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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 4, 2023 10:50:54 GMT
Interesting article this week: insider-gaming.com/exclusive-new-details-on-dragon-age-dreadwolf-revealed/But how valid is it? The real truth doesn't always emerge intact from 'anonymous sources? How drastic do you think the 'refit' has been and when will the game actually drop? Article text: "Insider Gaming sources, who have spoken to Insider Gaming under the request of anonymity have said that Dragon Age Dreadwolf might be further away than previous rumors have suggested. The development of Dreadwolf began in 2015 and has seen significant changes over its eight-year development, but EA is still yet to issue a release date for the title. Previous rumors have suggested the game could release in 2023, but the information provided to Insider Gaming suggests that the date could be rather optimistic. Sources, who have knowledge of the game and its progress, have said that the game still lacks features, completed character lines, and still contains the remnants of the game’s past, which abruptly change direction in early 2021. According to Bloomberg’s Jason Schreier, Dragon Age Dreadwolf pivoted from its planned multiplayer components to a single-player experience. Two sources have revealed that some of those multiplayer components are still ‘sensed’ to some degree in the current build of the game – with one source saying “the game felt a bit like Destiny with a central hub where players could probably regroup before heading into the next mission”. The games hub, though, will still play a vital role in Dreadwolf in its single-player format. Dreadwolf follows a similar gameplay loop to its predecessors, which will involve recruiting and growing your crew, whom you’ll encounter by completing missions. Your recruited crew will populate your hub, where you can give them different pieces of equipment and modifications as your progress throughout the game. It’s understood that you’ll be able to move from your hub to missions by passing through a mirrored portal. As for combat, one source, who recently played the game, suggested that it was more akin to a hack n’ slash compared to past games, and the game’s combat wheel is similar to that of the one in Final Fantasy 15. As for your crew, it was said that you currently cannot control them and only select the ability they can cast in combat. As for when Dragon Age Dreadwolf will release is anyone’s guess – but missing voice lines and placeholder text likely suggests it’s a bit further back than originally rumored. No actual dates from sources were given to Insider Gaming, but we wouldn’t be surprised if the game releases in 2024. A lot more details were provided to Insider Gaming, but we were unable to get sufficient corroboration and will report as more sources come forward. Insider Gaming reached out to EA before the publication of this report but did not receive a comment."
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Post by thecommandershepard on Feb 4, 2023 16:11:25 GMT
This isn't looking good, in my opinion, as it appears that they're moving away from tactical RPGs with good roleplaying and toward single-player MMOARPGs with each game. Are we getting the true "Dragon Effect" or "Mass Dragon"? If that's true that's to me quite unfortunate as they're depriving series elements that I enjoyed and what drew me to it. That's without even touching upon all the potential technical and story issues that can and most likely will end up in the game, especially considering that a lot of major figures from the old guard have left over the years.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 4, 2023 22:21:43 GMT
So more leaks are dropping. Looks like BioWare has improved the hair...
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Feb 4, 2023 22:32:18 GMT
So more leaks are dropping. Looks like BioWare has improved the hair... I would say with leak screenshots the leak becomes real. I mean some crazy stuff to write down is pretty easy but with screenshots it´s legit. And No like GTA 6 before those aren´t faked those are real stuff. Theoretically of course this still can be fakes but no i would take too much effort to create those just to having for 1-2 days of fame. Also 99% leaker would make mistakes that Hardcore fans would easy find.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 4, 2023 22:41:37 GMT
Theoretically of course this still can be fakes It's smells legit to me. A faker isn't going to build a correct coat of arms into a door. Are they?
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 4, 2023 23:56:11 GMT
It's doesn't have to be the most cutting edge graphics in the world. So long as the story is awesome.
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Post by xerrai on Feb 5, 2023 1:14:30 GMT
Honestly? Not the worst news. The combat can be hit or miss depending on how it turns out, but I am one of the people who was mostly happy with how DA transitioned to more active combat in DAI. But taking away or unlocking companion control seems like a bit much. I may not have liked the tactical menu, but I still thought it was neat to have the option available.
The "remnants" from its initial multiplayer-only conception was to be expected. But so long as those remnants are far and few between, I'll be happy. And if the alleged reddit leak is any indication, they are making improvements in areas like animations and the oft-requested hair graphics. So that's promising news at least.
