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Post by Daft Arbiter on Nov 26, 2016 22:18:16 GMT
Wait what? When does this happen? In ME3 when you first talk to Thane at the window in the lobby of the Huerta Memorial Hospital. At 0:49 in the above video... They did try to cut the scene a bit from what FemShep does, but you'd still have to be pretty stupid not to recognize it as a kiss on the cheek. That just looks like a poorly-done animation. Because those do occur in Bioware games sometimes. Or are we all going to just pretend Aria flying around Omega didn't happen.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 27, 2016 2:51:07 GMT
The kiss that killed a thousand Reapers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 12:17:26 GMT
In ME3 when you first talk to Thane at the window in the lobby of the Huerta Memorial Hospital. At 0:49 in the above video... They did try to cut the scene a bit from what FemShep does, but you'd still have to be pretty stupid not to recognize it as a kiss on the cheek. That just looks like a poorly-done animation. Because those do occur in Bioware games sometimes. Or are we all going to just pretend Aria flying around Omega didn't happen. ... and that was my point in posting it. People flip out over the Liara hug, but it stems from the same practice... just cutting away the actual "kiss" part. It's not that it's "normal" for people to lean in close to each other and purse their lips when just patting each other on the back and not "normal" for even strangers to hug sometimes. It's sloppy editing on Bioware's part... and neither case is worth getting really upset over, IMO.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 27, 2016 17:19:45 GMT
Yeah, Bioware is lazy like that sometimes. But I don't mind. I just tell myself they used the money they saved for something cool.
The only thing that bothered me a bit was how the romances reset in ME3 at some point and suddenly everyone is game again. The conversation with Kaidan in the hospital is especially awful when he's not romanced. He flirts with Shepard and even sort of tries to guilt-trip her into a romance by bringing up the girl he liked ages ago. WTF. His self-pity game is bad here. He'll always ask if Shepard is flirting with him. Uh, Kaidan, Shepard is with Liara. You know that! Makes Kaidan come off like an ass.
I do wish Bioware would fix stuff like that. Reusing animations I don't care about. And I expect MEA to use A LOT of assets from DAI too. You can already see it in the trailers. Again, I don't mind. It only breaks immersion when suddenly everyone forgets your character's relationship status. Or when the Dalish inquisitor asks who Mythal is...
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 28, 2016 13:46:39 GMT
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It is a human centric story but my vote goes towards a Helius cluster alien as our designated friend. That's because: 1- the alien is not a LI 2- Bio wants us to like the new aliens from Andromeda 3- There is a hint that the Ryders may be back in a future game. Our alien friend adds sugar to the mix.
You know, I may not even discover this, if my game interest pulls me in other directions.
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Post by General Mahad on Nov 28, 2016 22:04:40 GMT
I think your reading too much into the cut, there's an animation where a character puts their hand on the other persons shoulder to try to console them or give them a morale boost. Well, I think people are reading too much into Liara's hug. It's really not worth flipping out over. Both scenes result from Bioware wanting to use the same motions to cover a cut scene between Shepard and a character they may be in a romance with. The same is also true with Garrus on earth where that "shoulder pat" motion is the start of a kiss if Garrus is Shepard's LI. What they cut from the Thane scene was the actual kiss that a romanced FemShep gives Thane... while leaving in the motion of leaning in for that kiss. What they cut from the Liara hug on Ilium was Shepard trying to actually kiss Liara and Liara pushing Shepard away. It's all about conserving computing resources... nothing more. Can they do better?... I've said three times that they certainly can and that's a fair criticism. Flipping out over Bioware "forcing" Liara as a BFF on the players is not a reasonable criticism, IMHO. To compensate a bit if they have an issue with it, the player can 1) opt to skip many conversations with her; 2) be rude to her in several conversations; 3) recruit her so late in ME1 that a relationship is not possible in that game; 5) forfeit recruiting Thane and Samara and skip meeting Liara on Illium altogether; 5) skip the ME3 cabin conversation and the conversation on the Citadel; and 6) for further good measure, skip talking to her on Earth as well. As I've also said, combined with talking frequently with whoever I want to make seem like my BFF, I can manipulate the situation sufficiently to make it clear that person is my BFF or LI and not Liara. I just can't make her hate Shepard... and that's not really a big deal for me since some people do inexplicably dote on people who don't like them IRL... just like some people can't stand people around them not being as upset about their complaints as they are. I really shouldn't have to repeat myself so much... I have already leveled a fair criticism on this matter. Right.....well Liara's hug is obviously a hug, and Shepard is obviously putting his/her hand on Thane shoulder and leaning to console Thane(like he does with various NPCs in the game) and not giving him a kiss on the cheek.
