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Post by Croatsky on Nov 7, 2022 22:18:10 GMT
maybe in the aftermath of the Reaper War some planets were environmentally damaged as a result of the war? It's late stage capitalism.
I do have this pet theory of mine that Milky Way is still far from recovering from Reaper war 6 centuries later and they will be desperate to acquire Jardaan teraforming technology.
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Post by eternalambiguity on Nov 7, 2022 22:19:39 GMT
I don't remember from ME3 - did the Asari Council member die?
Unlikely, but not sure what other title they could give Liara.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 7, 2022 22:21:28 GMT
I don't remember from ME3 - did the Asari Council member die? Unlikely, but not sure what other title they could give Liara. No, the Council (and every other named character on the Citadel) survived ME3 as confirmed by the devs. Could either be a title for something in the game, or maybe even Matriarch but they don’t want to say that since that confirmed when this takes place.
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 7, 2022 22:24:48 GMT
I don't remember from ME3 - did the Asari Council member die? Unlikely, but not sure what other title they could give Liara. No, the Council (and every other named character on the Citadel) survived ME3 as confirmed by the devs. Could either be a title for something in the game, or maybe even Matriarch but they don’t want to say that since that confirmed when this takes place. Salarian Councilor can die.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 7, 2022 22:27:17 GMT
I don't remember from ME3 - did the Asari Council member die? Unlikely, but not sure what other title they could give Liara. No, the Council (and every other named character on the Citadel) survived ME3 as confirmed by the devs. Could either be a title for something in the game, or maybe even Matriarch but they don’t want to say that since that confirmed when this takes place. Matriarch was my first thought but there are lots of possibilities
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2022 22:40:04 GMT
Okay, so now we have the full translation between Liara and the Geth. There's definitely some anger in Liara's voice at "human defiance"...
I can see it. How did we miss this? Exactly, the Council will be furious, although they should know by now not to underestimate human defiance. It always was their most defining characteristic.
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Post by Little Bengel on Nov 7, 2022 22:50:02 GMT
Clearly "REDACTED" stands for "big angy at whatever the fuck humanity did this time"
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Post by Mazder on Nov 7, 2022 22:52:43 GMT
Okay, so now we have the full translation between Liara and the Geth. There's definitely some anger in Liara's voice at "human defiance"... I can see it. How did we miss this? Exactly, the Council will be furious, although they should know by now not to underestimate human defiance. It always was their most defining characteristic.Humanity really is the Persistence Hunter made manifest, lol. Reminds me of all those old "Humanity Fuck Yeah" stuff I saw a while back. Stuff like "We metabolise rocket fuel and live on a death world where everything can kill us" stuff like that. Turns out our skulls are thicker than the densest Krogan plates!
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 7, 2022 22:55:10 GMT
Clearly "REDACTED" stands for "big angy at whatever the fuck humanity did this time" 
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 7, 2022 23:01:05 GMT
Okay, so now we have the full translation between Liara and the Geth. There's definitely some anger in Liara's voice at "human defiance"... I can see it. How did we miss this? Exactly, the Council will be furious, although they should know by now not to underestimate human defiance. It always was their most defining characteristic.Hmm. While it could just be the transmission, Liara sounds very... robo... and sinister, the more I listen to this. Could everyone be indoctrinated/geth-indoctrinated and it's the plucky humans building a resistance and relays so they don't have to pass through controlled ones?
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Post by Solas on Nov 7, 2022 23:11:54 GMT
The conversation between Liara and the geth in the clean transmission starts right as the ripple goes past the 'camera'. Gamble tweeted that it isn't just a ripple of visual distortion. I suspect the ripple is a cloaked ship. Liara and her geth friend are on the ship. This conversation starts as they fly their ship towards what turns out, they discover, to be a new non-Reaper mass relay being constructed by humanity. This sounds like Liara and the other being discovering for the first time that this mass relay is being built. Ig they were on a scouting mission or came to investigate sus activity in the area.
as they flew their ship towards it, the relay would have come into [their] view. mr geth notices it and says so to Liara. Liara is then confirming that she also sees it, and then she sounds mad at herself (and possibly also the group she is now affiliated with) for not seeing this before/realizing that something this huge was going on. and the council will be mad because I'm willing to bet, making a new mass relay isn't legal. but ofc humans gonna human, so these humans, whoever they are, built one anyway
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Post by Son of Dorn on Nov 7, 2022 23:19:54 GMT
So humans are finally defying their alien overlords? Hell yeah!
