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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 1, 2021 13:59:17 GMT
If no, then how would they get around the dead end that was the MET's end? You might as well prepare yourself now: they're getting around the "dead end" that was the MET's end. Probably not going to pick your ending. That isn't to say they won't try to do stuff with Andromeda, but I think it's almost guaranteed that they're finally ripping the band-aid off. Meh, by this point, nothing is going to disappoint me in regards to ME. That ships has long since sailed.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 1, 2021 14:28:17 GMT
I'm not a particular fan of Liara but at this point after reading all the hate non stop from people who have gone totally irrational about it I want her in every scene and conversation, I want her to show up in a romance scene just to cock block the protagonist. That'd just cause those people to not buy the game, though. So the question is: who'd be laughing then? I'd still laugh at them.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 1, 2021 14:30:46 GMT
That'd just cause those people to not buy the game, though. So the question is: who'd be laughing then? I'd still laugh at them. Why? They wouldn't have to rage about it on the forums. In fact, they'd be glad that they dodged that bullet.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 1, 2021 14:32:20 GMT
Why? They wouldn't have to rage about it on the forums. In fact, they'd be glad that they dodged that bullet. Because their obsession with something petty, got them to quit. I don't begrudge people not liking her, its the people who take it to insane levels that are just flat out irritating.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 1, 2021 14:36:30 GMT
Why? They wouldn't have to rage about it on the forums. In fact, they'd be glad that they dodged that bullet. Because their obsession with something petty, got them to quit. I don't begrudge people not liking her, its the people who take it to insane levels that are just flat out irritating. But they'd have saved themselves, what, 50 or 60 pounds by not buying it. That cash could in fact go to something useful other than going towards a game that would just piss them off. But each to their own.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 1, 2021 14:47:42 GMT
It's too bad Shepard couldn't ask about the armor. My guess is Bioware didn't want to cause any friction between her and Shepard. Or they didn't see it the way you do so it never occurred to them. To them it would be a non sequitur. Is that the same excuse used for why Shepard couldn't ask questions throughout the trilogy? My #1 pet peeve with Shepard is not being able to ask questions. There's also a few times in MEA I wanted Ryder to ask questions, but she/he couldn't.
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Post by natetrace on Apr 1, 2021 15:31:42 GMT
I’ll vote I am krogan. All the debate and speculation is quite funny but frustrating, whether here or on Facebook or Reddit. Judging by the evidence at hand from Twitter and what has been shown and hinted at by multiple sources, the next game will try to appease fans of both galaxies. Although I do think the Milky Way will play a larger role than Andromeda, the Andromeda galaxy will still factor in. Ryder and crew at most will make a cameo, it’s going to be a new character we create with a new squad. I think we will be seeing some angara in the Milky Way, as well as some new races. What problems could arise from connecting these two galaxies, what foe will our heroes face, is the question we should be asking.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 1, 2021 15:53:18 GMT
Or they didn't see it the way you do so it never occurred to them. To them it would be a non sequitur. Is that the same excuse used for why Shepard couldn't ask questions throughout the trilogy? My #1 pet peeve with Shepard is not being able to ask questions. There's also a few times in MEA I wanted Ryder to ask questions, but she/he couldn't. Probably depends on the situation. Sometimes its just a practical reality of telling a story.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Apr 1, 2021 16:11:45 GMT
Is that the same excuse used for why Shepard couldn't ask questions throughout the trilogy? My #1 pet peeve with Shepard is not being able to ask questions. There's also a few times in MEA I wanted Ryder to ask questions, but she/he couldn't. Probably depends on the situation. Sometimes its just a practical reality of telling a story. Some people don't seem to realize this. There is a reason Frodo and Gandalf didn't get into a 3 page discussion about morality when Gandalf mentioned Bilbo's mercy at sparing Gollum and what future part Gollum might play.
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Post by Radec on Apr 1, 2021 16:51:40 GMT
Why? They wouldn't have to rage about it on the forums. In fact, they'd be glad that they dodged that bullet. Because their obsession with something petty, got them to quit. I don't begrudge people not liking her, its the people who take it to insane levels that are just flat out irritating. Obsession is on the end of all the neckbeards always rushing to defend the honor of their grorious fantasy girlfiend every time the bad writing is brought up.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 1, 2021 16:55:15 GMT
Is that the same excuse used for why Shepard couldn't ask questions throughout the trilogy? My #1 pet peeve with Shepard is not being able to ask questions. There's also a few times in MEA I wanted Ryder to ask questions, but she/he couldn't. Probably depends on the situation. Sometimes its just a practical reality of telling a story. Is it? So it's ok for Shepard not to ask Miranda or TIM how his/her body ended up their hands? Couldn't ask thing if green isn't forced, then wouldn't her/him be forcing it, if chosen? Asking Kosta why he was suspended x number of times? Ryder asking if they can see their father's body after learning he's dead? Asking the stowaway why she should be on the roster after saying she prefers to work alone? Asking Anderson if he really believed mentioning the visions would have helped?