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Post by dalinne on Nov 28, 2016 22:37:30 GMT
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It is a human centric story but my vote goes towards a Helius cluster alien as our designated friend. That's because: 1- the alien is not a LI 2- Bio wants us to like the new aliens from Andromeda 3- There is a hint that the Ryders may be back in a future game. Our alien friend adds sugar to the mix.
You know, I may not even discover this, if my game interest pulls me in other directions.
Oh, bummer!!
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Post by Wheeljack on Nov 28, 2016 23:01:59 GMT
Honestly, I find most of the human characters rather bland, but I also don't understand all this BFF forced onto us stuff? I personally didn't feel any of the characters were forced onto me, but that's just me and it doesn't invalidate anyone that thinks differently. Did some act way more friendly than I would have liked? Yeah, but that happens IRL all the time. I will say I could have done without the whole mind-meld thing. Frankly I feel people have more reason to flip over that than a simple hug? I don't liked being hugged either, but for some people hugs /are/ the same thing as a hand shake or a pat on the shoulder. It default to their nature. Doesn't mean you have to like it, of course. I'd be all for Bioware being able to give us truly organic relationships where the characters react accordingly to how you've treated them, but it's a lot of dialogue and a lot of variables to keep track of... The cost piles up what with the time spent writing, planing, programming and VOing it. They're going to make mistakes and leave out stuff and disappoint people. That, and there's the story they want to tell. Sometimes how we want to play that story might not fit into the overall picture they want to paint, so that option isn't there for us to play out.
But anyway, back on track with the question posed, if they really do "force" a human BFF on us, I won't like it much if I wind up hating the character. On the off chance that I like them, well awesome. I don't have high hopes of it, though. My track record of most-liked ME characters have been mostly aliens. Kaiden, Ashley, and Jacob are probably some of my least liked companions. Miranda was kinda "eh" to me, but at the end of the day I'll give her a pass. She actually got picked for some missions where as the first three were only there when I had no choice. Jack was interesting. I didn't use her much, but she was pretty unique. Joker was amazing, and he was definitely a BFF. What I wouldn't have given for a scene of Shepard stealing his hat. XD And of course Anderson. That scene with him at the end of ME3. Man. Oh, and Vega. As much hate as he gets, and as much I honestly expected to hate him, I actually kinda like the guy. Definitely took some warming up to, though, but that honestly made it feel more natural.
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I don't expect them to force any BFFs on us, but if they do, I'll deal with it, human or not.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Nov 29, 2016 15:19:25 GMT
Not everyone is a fan of the designated non-human best friends especially if they're heavily plot-armored. I doubt it was that hard for anyone to think up who fit this description. I find its adorable that the game attempt at diversity was through its aliens. I guess someone's culture is more interesting to listen to when they're aliens.
I would have preferred some form of friendship and rivalry as in Dragon Age and SWTOR. Nobody need to approve what you do or what you say and they're free to make assumption of who you are or insult you for the person you are. You get to pick who you want your friends and who you don't see as friends.
Also another example of "forced upon", EVERYONE who finished ME1 took Liara's virginity. Mindmelding is an act of intimacy for the Asari and how they reproduce. You're always her first lover regardless of your relationship status.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 29, 2016 15:27:29 GMT
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It is a human centric story but my vote goes towards a Helius cluster alien as our designated friend. That's because: 1- the alien is not a LI 2- Bio wants us to like the new aliens from Andromeda 3- There is a hint that the Ryders may be back in a future game. Our alien friend adds sugar to the mix.
