game awards, I didn't even know that was an award that could be given, but to read adnorvex's comment as shade against the disabled when this is the "shit on Dragon age" thread is just so out of touch with the entire thread.
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Post by andorvex on Nov 18, 2024 18:54:01 GMT
I'm still waiting for games to stop exclude epileptic people. Admittedly my epilepsy is not so bad as long as I take my medication
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Post by phoray on Nov 18, 2024 18:54:41 GMT
a culture that has A) darker skinned people and is run by women. You'd think they'd be all over that. I'm honestly surprised they didn't jump at the chance to demonstrate how a society run by women is superior. I'm confused. I thought the LoF were a bunch of randos and their current hub is run by Isabella, not that it is matriarchal?
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Post by phoray on Nov 18, 2024 18:56:48 GMT
I'm still waiting for games to stop exclude epileptic people. Admittedly my epilepsy is not so bad as long as I take my medication I so wanted to turn off nearly all effects. At least I got rid of the numbers. I was sick and tired of even the final move animation by the end, but it would fly me across the screen sometimes and felt faster? also me dum dum, see I shoudl press R, so I press R. And sometimes the companions are just standing there next to them, "rook, I set them up for you!" and I look across the map and I'm like... just fucking kill them already I'd have to leave what I'm doing right now to do that?
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Post by andorvex on Nov 18, 2024 18:58:58 GMT
I'm still waiting for games to stop exclude epileptic people. Admittedly my epilepsy is not so bad as long as I take my medication I so wanted to turn off nearly all effects. At least I got rid of the numbers. I was sick and tired of even the final move animation by the end, but it would fly me across the screen sometimes and felt faster? also me dum dum, see I shoudl press R, so I press R. And sometimes the companions are just standing there next to them, "rook, I set them up for you!" and I look across the map and I'm like... just fucking kill them already I'd have to leave what I'm doing right now to do that? I didn't have a seizure for several years but when I first saw the "high level" gameplay trailer I half expected to get one with all the colorful shit on screen. Happy to report it's not enough to induce one for me, just annoying af
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 18, 2024 19:00:00 GMT
a culture that has A) darker skinned people and is run by women. You'd think they'd be all over that. I'm honestly surprised they didn't jump at the chance to demonstrate how a society run by women is superior. I'm confused. I thought the LoF were a bunch of randos and their current hub is run by Isabella, not that it is matriarchal? I meant Rivaini culture. You get only snippets about it through Taash's quest and the codex.
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Nov 18, 2024 19:00:22 GMT
I'm still waiting for games to stop exclude epileptic people. Admittedly my epilepsy is not so bad as long as I take my medication as an autistic person irl, I'm just thinking about how they'd even include people with my syndrome in a medieval setting. i guess id accept a quirky mage fellow who liked to read books and was a bit weird though; because honestly I think that's so cute for me to think about, lmao.
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Post by andorvex on Nov 18, 2024 19:01:42 GMT
Both the lords of fortune and the veil jumpers illustrate the huge lore problem of this game. It legit feels like some 14 year old who played 200 hours of inquisition wrote this.
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Post by phoray on Nov 18, 2024 19:03:13 GMT
I'm still waiting for games to stop exclude epileptic people. Admittedly my epilepsy is not so bad as long as I take my medication as an autistic person irl, I'm just thinking about how they'd even include people with my syndrome in a medieval setting. i guess id accept a quirky mage fellow who liked to read books and was a bit weird though; because honestly I think that's so cute for me to think about, lmao. I read somewhere that Bellara was meant to be ADHD flagged and ADHD people were actually offended by that. I didn't get any ADHD vibes from her at all, so it was confusing to read.
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Post by andorvex on Nov 18, 2024 19:06:34 GMT
I'm still waiting for games to stop exclude epileptic people. Admittedly my epilepsy is not so bad as long as I take my medication as an autistic person irl, I'm just thinking about how they'd even include people with my syndrome in a medieval setting. i guess id accept a quirky mage fellow who liked to read books and was a bit weird though; because honestly I think that's so cute for me to think about, lmao. I don't think there is anything inherently impossible about doing something like that, it's all a matter of a competent writer
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Post by jadedragon on Nov 18, 2024 19:06:53 GMT
a culture that has A) darker skinned people and is run by women. You'd think they'd be all over that. I'm honestly surprised they didn't jump at the chance to demonstrate how a society run by women is superior. I'm confused. I thought the LoF were a bunch of randos and their current hub is run by Isabella, not that it is matriarchal? Rivani society is but of course when a game tries to appeases no fans over old long term fans and don't bother to actually go into the lore and culture of the game, players who are new to the series wouldn't know such things unless the game does a good job at providing lore which this does not. The Mother of Thedas is Rivani, Rivani was the official official kickoff of the Mage-Templar war having the first circle annulled, and it's a society that has a unique connection with magic and spirituality with their Seers that makes the culture just as magically distinct like Tevinter and Nevarra. It has Dalish Settlements and Qun Settlements. It's probably the most cultural melting pot in Thedas but this game is void of actual Thedas culture it's poorly translated
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Nov 18, 2024 19:07:50 GMT
