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Post by Monica21 on May 7, 2017 13:18:00 GMT
With Garrus? Take a look at this post. Let me know if it works. It did for the one's who tested it. The right and left squad member doesnt necessarily correlate with how you choose them, does it? |
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Post by themikefest on May 7, 2017 13:28:38 GMT
The right and left squad member doesnt necessarily correlate with how you choose them, does it? I don't know. It wouldn't be hard to figure out. In the case of Jack and Garrus, choose Garrus first and then Jack. If his icon is on the right, you're good to go. If not, quit, then reload and choose Jack first then Garrus. |
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Post by Monica21 on May 7, 2017 17:37:22 GMT
I don't know. It wouldn't be hard to figure out. In the case of Jack and Garrus, choose Garrus first and then Jack. If his icon is on the right, you're good to go. If not, quit, then reload and choose Jack first then Garrus. I'll want to play again to confirm this, but I think the right/left icons is the order in which they display on the squad selection menu. I choose Garrus first and then Samara, and Samara showed up on the left, because Samara is further to the left on the selection screen. Then I chose Miranda and Garrus, and Garrus is the icon on the left. Then I chose Garrus and Miranda, and Garrus's icon was still on the left. edit: Well that theory didn't survive long. Nevermind. |
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Post by themikefest on May 7, 2017 21:34:57 GMT
I'll want to play again to confirm this, but I think the right/left icons is the order in which they display on the squad selection menu. I choose Garrus first and then Samara, and Samara showed up on the left, because Samara is further to the left on the selection screen. Then I chose Miranda and Garrus, and Garrus is the icon on the left. Then I chose Garrus and Miranda, and Garrus's icon was still on the left. edit: Well that theory didn't survive long. Nevermind. Look at the link that I gave you. The names that are in italic are the ones who are caught by Shepard on the platform because their icon is on the right. Look for Garrus. His name will be in italic only with certain squadmates. Use Garrus and Jack. Choose whoever first, then the other. If Garrus is on the right, you're good to go. If not, reload. Then pick the other one first. In other words if you want Garrus to be caught by Shepard only bring Jack, Kasumi, Tali or Thane with Garrus. At that point its a matter of who is chosen first that will be on the left or right. |
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Post by themikefest on Jul 23, 2017 1:15:57 GMT
Yes. depending on what squadmate is assigned to do what, its possible 5 could survive or 4 if a squadmate is sent back with the crew.
Jack is killed with no armor upgrade
Kasumi dies because no shield
Thane dies because no cannon
Send Mordin/Tali in the vent - dead
Miranda 2nd fireteam leader - lives
Mordin/Tali/Legion/Jacob/Samara/ taken by seeker swarm
Zaeed/Garrus/Grunt hold the line all 3 survive
take Miranda/Legion/Samara/Jacob/Mordin/Tali die fighting proto reaper I would send Tali/Mordin to fight the reaper with one of the others
leave Legion/Samara/Miranda/Jacob to hold the line. the two that are left to hold the line will survive because they already have 1 point and with Grunt/Zaeed/Garrus having 3, 2 of them will give a point to the others for them to survive. So 5 squadmates would survive.