You know, I may not even discover this, if my game interest pulls me in other directions.
Oh, bummer!! Oh please. Fly to another galaxy and not fornicate local life? Does that sound like a Bioware game to you?
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Post by dalinne on Nov 29, 2016 22:53:35 GMT
Oh, bummer!! Oh please. Fly to another galaxy and not fornicate local life? Does that sound like a Bioware game to you? Ahriman, you are a wise man
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Post by dalinne on Nov 29, 2016 23:06:26 GMT
Also another example of "forced upon", EVERYONE who finished ME1 took Liara's virginity. Mindmelding is an act of intimacy for the Asari and how they reproduce. You're always her first lover regardless of your relationship status. I know what you mean but I don't think you are right There has to be different types of mindmelding since: 1) Liara makes a great deal about "joining minds" if you choose to romance her. In order to romance her, you have to pass the obligatory "mindmelding" scene after recruiting once (and maybe twice in all game). What's the point of making Liara so anxious about her mind-virginity if she has already lost it with you? 2) Then we have mind-sex with Shiala, haven't we? We joined minds with her in Feros too in order to get the Cipher. 3) (Obligatory Simpsons' reference) Liara is not a mind-rapist! She might be a stalker, a creeper, a communist... BUT SHE IS NOT A PORNSTAR OMEGA'S STRIPP DANCER! To sum up: there is a difference between joining minds ala Shiala and unromanced Liara (ME1 beacon information, ME3 the friendly gift) versus sex mind ala Sha'ira and romanced Liara (ME1 before Ilos, ME2 after Shadow Broker's Lair, ME3 lover's gift).
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Post by aoibhealfae on Nov 30, 2016 3:15:03 GMT
Also another example of "forced upon", EVERYONE who finished ME1 took Liara's virginity. Mindmelding is an act of intimacy for the Asari and how they reproduce. You're always her first lover regardless of your relationship status. I know what you mean but I don't think you are right There has to be different types of mindmelding since: 1) Liara makes a great deal about "joining minds" if you choose to romance her. In order to romance her, you have to pass the obligatory "mindmelding" scene after recruiting once (and maybe twice in all game). What's the point of making Liara so anxious about her mind-virginity if she has already lost it with you? 2) Then we have mind-sex with Shiala, haven't we? We joined minds with her in Feros too in order to get the Cipher. 3) (Obligatory Simpsons' reference) Liara is not a mind-rapist! She might be a stalker, a creeper, a communist... BUT SHE IS NOT A PORNSTAR OMEGA'S STRIPP DANCER! To sum up: there is a difference between joining minds ala Shiala and unromanced Liara (ME1 beacon information, ME3 the friendly gift) versus sex mind ala Sha'ira and romanced Liara (ME1 before Ilos, ME2 after Shadow Broker's Lair, ME3 lover's gift). It was Liara's first time; physically and mentally. Romanced or unromanced, Shepard is the first person in her life she mindmelds with in her entire 106+ years of living. Shiala is a trained Asari commando, not a sheltered Asari virgin princess who doesn't seem to know what she was doing. Shiala transferred the Cipher as a last resort and she doesn't do it to poke through your thoughts or became so attached that she made trophies out of the things you died in even if you barely even know her. If mindmelding is that easy, ME1 would have ended early if the Asari matriarch simply strode over and mindmeld with Shepard. Joining the minds is not a handshake, its a sharing of minds, thoughts, feeling. Its the Asari-equivalent of seeing you naked and touching you. Its an intimate act and it wasn't something they do very lightly as they can do it for pleasure and also for pain (Morinth used it to dominate her victim's mind and to make her more powerful. Aria used it to prolong Petrovsky's death.) Throughout the trilogy Liara invades Shepard's privacy regardless of how you feel about it because the game runs under the assumption that you got a massive hard-on for her and default-like her doing it. She touched your mind, she touched you, she collect your stuff for her apartment decoration, she took your dogtags which should have gone to your family or loved ones, she claim Miranda's room, even unromanced, she went to your room more times than your chosen LIs. She persist in the Presidium even after you exhaust her dialogues. These are the stuff that occur in EVERY playthrough, you're not given a choice at all about her involvement in Shepard's life. She's a parasitic blue leech that you can't get rid off without Harbinger's help turning her into a steaming pile of mulch. I wish I could like her on my own but even that was taken from me since her content was limited because of her designated lover/BFF role. What else is there really?