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Post by twalicious on Apr 1, 2021 16:56:06 GMT
We do not know what any majority feels about the games. We do not know that the majority of people don't want to play Ryder again, we don't know if the majority want to stay in Andromeda, we just don't know. Yeah, we do. Are you telling us you suffer from short term memory? Were you not there when Andromeda was dropped by the masses resulting in all support for the game being dropped? What about this is so difficult for you people to understand? It's not even science. It's basic observation. The game was not good. People did not like it. It was not a success. Junk bin within a few months. Take off your blinders and face reality already. I literally cannot take seriously any comment you and many others on here post because you come off so delusional. It's cool you liked ME:A. Great, whatever. But don't think for one second that that doesn't make the game a failure by normal performance standards of revenue and retention.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 1, 2021 16:58:12 GMT
Probably depends on the situation. Sometimes its just a practical reality of telling a story. Is it? So it's ok for Shepard not to ask Miranda or TIM how his/her body ended up their hands? Couldn't ask thing if green isn't forced, then wouldn't her/him be forcing it, if chosen? Asking Kosta why he was suspended x number of times? Ryder asking if they can see their father's body after learning he's dead? Asking the stowaway why she should be on the roster after saying she prefers to work alone? Asking Anderson if he really believed mentioning the visions would have helped? I've always wanted to ask Anderson why the fuck did he bring up those visions during the hearing.
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Post by twalicious on Apr 1, 2021 17:04:29 GMT
When the MELE trailer dropped, people were excited because of their lived experience with MET. Not ME:A. That is the portion that matters. That is what BioWare is seeking to reinvigorate. I cried tears of joy because of the events from MW. I didn't think once of ME:A.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 1, 2021 17:59:37 GMT
Because their obsession with something petty, got them to quit. I don't begrudge people not liking her, its the people who take it to insane levels that are just flat out irritating. Obsession is on the end of all the neckbeards always rushing to defend the honor of their grorious fantasy girlfiend every time the bad writing is brought up. Right, its people leaping to defend her who gone on disturbing rants page after page for years on end.
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Post by Radec on Apr 1, 2021 18:13:30 GMT
Obsession is on the end of all the neckbeards always rushing to defend the honor of their grorious fantasy girlfiend every time the bad writing is brought up. Right, its people leaping to defend her who gone on disturbing rants page after page for years on end. the sheer volume of their fanwank cringe over the years has been rivaled only by the sheer disgustingness of that of the Talimancers
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 1, 2021 19:04:54 GMT
When the MELE trailer dropped, people were excited because of their lived experience with MET. Not ME:A. That is the portion that matters. That is what BioWare is seeking to reinvigorate. I cried tears of joy because of the events from MW. I didn't think once of ME:A. Tired of Andromeda fans holding the ME universe hostage because they can't come to grips with reality and so desperately want to continue the plot a majority of people could care less about. I donj' tknow about that because I wasn't as I feel they'er just wasting their tim ebut I guess we'll see.
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When the MELE trailer dropped, people were excited because of their lived experience with MET. Not ME:A. That is the portion that matters. That is what BioWare is seeking to reinvigorate. I cried tears of joy because of the events from MW. I didn't think once of ME:A. Tired of Andromeda fans holding the ME universe hostage because they can't come to grips with reality and so desperately want to continue the plot a majority of people could care less about.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 1, 2021 19:39:40 GMT
Tired of Andromeda fans holding the ME universe hostage because they can't come to grips with reality and so desperately want to continue the plot a majority of people could care less about.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 1, 2021 19:48:22 GMT
Or they didn't see it the way you do so it never occurred to them. To them it would be a non sequitur. Is that the same excuse used for why Shepard couldn't ask questions throughout the trilogy? My #1 pet peeve with Shepard is not being able to ask questions. There's also a few times in MEA I wanted Ryder to ask questions, but she/he couldn't. Getting hamstrung in some dialogues was kind of Mass Effect’s thing for so long that I was just resigned to it at some point. When Anderson mentioned Shepard’s visions, I wanted to bitchslap him, after Shepard being able to say that they’ll think she’s crazy. When Saren said “Are we allowing dreams into evidence? How can I defend myself against this kind of testimony.” I wanted Shepard to blurt out “THANK YOU.”
