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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 7, 2016 22:02:59 GMT
I mean, besides the fact it's a colossal retcon of course.
Shouldn't the greatest endeavour of the Milk Way be a hot topic during the trilogy?
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Nov 7, 2016 22:04:55 GMT
It not being military, it had no way of helping out against the conflict with the geth/collectors/reapers. So it wasn't mentioned.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 7, 2016 22:07:03 GMT
Why would they mention it? Why do they have to?
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Post by kino on Nov 7, 2016 22:07:05 GMT
I'm guessing because the story hadn't been written yet. Just a guess.
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Post by ddraigcoch123 on Nov 7, 2016 22:08:04 GMT
We saw things through the eyes of an Alliance officer and we (Shepard) didn't even know where/how the citadel shit was being built or which corporations were involved... We knew and had access to the military focused data and information we needed to complete our mission... plenty of shit going on in the Galaxy including huge Corporation projects that didn't make it onto Galactic news networks
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Post by straykat on Nov 7, 2016 22:09:13 GMT
Because Mac Walters is an asshole.
Not necessarily a bad writer, mind you. I like many things he does actually. But this guy makes no qualms about hand waving, playing favorites and railroading in general, possibly bullying other writers (L'etoile), and insulting his fans' intelligence on a consistent basis. That's just an asshole.
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Post by Cyonan on Nov 7, 2016 22:09:36 GMT
It being a retcon is the obvious reason.
If you want to try to write in a reason, Shep probably never heard about it because as far as we know it left during the time when they either thought Shep was dead or working for Cerberus, so the Alliance wasn't exactly keeping you in the loop as to what was going on in the galaxy.
By the time ME3 rolled around it was already gone, and wasn't going to be of use against the Reapers.
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 7, 2016 22:10:12 GMT
Why would they mention it? Why do they have to? Because it is a major achievement. For example, when Kaiden is talking about how the Citadel dwarfs Jump Zero or Arcturus Station, wouldn't it be prudent for someone to say the Nexus is actually almost as big as the Citadel?
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Post by colfoley on Nov 7, 2016 22:11:21 GMT
Why would they mention it? Why do they have to? Because it is a major achievement. For example, when Kaiden is talking about how the Citadel dwarfs Jump Zero or Arcturus Station, wouldn't it be prudent for someone to say the Nexus is actually almost as big as the Citadel? We don't mention CERN in every day conversation. Nor the Lunar Landings nor most things that happen in human history really.
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 7, 2016 22:12:52 GMT
Because it is a major achievement. For example, when Kaiden is talking about how the Citadel dwarfs Jump Zero or Arcturus Station, wouldn't it be prudent for someone to say the Nexus is actually almost as big as the Citadel? We don't mention CERN in every day conversation. Nor the Lunar Landings nor most things that happen in human history really. In the right context we do. And there were many right contexts in the trilogy in which such technological marvels could have been mentioned.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Nov 7, 2016 22:13:04 GMT
Why would they mention it? Why do they have to? Because it is a major achievement. For example, when Kaiden is talking about how the Citadel dwarfs Jump Zero or Arcturus Station, wouldn't it be prudent for someone to say the Nexus is actually almost as big as the Citadel? The crew in ME1 would have all been deployed somewhere else and wouldn't know the details of the AI. That's assuming there isn't one parked above earth.
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Post by Arcian on Nov 7, 2016 22:16:39 GMT
It not being military, it had no way of helping out against the conflict with the geth/collectors/reapers. So it wasn't mentioned. Uh, excuse me, but having the ability to journey 600 years without refueling or discharging is extremely useful in military situations. It basically eliminates the need for supply lines.
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 7, 2016 22:18:41 GMT
It not being military, it had no way of helping out against the conflict with the geth/collectors/reapers. So it wasn't mentioned. Uh, excuse me, but having the ability to journey 600 years without refueling or discharging is extremely useful in military situations. It basically eliminates the need for supply lines. Not to mention, everything in the AI seems to be cutting edge technology. The Normandy that was an exceptional ship for the Alliance is nothing compared to what the AI is building.
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Post by lezio on Nov 7, 2016 22:18:45 GMT
Because BW didn't think they would have needed an "Escape Button" from the Milky Way.