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Post by napoleon on Nov 30, 2016 3:37:32 GMT
I do wish Bioware would fix stuff like that. Reusing animations I don't care about. And I expect MEA to use A LOT of assets from DAI too. You can already see it in the trailers. Again, I don't mind. It only breaks immersion when suddenly everyone forgets your character's relationship status. Or when the Dalish inquisitor asks who Mythal is... Wait what looks likes it's being reused from DA:I? The only thing that resembled anything in DA:I was the weird looking rock formations from the Storm Coast. The character models and items all looked like new assets.
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Post by dalinne on Nov 30, 2016 20:59:39 GMT
I know what you mean but I don't think you are right There has to be different types of mindmelding since: 1) Liara makes a great deal about "joining minds" if you choose to romance her. In order to romance her, you have to pass the obligatory "mindmelding" scene after recruiting once (and maybe twice in all game). What's the point of making Liara so anxious about her mind-virginity if she has already lost it with you? 2) Then we have mind-sex with Shiala, haven't we? We joined minds with her in Feros too in order to get the Cipher. 3) (Obligatory Simpsons' reference) Liara is not a mind-rapist! She might be a stalker, a creeper, a communist... BUT SHE IS NOT A PORNSTAR OMEGA'S STRIPP DANCER! To sum up: there is a difference between joining minds ala Shiala and unromanced Liara (ME1 beacon information, ME3 the friendly gift) versus sex mind ala Sha'ira and romanced Liara (ME1 before Ilos, ME2 after Shadow Broker's Lair, ME3 lover's gift). It was Liara's first time; physically and mentally. Romanced or unromanced, Shepard is the first person in her life she mindmelds with in her entire 106+ years of living. Shiala is a trained Asari commando, not a sheltered Asari virgin princess who doesn't seem to know what she was doing. Shiala transferred the Cipher as a last resort and she doesn't do it to poke through your thoughts or became so attached that she made trophies out of the things you died in even if you barely even know her. If mindmelding is that easy, ME1 would have ended early if the Asari matriarch simply strode over and mindmeld with Shepard. Joining the minds is not a handshake, its a sharing of minds, thoughts, feeling. Its the Asari-equivalent of seeing you naked and touching you. Its an intimate act and it wasn't something they do very lightly as they can do it for pleasure and also for pain (Morinth used it to dominate her victim's mind and to make her more powerful. Aria used it to prolong Petrovsky's death.) Throughout the trilogy Liara invades Shepard's privacy regardless of how you feel about it because the game runs under the assumption that you got a massive hard-on for her and default-like her doing it. She touched your mind, she touched you, she collect your stuff for her apartment decoration, she took your dogtags which should have gone to your family or loved ones, she claim Miranda's room, even unromanced, she went to your room more times than your chosen LIs. She persist in the Presidium even after you exhaust her dialogues. These are the stuff that occur in EVERY playthrough, you're not given a choice at all about her involvement in Shepard's life. She's a parasitic blue leech that you can't get rid off without Harbinger's help turning her into a steaming pile of mulch. I wish I could like her on my own but even that was taken from me since her content was limited because of her designated lover/BFF role. What else is there really? Yes, I think Shepard is the first person who Liara mind-melds with. She didn't have much experience with people in general, she tells you. Yes, I think that is the start point where Liara starts to love Shepard. Yes, I think romanced or not, Liara is in love with you. No, I don't think any mindmelding = Asari Sex.Using your comparison: if mind melding it's the Asari-equivalent of seeing you naked and touching you, that doesn't imply sex. Using a human equivalent: your doctor seeing you naked and touching you in order to examinate you. Of course when we humans have sex we tend to be naked, but not everytime we are naked is because we are having sex. I think we can say the same about the Asari mind-melding. There is a difference between "seeing your mind naked in order to give and take information" (Shiala, Liara) and "seeing your mind naked in a recreative and intimate way" (romanced Liara, Shiala, Morinth, and the