Does this mean that we get to kill Liara?!
Oh please! Oh please! Oh please! Oh please!
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 7, 2022 23:29:51 GMT
I actually interpreted the whole exchange with her being on the side of humanity, but both interpretations are interesting; while I don't think they'll go for a human vs galaxy situation, it'd be a surprising shift if they'll go for Liara as an antagonist/rival.
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Post by volusprime on Nov 7, 2022 23:46:26 GMT
The conversation between Liara and the geth in the clean transmission starts right as the ripple goes past the 'camera'. Gamble tweeted that it isn't just a ripple of visual distortion. I suspect the ripple is a cloaked ship. Liara and her geth friend are on the ship. This conversation starts as they fly their ship towards what turns out, they discover, to be a new non-Reaper mass relay being constructed by humanity. This sounds like Liara and the other being discovering for the first time that this mass relay is being built. Ig they were on a scouting mission or came to investigate sus activity in the area. as they flew their ship towards it, the relay would have come into [their] view. mr geth notices it and says so to Liara. Liara is then confirming that she also sees it, and then she sounds mad at herself (and possibly also the group she is now affiliated with) for not seeing this before/realizing that something this huge was going on. and the council will be mad because I'm willing to bet, making a new mass relay isn't legal. but ofc humans gonna human, so these humans, whoever they are, built one anyway I agree with this - it is probably a geth stealth ship maybe? Or it at least has cloaking tech whatever it is and then when they get close the transmission starts with her saying “I can see it” I don’t see nothing sinister about it personally and I just see it as a more confident and mature Liara as her character has progressed over the trilogy into someone who is now a legend in the universe having survived and been a pivotal part of the reapers defeat as well as her already being the shadow broker etc - she is just speaking on the nature of is possibly a newly formed or what remains of the council not knowing of this - she’s probably also annoyed being the shadow broker of not knowing herself also lol there may also be common accepted laws in place about building relays etc but maybe with the world still reorganising post reaper war information is slower to spread in “known space” I’m really enjoying the aesthetics of todays even along with the initial teaser - it all feels a lot more traditional mass effect than andromeda to me Been a brilliant N7!
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Post by Solas on Nov 7, 2022 23:58:05 GMT
I think it all (Milky Way, Andromeda Galaxy, Liara, geth, mass relays, quarian-sounding Captain name) has something to do with this lore from Andromeda Initiative background info: “Charting the Andromeda Galaxy for habitable planets presents a unique challenge. Observation is limited by light, and given Andromeda's distance, any observations from the Milky Way are 2.5 million years out of date–enough time for a planet to have altered irrevocably.
Initial attempts to identify settlement sites were made by obtaining asari astronomical surveys and running them through predictive models. But Jien Garson was unwilling to risk thousands of colonists without solid information.
Eventually, the Initiative obtained promising data from quarian explorers who claimed to have found a geth array on the fringes of the Perseus Veil. This array was supposedly built from three mass relays, using sensors in the combined relay corridor as a form of FTL "telescope" to observe dark space beyond the galactic rim. Why the geth expended so much effort to study dark space is not known.
Amongst these observations were near-contemporary surveys of Andromeda. When our predictive models confirmed them within an acceptable margin, the Initiative was able to begin identifying "golden worlds."also considering the geth, AI, Alec Ryder and Liara and Alec's correspondence. the center of the venn diagram..
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Post by azarhal on Nov 8, 2022 0:01:12 GMT
Listening to the "official" version, I think the original guess about MR7 was accurate years ago: it's a Cerberus built Mass Relay. Or Cerberus is all that is left of Humanity post ME3. And it's so getting highjacked by Liara and her crew for something else  . I think if they go this route, they would make a big production about how all of the PTs are canon, just occurring in a different timeline/universe. The game then deals with one specific timeline/universe. Time travel was never even hinted at in any Mass Effect game, book, comic or anime. The bomb that created the Scourge feels sad to have been forgotten, but it did its best to wrap the space time continuum across the Heleus cluster.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 8, 2022 0:16:56 GMT
The conversation between Liara and the geth in the clean transmission starts right as the ripple goes past the 'camera'. Gamble tweeted that it isn't just a ripple of visual distortion. I suspect the ripple is a cloaked ship. Liara and her geth friend are on the ship. This conversation starts as they fly their ship towards what turns out, they discover, to be a new non-Reaper mass relay being constructed by humanity. This sounds like Liara and the other being discovering for the first time that this mass relay is being built. Ig they were on a scouting mission or came to investigate sus activity in the area. as they flew their ship towards it, the relay would have come into [their] view. mr geth notices it and says so to Liara. Liara is then confirming that she also sees it, and then she sounds mad at herself (and possibly also the group she is now affiliated with) for not seeing this before/realizing that something this huge was going on. and the council will be mad because I'm willing to bet, making a new mass relay isn't legal. but ofc humans gonna human, so these humans, whoever they are, built one anyway I don't think it's a Geth "friend", but I think Liara intercepted a Geth transmission? Call me crazy, but my God the second line of the mysterious voice sounds like Jennifer Hale. It's the "don't suppose" and I can't make out the rest.