But it's still anybody's guess how the game will turn out. Even if you have the best graphics in the world, none of that will matter if the story, quest content, and combat is sh*t.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 5, 2023 1:17:48 GMT
none of that will matter if the story, quest content, and combat is sh*t. Quite right. What I would hope is that given the very long gestation period, that the story has had a good deal of thought, I mean how could it not have as the game has been through several versions.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 5, 2023 1:51:18 GMT
So yeah, lots of factors are still at play with this which leads to the desire to make sure this is taken with one giant grain of salt, so I think the speculation is vague. Keep in mind, for instance, that the Crestwood leaks for Inquisition had what looked like the Skyrim compass in there which led to a bunch of hand wringing but by the time the game came out there was no such features.
-The inventory. Biggest sense of hype that I could probably get from this. Keeping in mind specifically above the inventory screen looks very much like the one in Assassins Creed Vahalla. WHich then there is a seperate tab for collections which could mean random junk you are getting, or collection things like the bottles of Thedas. Its not a gurantee because it still might be hidden in the bag for instance but hopefully this means that they have gone away from the traditional RPG loot and sell nonsense and going to actual unique gear...like Vahalla. -The classes. The interesting bit is it says 'Grey Warden' and then the whole thing about the Elvish Knight. Hmm. There is a lot of possibilities here. Is this an indication of some kind of Origin Story? Is this an indication of a much more fixed protagonist? Does this mean there are a wide variety of different classes? Time will tell.
And yeah the stuff looks gorgeous even in the unfinished state. Picture six looks like it could really be fleshed out nicely.
Other thing is people have been conspiracy theoring that this is something they did intentionally, I can't speak to that, but the game looks like its well along. Like I wouldn't be the least bit surprised that we do see official marketing on this soon because its starting to get there.
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Post by eternalambiguity on Feb 5, 2023 2:26:16 GMT
Is there a thread yet for the latest leak? www.resetera.com/threads/dragon-age-dreadwolf-gameplay-leaks.683371/Edit: ah, just saw the comment above. According to one comment I saw that video and info is at least a year old. It's entirely possible that things like party control and more advanced AI might happen later on in development...however I wouldn't want to assume it will and be disappointed. ...so I'll just have the disappointment now, I guess. Dragon Age occupied a pretty exclusive niche gameplay-wise, and I'd hate to see that disappear. Edit 2: "Elvish Knight" makes me think of Arcane Warrior but that's clearly full armor so likely not applicable. Edit 3: sorry for these, but rather not spam new posts. In the video the enemy off to the right attacks twice and brings down the player's health; the next moment it looks like the player blocks, either automatically (in a DAO way) or with a (non-ability) button press...probably the latter (aka twitch combat). Additionally the final charged attack...it's definitely possible that's the same thing, but the color and visual effect both seem similar to the right ability symbol (that only becomes enabled as the player approaches the enemy in front of them), so hard to say on that one.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Feb 5, 2023 3:04:21 GMT
If it's true that's over a year old then we really shouldn't take much stock in what we saw. This is why I'm not thrilled to get first gameplay look via a leak rather than BioWare. Still kind of interesting to see and discuss but I don't feel like I can properly judge it.
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Post by colfoley on Feb 5, 2023 3:59:59 GMT
the hype is real. This adds a lot of credibility to the leaks.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Feb 5, 2023 4:26:42 GMT
According to one comment I saw that video and info is at least a year old. This, right? Dr_Laserstein"This is from the same footage I've seen, and it's worth pointing out that it's of a build from nearly a full year ago. Also, right around the end of the footage, a (literally) huge bit of popular Dragon Age speculative lore fodder pops up, although context is a bit unclear due to the rough nature of the build." And when asked about the purple tendrils and light up-sword: Dr_Laserstein"The purple stuff on the ground is part of gameplay mechanic, where you open up areas of the level by destroying nodes connected by the tendrils. There's also bit in the footage where a glowing purple tentacle attacks an NPC. I feel like I have a decent guess as to what/who the tentacle/purple goo is related to story wise, but it's strictly a guess. Based on a cutscene at the end of the footage, the sword seems to have some significance — at least in this quest — but context is down to a few dialogue wheel options without sound, and without working captions." Could be total bs but eh, we're in the leak trenches now, might as well speculate lol
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Feb 5, 2023 6:02:54 GMT