That's without sending anyone back with the crew
If someone is sent back with the crew, then Samara/Jacob/Tali/Mordin/Legion/Miranda/ would survive holding the line making for 4 surviving
For Shepard to survive, at least 2 squadmates have to survive
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Post by themikefest on Dec 12, 2017 14:20:18 GMT
One thing I've never done, and most likely never will, is have all squadmates loyal, but send Garrus/Grunt/Zaeed back with the crew and take Grunt/Zaeed/Garrus to fight the proto reaper leaving everyone else to hold the line. I'm sure Mordin will die. A chance Tali will die as well. If someone has done this or is planning on doing this, I would be interested to know the result. I decided to find out what the result would if this happened. I sent Grunt back with the crew and had Zaeed and Garrus fight the proto reaper. Mordin and Tali died holding the line. Completed a playthrough with everyone loyal. The purpose was to find out how many can die during the suicide mission. Without upgrades Jack, Legion and Thane were killed Garrus died when sent in the vent Zaeed was taken by the seeker swarm Grunt was killed being 2nd fireteam leader Mordin, Kasumi and Tali held the line. Mordin was killed With upgrades Garrus died when sent in the vent Grunt taken by seeker swarm Zaeed was killed being 2nd fireteam leader Left Miranda, Jacob, Mordin, Jack, Tali and Kasumi to hold the line. Mordin and Tali were killed. |
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Post by obbie1984 on Feb 16, 2018 1:32:04 GMT
So I have a run I kind of want to try because I saw a video of it. Basically, everyone dies except my broshep and Kasumi. I know that you need two survivors. But on this YT video, I saw a guy have Zaeed and Kasumi survive the suicide mission. I assume he left all weak fighters to hold the line and that's why only Zaeed survived even despite being not loyal. He did Zaeed's loyalty mission at the end of the game and left him behind.
So he had only one survivor left after that. Does the game allow you to continue to play if you only have one squadmate? If anyone can shed light on this I'd appreciate it. mikefest, you seem really knowledgeable on this stuff. Have you ever done this before? It sounds like an interesting run to try.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 16, 2018 2:39:46 GMT
So I have a run I kind of want to try because I saw a video of it. Basically, everyone dies except my broshep and Kasumi. I know that you need two survivors. But on this YT video, I saw a guy have Zaeed and Kasumi survive the suicide mission. I assume he left all weak fighters to hold the line and that's why only Zaeed survived even despite being not loyal. He did Zaeed's loyalty mission at the end of the game and left him behind. So he had only one survivor left after that. Does the game allow you to continue to play if you only have one squadmate? If anyone can shed light on this I'd appreciate it. mikefest, you seem really knowledgeable on this stuff. Have you ever done this before? It sounds like an interesting run to try. Can you post/link the video? The game will not let Zaeed die if he and another squadmate are the only two on the roster. In one playthrough, I had Miranda and Zaeed the only survivors of the suicide mission with Zaeed not loyal. My intention for the playthrough was to see if I could have Zaeed die on his loyalty mission. I could not. The game will not let that happen if only 1 squadmate is left. So what I did was let Grunt out of his tank. Now I had 3 squadmates. I loaded the save I made before Zaeed's loyalty mission. Zaeed later died on his loyalty mission. |
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Post by obbie1984 on Feb 16, 2018 4:56:58 GMT
I think the creator mentioned that it was glitched? I'm not sure I really understand this correctly. You know what you're talking about so I'm asking you. Thanks for the response.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 16, 2018 5:10:40 GMT
I think the creator mentioned that it was glitched? I'm not sure I really understand this correctly. You know what you're talking about so I'm asking you. Thanks for the response. The person did say it glitched Here I am doing the suicide mission where everyone but Kasumi and Zaeed live, but I kill off Zaeed after my mission. Normally you can't kill Zaeed if there is only one other crew member in your team, (as you must always have 2 squad members), so this is glitched
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Post by obbie1984 on Feb 16, 2018 7:18:38 GMT
Wow, that's totally my bad. I misread and missed the part where he says "normally you can't kill Zaeed if there is only one other crew member." Thanks for pointing it out.
Question though, do you like or prefer most squadmates dying in the suicide mission? Is that your ideal way for the end game?