rape-mind melding of Aria). I get the problem with Liara starts when she takes something it was not supposed to be intimate and wants something more of it. Like your doctor who has seen you naked a couple of times in order to tell you what's the problem with your backpain suddenly confesses you she/he is in love with you. It can be pretty awkward. And highly inappropiate. But regardless of the inappropriate feelings of Liara, she doesn't have mind sex with you if you don't romance her. Also, I really like in ME3 I don't have to tell Liara to move on and let Shepard alone. If you are not nice with her, you don't even have the opportunity to romance her. And in order to start a romance with her, you have to take the first step, because this time she won't push you. FINALLY.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Dec 1, 2016 6:27:05 GMT
Yes, I think Shepard is the first person who Liara mind-melds with. She didn't have much experience with people in general, she tells you. Yes, I think that is the start point where Liara starts to love Shepard. Yes, I think romanced or not, Liara is in love with you. No, I don't think any mindmelding = Asari Sex.Using your comparison: if mind melding it's the Asari-equivalent of seeing you naked and touching you, that doesn't imply sex. Using a human equivalent: your doctor seeing you naked and touching you in order to examinate you. Of course when we humans have sex we tend to be naked, but not everytime we are naked is because we are having sex. I think we can say the same about the Asari mind-melding. There is a difference between "seeing your mind naked in order to give and take information" (Shiala, Liara) and "seeing your mind naked in a recreative and intimate way" (romanced Liara, Shiala, Morinth, and the rape-mind melding of Aria). I get the problem with Liara starts when she takes something it was not supposed to be intimate and wants something more of it. Like your doctor who has seen you naked a couple of times in order to tell you what's the problem with your backpain suddenly confesses you she/he is in love with you. It can be pretty awkward. And highly inappropiate. But regardless of the inappropriate feelings of Liara, she doesn't have mind sex with you if you don't romance her. Also, I really like in ME3 I don't have to tell Liara to move on and let Shepard alone. If you are not nice with her, you don't even have the opportunity to romance her. And in order to start a romance with her, you have to take the first step, because this time she won't push you. FINALLY. Asari are aliens. Physical intimacy is unnecessary for their species. They reproduce through mildmelding. They could mate with jellyfish or a varren and nobody bats an eye. If you want to make comparison with clinical terms, Mindmelding is not a biopsy, its more like an endoscopy. They took something and shove into a very uncomfortable place so deep just to see what you look like inside. In Liara's case, she found something and tell the others about it but secretly took a lot of pictures and hung it to her wall and make self-insert fanfiction out of the experience. That's a breach of trust. Even Sha'ira have more professional ethics with mindmelding than Liara does. She only need to mindmeld once to recognize Ilos (virmire and feros requirement) but she'll default-mindmeld you after Feros just to say your mind is strong and amazing and she became attached to you and pine for you for the entire game and she'll even make up how close friends mindmeld all the time and if you refuse it, you're a jerk and she'll press you again to give her some words of encouragement. Seriously? She made me want to put my foot on her face and push her away just to leave Shepard alone. You do this to someone for real, you get slapped with a restraining order. I don't begrudge people who like her, enjoy her and see her harmless. What I want was having some rein of how much involvement some characters would have into my Shepard's story. I could do this to Kaidan, Ashley, Tali, Garrus, Wrex, Grunt, Miranda, Jacob, Jack, Mordin, Thane, Samara, Morinth, Zaeed, Kasumi, Legion, James, EDI, Javik... wait, that's everyone in the game. I could ignore and most of them I could kill. Even EDI and James are quite optional to interact with and they don't have all characters pressuring me to talk to them or emotionally manipulate me because of a designated ubiquitous status as bestfriend/lover who happened to be more 'interesting' because she's an alien and humans are boring.
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