According to one comment I saw that video and info is at least a year old. This, right? Dr_Laserstein"This is from the same footage I've seen, and it's worth pointing out that it's of a build from nearly a full year ago. Also, right around the end of the footage, a (literally) huge bit of popular Dragon Age speculative lore fodder pops up, although context is a bit unclear due to the rough nature of the build." And when asked about the purple tendrils and light up-sword: Dr_Laserstein"The purple stuff on the ground is part of gameplay mechanic, where you open up areas of the level by destroying nodes connected by the tendrils. There's also bit in the footage where a glowing purple tentacle attacks an NPC. I feel like I have a decent guess as to what/who the tentacle/purple goo is related to story wise, but it's strictly a guess. Based on a cutscene at the end of the footage, the sword seems to have some significance — at least in this quest — but context is down to a few dialogue wheel options without sound, and without working captions." Could be total bs but eh, we're in the leak trenches now, might as well speculate lol So we get excalibur this time. Neat. I'm not sure we weren't thinking 2024 anyway. So that's not a big deal to me necessarily. Its not like they're going back on a released release date. Hub idea sounds mechanically similar to Skyhold or the Normandy. I don't see how its much of a change? Elven PCs confirmed, so race choice in general is hopefully a definite. After it being in question in DAI, its good to know. Combat controls sounds inspired by how MEA handled squad combat. I actually liked the movement in combat in that game. More trimming of active abilities kinda sucks if we only get 2 plus a special. But I can live with it. If I'm not playing a mage. Mage having only two spells on hand is... bleh to me. But active parrying *could* be fun? Depending on just HOW GoW like the combat gets, we may actually have more combat options than just 2 + special, also. From what I've seen, in GoW Kratos had just two weapons and a shield by the end, but he had a lot of move options. If they go that route, with moveset trees instead of just ability/spell trees, they could make it work and still let us have access to a lot of things while only having two active abilities. And then the squadmates are like two atreuses Boi(s), spitting out variations on their ability that are determined by the player, when and where the player wants. Which would again be kinda like ME (OT and A). DA-style combat does seem dead, though. Its likely a forlorn hope, but I do hope there is at least still a pause function, though. ME 3's pause is fine, just give me one, pls.
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Post by apollexander on Feb 5, 2023 7:12:46 GMT
It looks like the combat becomes more action-based rather than tactics-based. I just wonder if the mages can swing their great staves like in DA2 blowing the shitheads brutally .
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 5, 2023 7:14:48 GMT
Didn’t see the video, but everything else just validates a lot of my fears on these aspects of the game.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 5, 2023 9:44:47 GMT
I think it's better to move away from the weird DA:I middle ground (that failed completely) and focus entirely on action-based combat instead. I'm sure some people will dislike it though, and that's completely fair. But nothing is definite anyway.
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 5, 2023 9:58:11 GMT
I can't remember off the top of my head, I think Mark Darrah said that only a tiny proportion of players used 'tactical view'. And a sequence of melee combat doesn't speak to mage or rogue combat, nor imply it isn't there.
As leaks go, some are unduly spoiling or damaging, I don't think this is either of those.
To me, it's a reassuring glimpse of a game coming together.
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Post by fairdragon on Feb 5, 2023 10:05:17 GMT
please no. The combat look like a no for me. It looks like i won't be able to play it. The even games bring me no luck in DA.
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Post by fairdragon on Feb 5, 2023 10:12:00 GMT
So we are a warden again?
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 5, 2023 10:49:49 GMT
So we are a warden again? Not necessarily. Perhaps 'origins' are back?
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 5, 2023 11:02:24 GMT
This isn't looking good, in my opinion, as it appears that they're moving away from tactical RPGs with good roleplaying and toward single-player MMOARPGs with each game. Are we getting the true "Dragon Effect" or "Mass Dragon"? If that's true that's to me quite unfortunate as they're depriving series elements that I enjoyed and what drew me to it. That's without even touching upon all the potential technical and story issues that can and most likely will end up in the game, especially considering that a lot of major figures from the old guard have left over the years. *sighs*
BioWare always wanted to move away from tactical RPGs.
You are misusing the term MMO.
BioWare has revealed years ago they are going for God of War 2018 style game for Dragon Age Dreadwolf.
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 5, 2023 11:18:06 GMT
I can't remember off the top of my head, I think Mark Darrah said that only a tiny proportion of players used 'tactical view'. And a sequence of melee combat doesn't speak to mage or rogue combat, nor imply it isn't there. As leaks go, some are unduly spoiling or damaging, I don't think this is either of those. To me, it's a reassuring glimpse of a game coming together. DAI tactical view was really atrocious on PC, while game itself heavily incentivized to play from action(?) view. Maybe it worked better on consoles, as camera controls were clearly made for controller.
As I mentioned before, BioWare always wanted to move away from tactical RPG. Going for God of War 2018 style gameplay is dream come true, although comically old guard that dreamed of it for nearly 2 decades is almost entirely gone from BioWare.
Don't do crunch time kids, it will actually delay your dream games.
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