as an autistic person irl, I'm just thinking about how they'd even include people with my syndrome in a medieval setting. i guess id accept a quirky mage fellow who liked to read books and was a bit weird though; because honestly I think that's so cute for me to think about, lmao. I read somewhere that Bellara was meant to be ADHD flagged and ADHD people were actually offended by that. I didn't get any ADHD vibes from her at all, so it was confusing to read. Im surprised that there's not more characters with ADHD in media because there's more people with ADHD than autism and it's symptoms are far more noteable than autism is - at least in my case anyways lol. I have both ADHD and autism.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 18, 2024 19:08:48 GMT
I so wanted to turn off nearly all effects. At least I got rid of the numbers. I was sick and tired of even the final move animation by the end, but it would fly me across the screen sometimes and felt faster? also me dum dum, see I shoudl press R, so I press R. And sometimes the companions are just standing there next to them, "rook, I set them up for you!" and I look across the map and I'm like... just fucking kill them already I'd have to leave what I'm doing right now to do that? I didn't have a seizure for several years but when I first saw the "high level" gameplay trailer I half expected to get one with all the colorful shit on screen. Happy to report it's not enough to induce one for me, just annoying af Oh good, been wondering how often those colors and special effects cause seizures. Weird they didn't have a tone down that shit toggle. Even I would make use of it. DAI was already style over substance for me, just and endless bombardment of effects while all I did for the entire game was spam 3 spells, so boring. Just because it looks impressive doesn't mean it's actually fun. At least I am having way more fun with the combat in DAV. But yeah, I'm always watching in disbelief how my companions cannot manage to kill off that one enemy with like 1% health that then proceeds to almost kill me from aceoss the map even though both of them were trying to poke it to death. Hilarious. They are completely useless unless you use them for combos. Mass Effect wasn't like that. In fact you could just sit behind a crate and wait for your team to kill stuff for you if you wanted. They also used their powers on their own. I have to unlock that in the skill tree here...
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Post by wright1978 on Nov 18, 2024 19:09:07 GMT
Yesterday I learned that the Lord's Of Fortune not only aren't morally questionable pirates or even regular treasure hunters trying to get rich. Oh no no, I learned that they are heroes who retrieve objects of cultural significance from the evil Antaam and others and return them to their rightful owner..... How much more simplistic black and white ridiculous can you get? DAV writers: yes. Maybe I’ll head canon that it’s in reality a massive pyramid scheme Issy and Hawke are running. Hawke turns up a variety of cunning scooby doo disguises to fool her idiot minions, retrieves the lost items and then fleeces them on the black market. like cmon this is a woman who left some pirates stuck as statues for eternity so she could keep a nice dagger
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Nov 18, 2024 19:10:33 GMT
as an autistic person irl, I'm just thinking about how they'd even include people with my syndrome in a medieval setting. i guess id accept a quirky mage fellow who liked to read books and was a bit weird though; because honestly I think that's so cute for me to think about, lmao. I don't think there is anything inherently impossible about doing something like that, it's all a matter of a competent writer was thinking what would be relatable to me would be a former circle mage dude crying about how he misses his daily schedule and the break from the chantry ruined that lol.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 18, 2024 19:24:04 GMT
I read somewhere that Bellara was meant to be ADHD flagged and ADHD people were actually offended by that. I didn't get any ADHD vibes from her at all, so it was confusing to read. Im surprised that there's not more characters with ADHD in media because there's more people with ADHD than autism and it's symptoms are far more noteable than autism is - at least in my case anyways lol. I have both ADHD and autism. Off topic but doesn't ADHD often get overlooked, especially in women because it manifest differently? Whenever I describe some of my issues online to somebody's ADHD post I relate to I'm told I probably have inattentive ADHD too but all tests I've ever taken are firmly negative and no therapist, nor the neurologist has ever suggested it. So I'm really confused. Doesn't really matter if I have that or something else, don't think there's a fix. How is Bellara misrepresenting ADHD? I'm curious. I know Elper has ADHD and Bellara might be yet another self insert. So how would he misrepresent his own condition? She does tick the hyperactive, scatterbrained doesn't stop talking bit I associate with it. So does that mean a lot of people who have ADHD don't act so stereotypical?
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Post by LoonySpectre on Nov 18, 2024 19:28:28 GMT
As a person with sort of "high-functioning ADHD", the most relatable DA character for me would be an Inquisitor who goes like, "OK, I spent hours discussing our next mission. What do you mean by 'I now have to actually do the mission?'"
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Nov 18, 2024 19:29:26 GMT
Im surprised that there's not more characters with ADHD in media because there's more people with ADHD than autism and it's symptoms are far more noteable than autism is - at least in my case anyways lol. I have both ADHD and autism. Off topic but doesn't ADHD often get overlooked, especially in women because it manifest differently? I dunno but I was diagnosed with it as a six year old little girl so
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Post by LoonySpectre on Nov 18, 2024 19:42:39 GMT
Off topic but doesn't ADHD often get overlooked, especially in women because it manifest differently? I dunno but I was diagnosed with it as a six year old little girl so My late mom used to tell me that I was diagnosed at age five, "then we taught you to read, you started spending literally hours sitting in one place with books, and the doctors somehow retracted the diagnosis next year."
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Post by rocketpineapple on Nov 18, 2024 19:46:18 GMT
I got diagnosed with ADHD at 30, and found Bellara somewhat relatable. Not the whole quirkiness thing, more the self loathing and guilt complex and blaming herself for everything. So, I give it a pass.
Surprised EA didn't pay the game awards for more nominations. That much of a flop, huh.
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