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Post by chris2365 on Nov 8, 2022 2:25:32 GMT
Been an interesting N7 Day with the latest teaser!
It's something we already knew, but hearing Liara in that transmission suggests at least some elements of the post ME3 ending Milky Way ending will become canonized.
The theory presented by Hrungr about multiple timelines post ME3 could be interesting, and in some ways could be the best compromise, if executed properly.
However, hearing the Geth in that transmission though would suggest that Destroy is not canon? Unless some Geth escaped the Destroy ending blast, or they were rebuilt. Lots of possibilities!
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Post by jrpN7 on Nov 8, 2022 2:40:31 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike"Although, they should know by now not to underestimate human defiance!" - Liara T'Soni (Doctor, Shadow Broker and <REDACTED>). #N7Day  This excites me. It feels so good to see new and official concept art of the Mass Effect (milky way) universe. It feels like going home. Not to mention those skyscrapers are beautiful. They don't look asari to me, although they are the only species we know of that would/could construct such elegant structures. My money is on a new race discovered after the defiant humans built a new mass relay and accidentally discovered a new sector of the Milky Way where the remaining Jaardan hide.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 8, 2022 5:21:34 GMT
I think we are watching the footage from the perspective of Liara and the geth. The wavy interference that passes from right to left on the screen has a shape that reminds me of a person. At first I thought it was the reflection of whoever is watching the video, but the wavy lines make me think it's supposed to be electrical interference in the monitor. Kind of like Control Shepard swimming under the surface of the monitor. Is someone with mad video skills able to remove the background to isolate the shadow?
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 8, 2022 6:17:14 GMT
Hmmmh.
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Post by NotN7 on Nov 8, 2022 6:26:57 GMT
Hehe lots to think about but what is really great about this N7day is there is something to talk about bring on the hype 
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 8, 2022 6:50:25 GMT
Hmm. While it could just be the transmission, Liara sounds very... robo... and sinister, the more I listen to this. Could everyone be indoctrinated/geth-indoctrinated and it's the plucky humans building a resistance and relays so they don't have to pass through controlled ones? Hrungr, I like you. Hell I even respect you. But your geth indoctrination theory is very silly.
Just... just no.
We only know of Reapers, Leviathans and Thorian being able to indoctrinate. Last two being organics, while Reapers are mix of organic and synthetic. We never had a pure synthetic being being able to indoctrinate. On top of it no way BioWare will turn geth back to being villains, after making them sympathetic in ME2 and bit too sympathetic in ME3 at the expense of Quarians.
And based on what? Liara being frustrated with humans undermining Citadel Council authority again by exploring possibly dangerous technology and/or misappropriating resources meant for post-war recovery. She doesn't need to be indoctrinated to be annoyed with humans on this.
As for her sounding robotic, well I had plenty of Discord calls where someone came off robotic due to bad connection. There's nothing sinister about this, you're overthinking this.
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Post by bshep on Nov 8, 2022 7:14:08 GMT
This is likely talking about the ripple effect on the screen of the video which may be, as mentioned above, from a cloacked ship flying around.
We got Liara talking with the Geth, a ship whose captain's name looks a lot like a quarian one and humans doing something against the Council's wishes. They are definitely building some sort of mass relay which i bet is for making a connection with Andromeda.
But i have to wonder why. Everything in this video and that picture of Omega (?) makes the technology look really similar to what they have during the time of the ME Trilogy, maybe the date really is 2190. So why focus on this now when the galactic civilizations need rebuilding from the Reaper war, from worlds attacked to the whole mass relay network. What could be so urgent? Did some Reapers run away from the crucible energy wave by flying to another galaxy?
This was a nice N7Day but it will be torture to wait another year for more information...
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