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Post by themikefest on Feb 16, 2018 11:59:15 GMT
Question though, do you like or prefer most squadmates dying in the suicide mission? Depends on what I want for that paythrough. I have had nearly all squadmates dead many times importing that save into ME3. My ideal end to the game is having at a least one death. The game requires that the player have at least 8 squadmates to complete the game. I have 8 before Horizon. That means I don't recruit Thane, Legion, Tali and Samara. That means without Tali to give the shield upgrade for the SR2, someone will die. |
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Post by obbie1984 on Feb 16, 2018 23:40:45 GMT
Question though, do you like or prefer most squadmates dying in the suicide mission? Depends on what I want for that paythrough. I have had nearly all squadmates dead many times importing that save into ME3. My ideal end to the game is having at a least one death. The game requires that the player have at least 8 squadmates to complete the game. I have 8 before Horizon. That means I don't recruit Thane, Legion, Tali and Samara. That means without Tali to give the shield upgrade for the SR2, someone will die. Interesting. I have never done a run where I haven't recruited someone. I think in all runs I recruit everyone who is obtainable. I wonder how it changes for ME3? I'd assume Thane/Samara doesn't show up, but what about Tali? |
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Post by themikefest on Feb 17, 2018 0:47:52 GMT
Interesting. I have never done a run where I haven't recruited someone. I think in all runs I recruit everyone who is obtainable. I wonder how it changes for ME3? I'd assume Thane/Samara doesn't show up, but what about Tali? If Thane isn't in ME3, Kirrahe, if he survived ME1, will save the salarian councilor. If not, the salarian councilor will be killed. Not much changes without Samara in ME3 except the player loses out on war assets that Samara would have provided. Without Tali, peace is not possible in ME3. Admiral Xen will be on the dreadnought helping. For me, I prefer her on the dreadnought instead of Tali. When deciding which side to choose, after the destroyer is destroyed, Raan is at Shepard's side instead of Tali. If you plan on doing this, I suggest taking T'soni and Vega on the dreadnought mission. They have some good dialogue especially when encountering the geth vi/Legion. You can recruit 8 squadmates without any dying. They don't all have to be loyal. Here's a scenario to look at to see how that's possible. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 25, 2018 11:34:13 GMT
Not entirely suicide mission related,
Over the entire trilogy, who is the absolute hardest companion to kill off?
Miranda? Liara?
Just curious. lol
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Post by themikefest on Feb 25, 2018 14:03:41 GMT
Not entirely suicide mission related, Over the entire trilogy, who is the absolute hardest companion to kill off? Miranda? Liara? Just curious. lol The hardest squadmate to kill off? Since all can die, I wouldn't say any of them are that hard to kill. Miranda isn't that hard. The only time she can die in ME2 is holding the line or fighting the reaper. For that to happen she isn't loyal. She can die if loyal when holding the line depending on who else is holding the line with her. Miranda is probably the hardest to keep alive, at least in ME3. The player has to make sure to do this, that and the other thing to make sure she survives. Liara can only die if ems is below 2000. Take her on the beam run, Harbinger will kill her. Or have ems below 1750, with destroy being the only option, and not take Liara on the beam run. The door to the Normandy doesn't open suggesting everyone onboard are dead. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 25, 2018 20:40:43 GMT
Not entirely suicide mission related, Over the entire trilogy, who is the absolute hardest companion to kill off? Miranda? Liara? Just curious. lol The hardest squadmate to kill off? Since all can die, I wouldn't say any of them are that hard to kill. Miranda isn't that hard. The only time she can die in ME2 is holding the line or fighting the reaper. For that to happen she isn't loyal. She can die if loyal when holding the line depending on who else is holding the line with her. Miranda is probably the hardest to keep alive, at least in ME3. The player has to make sure to do this, that and the other thing to make sure she survives. Liara can only die if ems is below 2000. Take her on the beam run, Harbinger will kill her. Or have ems below 1750, with destroy being the only option, and not take Liara on the beam run. The door to the Normandy doesn't open suggesting everyone onboard are dead. So, there's only one place for Liara to die (other than closed door normandy)... whereas everyone else can die in multiple places? So, Liara is the hardest to kill. I shouldn't be surprised lol |
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Post by themikefest on Feb 25, 2018 21:01:02 GMT
So, there's only one place for Liara to die (other than closed door normandy)... whereas everyone else can die in multiple places? So, Liara is the hardest to kill. I shouldn't be surprised lol I should have mentioned James as well. My bad. He dies under the same conditions as Liara. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 2, 2018 15:46:46 GMT
Going to try to have Garrus, Grunt, Zaeed, Legion, Morinth, and Tali survive the SM for my Renegade pt I'm currently doing. I think it's doable by doing the following:
Approach: Jack, Kasumi, Thane all die (even though not upgrading feels anti badass renegade though. I feel like he'd at least upgrade the canon)
Vents: Jacob dies (he volunteered which earned respect in Shep's eyes)
Bubble/Fireteam: Mordin dies as the team leader (I want to get the, "I held the line" dialogue), No one dies in the bubble using Loyal Morinth.
