Why are there no Reapers in Andromeda?

Well, I always liked Destroy most so I don't remember the others that well (only chose them 1 or 2 times). But the point of the Starbrat was that AI will always rebel and kill their creators, that was the belief that it had and that was the reason it acted as it was.

That it miraculous got better ideas when Shepard stood in front of it, is something else. But the "truth" that AI:s will rebel is not an objective truth.

I think it's fine to reference them without causing too much pain about the endings - perhaps the new baddies of ME:A have heard of them or something and can mention it in a convo.  Or you happen upon something that looks like a Reaper part.  

Maybe the Reapers tried to invade Andromeda but failed in the past, due to some more superior race which we will find out about.  And this race laughs at them.  That could be interesting.  Or you find some unactivated Mass Relay that no one in Andromeda knows the purpose of.


I think NOT mentioning the Reapers somewhere would be a mistake.  Making some kind of a connection to the previous trilogy is not a bad thing imo.

Hmm...how about this?  The Reapers eventually did try to invade, ran into a force that was at least its match, and we're left with no overlord race as a result?  Or, y'know, the "Remnant" of a former controlling species?  

Yeah I thought the Remnants could be somehow related to the Reapers, or "remnants" of the victors over the Reapers long ago.  Mass Effect has technology at it's core, so I'd be surprised if we don't see that theme moving forward with the Remnants being the path.

I'm ok with nothing being related to the Reapers AT ALL as well - having all new circumstances and stakes.  But, a reference to them would be good somewhere.

Felt to me like, okay, Original Ending was all Mac thinking he was making a masterpiece with the Starchild being super highfalutin and stuff and clearly in the right as Shepard listened without question (only counterargument being about "emotions" contributing to the child's theme).

Then EC was all the writers fighting each other or confusedly, not-comprehending the task Mac gave them or something. I couldn't do anything but shudder as I tried watching the new synthesis ending and then Sylvia Feketekuty's EDI epilogue says "Organics and synthetics can coexist peacefully" as it pans over an image of a helmless Quarian talking to a Geth. What a fuckin' slap in the face to anyone who had a perfect resolution to this theme on Rannoch... and it just felt like none of the writers knew what to do with this. It doesn't help that it now shows Shepard is aware of the Catalyst being sketchy on the details but then after a hint of disagreement we still just listen to what he says unless we wanna go fatalistic and say we want to "die free" and shit and he turns off the Crucible.

So in the end the Catalyst is just nonsense just like the Reapers were reduced to. I hope we never hear about them or anything regarding the trilogy plotline again in Andromeda. It'll only be a detriment to the new story.

Nevermind that he lets us know that the Relays and the Citadel that is the entire foundation for our extraterrestial society is made by them. That's a little more than a generic bad-guy speech if you ask me.

Maybe that's what happened to the Remnant? Without knowing more, it's my belief that the Remnant are organic beings who "improved" themselves with tech, which oddly parallels the Synthesis ending in the original trilogy. I also believe that this led to their downfall in some way, but can't really speculate further.

As for there being no Reapers, we don't actually know that something similar didn't take place. Something wiped out the Remnant. When you have an advanced space-faring race, there's very little that could wipe out an entire civilization. Some catastrophic event that effected the entire Helios Cluster is one option, but besides that? It'd have to be something that persistently pursues their annihilation (ie Reapers) or something like the Genophage that makes them infertile.

A lot of people in this thread seemed to think you were being sincere about the "Rebel Reaper" idea, since nothing really indicated you were (apparently) being sarcastic? Given the outlandish theories that have cropped up on the BSN over the years, what you were saying sounded like... well, an average Tuesday.
From the information text given in the first orientation video;

"The Initiative's ultimate goal is to establish a permanent presence on the seemingly resource-rich frontier of Andromeda, and eventually create a reliable route between it and the Milky Way Galaxy."

While the text itself doesn't explicitly state they are going to build Mass Relays, it's the obvious conclusion to draw as a potential option to use to link back with the Milky Way. After all, a 600-year-long trip (and 1200-year-long round trip) using conventional FTL would stretch the definition of "reliable"  somewhat.

Since Mass Relays are the most efficient means of interstellar travel everyone in the Milky Way is familiar with, it'd be the natural option to consider when faced with how to reliably cut down travel-time across vast gulfs of space (or between galaxies)? Whether they'll actually manage it is another thing, nor does that necessarily mean we'll see them in MEA, since they're fresh off the boat and building Relays are not an immediate priority.

As I've speculated elsewhere, the best way to link back to the Milky Way would be to employ the same method used in Stargate Atlantis. In that show, their simple-but-elegant solution to easier galactic travel was to seed a few dozen Stargates in the void between galaxies, allowing them to create a "bridge" that connected the networks together. Would be extremely easy to do the same thing in Mass Effect, dropping a few Relays between galaxies, thus cutting down the centuries-long-voyage to a series of jumps.

You are correct Bioware haven't confirmed Relays will appear... but that they have stated the Initiative's plan to eventually create a reliable link back home, paints this as the most obvious (and lore-friendly) route for the colonists to take.

Leviathan is to Reaper as human is to husk.

The Reapers are machines with organic bits to them, built in the form of the Leviathans, and imbued with a "perfected" version of their enthrallment power.

The whole DLC was just an attempt by Bioware to justify their "artistic integrity" and cr*ppy endings.

Bruh we wouldn't even be in Andromeda if the ending to 3 wasn't so totally screwed beyond repair.

Sure it did. Learning that the Citadel and the relay network is an elaborate trap and the entire galactic civilization was playing right into it all this time might have coaxed the leadership to actually delve deeper into the Citadel's inner workings and perhaps stop with these ridiculous rules against studying the keepers. Seems pretty crazy that people lived on this technological wonder for over a thousand years and so little was accomplished in learning how it works. The trouble was that this revelation was ultimately wasted by the writers' propensity for making political leaders incompetent, and of course the inability of all this future tech to actually record things when just about every motorist in Russia has a dashcam. 

But if Sovereign really is saying nothing useful, why is it saying anything at all?

Sovereign: "You are not Saren" *hangs up*

Shepard: "Well…that was weird."