Dunno why they didn't think that, though, since ME3's endings, other than being a mess, basically make it virtually impossible to write a sequel that isn't XXXXXXXXXX years in the future
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Post by colfoley on Nov 7, 2016 22:19:43 GMT
We don't mention CERN in every day conversation. Nor the Lunar Landings nor most things that happen in human history really. In the right context we do. And there were many right contexts in the trilogy in which such technological marvels could have been mentioned. And there are plenty of contexts where it would not be neccessary. Besides we do not really know how much of a common knowledge the AI was during the events of Mass Effect. Or even if people thought it would even work. We have no context when you get down to it. It not being military, it had no way of helping out against the conflict with the geth/collectors/reapers. So it wasn't mentioned. Uh, excuse me, but having the ability to journey 600 years without refueling or discharging is extremely useful in military situations. It basically eliminates the need for supply lines. We do not know how the Arks even work though enough to know whether the technology could be adapted for military use. They could have been essentially pointed in the direction of the Andromeda Galaxy and fired at it at extremly high velocity. We just do not have enough information yet.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 7, 2016 22:21:39 GMT
It was classified.
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Nov 7, 2016 22:23:07 GMT
It not being military, it had no way of helping out against the conflict with the geth/collectors/reapers. So it wasn't mentioned. Uh, excuse me, but having the ability to journey 600 years without refueling or discharging is extremely useful in military situations. It basically eliminates the need for supply lines. We don't know the method used. For all we know in order to bypass the discharge problem the ship has to be roughly the size of the citadel.
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 7, 2016 22:24:45 GMT
Uh, excuse me, but having the ability to journey 600 years without refueling or discharging is extremely useful in military situations. It basically eliminates the need for supply lines. We don't know the method used. For all we know in order to bypass the discharge problem the ship has to be roughly the size of the citadel. And so why not build warships the size of the citadel?
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Post by Petroshenko on Nov 7, 2016 22:26:38 GMT
Because Andromeda is part-prequel and ya know, that's the issue you always get with prequels
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Nov 7, 2016 22:26:56 GMT
We don't know the method used. For all we know in order to bypass the discharge problem the ship has to be roughly the size of the citadel. And so why not build warships the size of the citadel? It costs a fuck ton of money would be my guess.
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Post by napoleon on Nov 7, 2016 22:27:27 GMT
Why do I feel like Arcian and SofNascimento are not going take any other answer other than Bioware sucks.
It is quite obvious it's a retcon. But at this point if Bioware wants to respect players decisions in ME3 and avoid the adressing the catastrophe that is ME3's ending they are going to have retcon. Frankly I don't really care. None of the info they have given us is offensively lore-breaking. I'm sure they will provide us with some sort of excuse for why nobody mentioned it but that doesn't really matter that much in the grand scheme and it won't ruin the game. The only thing I care about here is that I get more Mass Effect.
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Post by armass81 on Nov 7, 2016 22:27:44 GMT
ME lore has lots of stupid things that make little sense, like the time in leviathan when the proferssor said "40 years ago people tought aliens were still a myth"... really? I live in 2016 and only people who i know that consider aliens a myth or thibnk were alone are couple of religious zealots and my grandparents who think the universe stops at the end of their farms field. Was the beginning of 2100s another dark age or something?
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Post by lezio on Nov 7, 2016 22:28:00 GMT
We don't know the method used. For all we know in order to bypass the discharge problem the ship has to be roughly the size of the citadel. And so why not build warships the size of the citadel? Better yet, where the hell did they find the resources to build a warship the size of the Citadel? In ME3 we had to get most of the races, and a shit-ton of resources, to build the crucible. When, and how, did they do that? In their spare time? :/
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Post by dalinne on Nov 7, 2016 22:28:59 GMT
Because it's a soft reboot Because scientist are nerdsBecause of... reasons, ok?
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 7, 2016 22:29:41 GMT
And so why not build warships the size of the citadel? Better yet, where the hell did they find the resources to build a warship the size of the Citadel? In ME3 we had to ally all of the races, and get resources from each planet we came across, to build the crucible. When, and how, did they do that? In their spare time? :/ It's because it's privately founded! They have more resources than the Alliance itself and more than the Asari , who could not recover from the loss of the Destiny Ascension and gave up their military duties to the Turians.
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