Escort: Sent back with Loyal Morinth. Head canon that Morinth uses her biotic bubble to keep them safe going to the ship.
Final Battle: Miranda and Loyal Tali. Miranda dies
Hold the Line: Loyal Garrus, Loyal Grunt, Loyal Zaeed, and Loyal Legion all survive.
Possible yes?
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Post by themikefest on Mar 2, 2018 16:01:51 GMT
Going to try to have Garrus, Grunt, Zaeed, Legion, Morinth, and Tali survive the SM for my Renegade pt I'm currently doing. I think it's doable by doing the following: Approach: Jack, Kasumi, Thane all die (even though not upgrading feels anti badass renegade though. I feel like he'd at least upgrade the canon) Vents: Jacob dies (he volunteered which earned respect in Shep's eyes) Bubble/Fireteam: Mordin dies as the team leader (I want to get the, "I held the line" dialogue), No one dies in the bubble using Loyal Morinth. Escort: Sent back with Loyal Morinth. Head canon that Morinth uses her biotic bubble to keep them safe going to the ship. Final Battle: Miranda and Loyal Tali. Miranda dies Hold the Line: Loyal Garrus, Loyal Grunt, Loyal Zaeed, and Loyal Legion all survive. Possible yes? It would be hard for Morinth to maintain the barrier if she's escorting the crew back to the Normandy. I would have Morinth maintain the barrier and one of the others to escort the crew. I would suggest using Tali as the escort. Then send Morinth or Legion with Miranda to fight the reaper. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 2, 2018 16:37:19 GMT
Going to try to have Garrus, Grunt, Zaeed, Legion, Morinth, and Tali survive the SM for my Renegade pt I'm currently doing. I think it's doable by doing the following: Approach: Jack, Kasumi, Thane all die (even though not upgrading feels anti badass renegade though. I feel like he'd at least upgrade the canon) Vents: Jacob dies (he volunteered which earned respect in Shep's eyes) Bubble/Fireteam: Mordin dies as the team leader (I want to get the, "I held the line" dialogue), No one dies in the bubble using Loyal Morinth. Escort: Sent back with Loyal Morinth. Head canon that Morinth uses her biotic bubble to keep them safe going to the ship. Final Battle: Miranda and Loyal Tali. Miranda dies Hold the Line: Loyal Garrus, Loyal Grunt, Loyal Zaeed, and Loyal Legion all survive. Possible yes? It would be hard for Morinth to maintain the barrier if she's escorting the crew back to the Normandy. I would have Morinth maintain the barrier and one of the others to escort the crew. I would suggest using Tali as the escort. Then send Morinth or Legion with Miranda to fight the reaper. I was thinking the crew came after the bubble... whoops. Glad it can still work though! Awesome. |
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Post by melbella on Mar 24, 2018 17:56:08 GMT
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Is it possible to save only Ken/Gabby/Chakwas but have the rest of the crew die? |
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Post by themikefest on Mar 24, 2018 18:22:44 GMT
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Is it possible to save only Ken/Gabby/Chakwas but have the rest of the crew die? No. If the player completes 1-3 missions, after the crew has been taken, before going through the relay, Gabby will die. Chakwas and Ken survive. If more than 3 missions are completed, all crew will be dead except Chakwas. Of course she will die if an escort isn't sent back with her. I've never completed the above. I've always had all crew live or die. |
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Post by melbella on Mar 24, 2018 18:33:39 GMT
So, in order to ensure all the Cerberus crew die, you have to sacrifice Gabby. Booooo.  |
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Post by dazk on Mar 27, 2018 1:09:59 GMT
So, in order to ensure all the Cerberus crew die, you have to sacrifice Gabby. Booooo. No not Gabby  |
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