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Post by colfoley on Apr 1, 2021 20:50:34 GMT
Is that the same excuse used for why Shepard couldn't ask questions throughout the trilogy? My #1 pet peeve with Shepard is not being able to ask questions. There's also a few times in MEA I wanted Ryder to ask questions, but she/he couldn't. Getting hamstrung in some dialogues was kind of Mass Effect’s thing for so long that I was just resigned to it at some point. When Anderson mentioned Shepard’s visions, I wanted to bitchslap him, after Shepard being able to say that they’ll think she’s crazy. When Saren said “Are we allowing dreams into evidence? How can I defend myself against this kind of testimony.” I wanted Shepard to blurt out “THANK YOU.” yeah my Shepard was cringing so hard.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 1, 2021 21:00:40 GMT
Is that the same excuse used for why Shepard couldn't ask questions throughout the trilogy? My #1 pet peeve with Shepard is not being able to ask questions. There's also a few times in MEA I wanted Ryder to ask questions, but she/he couldn't. Getting hamstrung in some dialogues was kind of Mass Effect’s thing for so long that I was just resigned to it at some point. When Anderson mentioned Shepard’s visions, I wanted to bitchslap him, after Shepard being able to say that they’ll think she’s crazy. When Saren said “Are we allowing dreams into evidence? How can I defend myself against this kind of testimony.” I wanted Shepard to blurt out “THANK YOU.” It's one of the reason's why I don't pick him for councilor
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Post by natetrace on Apr 1, 2021 21:24:51 GMT
When the MELE trailer dropped, people were excited because of their lived experience with MET. Not ME:A. That is the portion that matters. That is what BioWare is seeking to reinvigorate. I cried tears of joy because of the events from MW. I didn't think once of ME:A. Tired of Andromeda fans holding the ME universe hostage because they can't come to grips with reality and so desperately want to continue the plot a majority of people could care less about. Holding it hostage? You sure you’re talking about the right galaxy? I thought the Milky Way and those oh so “terrible” endings were holding the franchise hostage. Also worth mentioning it is unlikely that even if they retcon Liara potentially dying at the end of 3, the Milky Way setting will look similar to its previous showings. Also as I said earlier, it sounds like the next game will attempt to appease fans of both galaxies. It won’t stop everyone from whining, but maybe it’ll help turn it down a bit.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 1, 2021 23:11:25 GMT
When the MELE trailer dropped, people were excited because of their lived experience with MET. Not ME:A. That is the portion that matters. That is what BioWare is seeking to reinvigorate. I cried tears of joy because of the events from MW. I didn't think once of ME:A. Tired of Andromeda fans holding the ME universe hostage because they can't come to grips with reality and so desperately want to continue the plot a majority of people could care less about. Holding it hostage? You sure you’re talking about the right galaxy? I thought the Milky Way and those oh so “terrible” endings were holding the franchise hostage. Also worth mentioning it is unlikely that even if they retcon Liara potentially dying at the end of 3, the Milky Way setting will look similar to its previous showings. Also as I said earlier, it sounds like the next game will attempt to appease fans of both galaxies. It won’t stop everyone from whining, but maybe it’ll help turn it down a bit. Honestly, I don't think we can even consider Liara's canonized survival a retcon, since there's no way to account for both high and low EMS. But the fact that the endings did leave the entire universe in a bind as to how to move forward is what concerns me. Only reason Andromeda exists was to escape it.....and now here we are, back at it again.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 2, 2021 5:15:11 GMT
We do not know what any majority feels about the games. We do not know that the majority of people don't want to play Ryder again, we don't know if the majority want to stay in Andromeda, we just don't know. Yeah, we do. Are you telling us you suffer from short term memory? Were you not there when Andromeda was dropped by the masses resulting in all support for the game being dropped? What about this is so difficult for you people to understand? It's not even science. It's basic observation. The game was not good. People did not like it. It was not a success. Junk bin within a few months. Take off your blinders and face reality already. I literally cannot take seriously any comment you and many others on here post because you come off so delusional. It's cool you liked ME:A. Great, whatever. But don't think for one second that that doesn't make the game a failure by normal performance standards of revenue and retention. I swear I am not the one with a short term memory for you couldn't even remember everything I said in my post. 1) Andromeda had support for six months they patched the game and improved it to the point it should have been at launch. What it didn't have was post-launch content. 2) Its not basic observation for there are plenty of people that liked Andromeda and again you have only seen a segment of the people that played the game talking about it online. Unless you have some magic survey that contacted a diverse population of people that played the game and not just those that post online. 3) You do not know it wasn't a success you are assuming that based on a couple of pieces of information that your feelings about the game are true. That doesn't mean its reality for we don't have the numbers to make the determination that it was a success or not unless you have some top secret information from EA breaking down how the game preformed overall. Imposing your viewpoint onto limited information doesn't make it a truth. 4) You hated the game great, but it doesn't mean your interpterion of limited information or what you consider to be a success or failure to be accurate to the standards that EA has internally. Which is what my point has always been that we don't have enough information to make a case for how the game did one way or the other. Just because your viewpoint is backed by what you think is good information doesn't mean that information cannot be seen one way or another since its just a few random points. My personal feeling of Andromeda is that it is an "okay game" I have played better, but I have played worse and I will never claim its a perfect game or that it doesn't have major problems. So don't assume my feelings on something just because I disagree with the internet narrative.
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