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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 27, 2017 15:21:29 GMT
The art known as "humor" is lost on this one. Fair enough. That said, most of the content of this thread is rather adversarial anyway, so... *shrug* Well, according to brian up there, we are all spoiled brats... been a while since I was called that, to be honest.
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 27, 2017 15:22:34 GMT
On the topic of Scott/Sarah just being made to look "normal"... maybe, but - frankly - who want's "normal" looking heroes anyways? Hollywood and TV audiences sure don't. We are talking light hearten entertainment here, not Oscar Bait movie. It's a fantasy/scifie adventure, not Shindlers List... I don't know about that. Plenty of Hollywood A-listers look pretty normal. As for TV, depends on the show. Picture the whining here if a Bio squadmate was based on any of the principal characters from Girls. Or Adam Driver, come to think of it.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Feb 27, 2017 15:24:04 GMT
I can answer that for you! It's the best damn party in the Terminus, the scourge of the Volus, the beating heart of the Citadel! It's BSN, the tastiest Biotic Wind.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 27, 2017 15:24:40 GMT
Fair enough. That said, most of the content of this thread is rather adversarial anyway, so... *shrug* Well, according to brian up there, we are all spoiled brats... been a while since I was called that, to be honest. Yep. Nothing but a bunch of uncultured, crime-infested slobs that are too overweight to even stand up out of their lazy boys. Never has an individual spoken more truthfully or eloquently about the BSN community. It almost makes me teary-eyed...
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 27, 2017 15:27:03 GMT
Fair enough. That said, most of the content of this thread is rather adversarial anyway, so... *shrug* Well, according to brian up there, we are all spoiled brats... been a while since I was called that, to be honest. I'm not sure I've ever been called such; even as a child. I feel 35 years younger! If only I could get someone to go make me some food, now. I don't wanna get off my butt!
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Post by Banul on Feb 27, 2017 15:30:40 GMT
Yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of the self-indulgent whiny spoiled playerbase when it comes to not only Sara but other things like DA:I. Maybe it's a generational thing. Maybe millennials are huffed up on hormones, narcissism, and inexperience. Empty, over-priveliged babies focusing on trivial bullshit because they themselves are trivial. Then again maybe I'm overly harsh. Kids are as their devices raised them to be. Sorry grandpa, I'll get off your lawn.
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 27, 2017 15:33:53 GMT
Well, according to brian up there, we are all spoiled brats... been a while since I was called that, to be honest. I'm not sure I've ever been called such; even as a child. I feel 35 years younger! If only I could get someone to go make me some food, now. I don't wanna get off my butt! Good thing I got myself a wife 10 years ago, they do stuff like that... if you're lucky. Anywho, seeing as how video games have grown into a billion dollar market, dwarfing even cinema at this point, people can hardly be faulted for taking this sh*t more and more seriously...
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 27, 2017 15:34:10 GMT
Yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of the self-indulgent whiny spoiled playerbase when it comes to not only Sara but other things like DA:I. Maybe it's a generational thing. Maybe millennials are huffed up on hormones, narcissism, and inexperience. Empty, over-priveliged babies focusing on trivial bullshit because they themselves are trivial. Then again maybe I'm overly harsh. Kids are as their devices raised them to be. In all seriousness, it sounds like you've probably been around the Reddit and Twitter crowd too long. Welcome to the BSN. You should find this place less obnoxious, on most days.
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Post by Korra Ryder on Feb 27, 2017 15:38:57 GMT
Yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of the self-indulgent whiny spoiled playerbase when it comes to not only Sara but other things like DA:I. Maybe it's a generational thing. Maybe millennials are huffed up on hormones, narcissism, and inexperience. Empty, over-priveliged babies focusing on trivial bullshit because they themselves are trivial. Then again maybe I'm overly harsh. Kids are as their devices raised them to be. In all seriousness, it sounds like you've probably been around the Reddit and Twitter crowd too long. Welcome to the BSN. You should find this place less obnoxious, on most days. this guy knows what he's talking about. ^^
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 27, 2017 15:41:43 GMT
Good thing I got myself a wife 10 years ago, they do stuff like that... if you're lucky. ... Oh dear. I can feel the triggering happening. People are literally shaking. Yea yea, the real world is a triggering place... whatever that means.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 27, 2017 15:46:16 GMT
I'm not sure I've ever been called such; even as a child. I feel 35 years younger! If only I could get someone to go make me some food, now. I don't wanna get off my butt! Good thing I got myself a wife 10 years ago, they do stuff like that... if you're lucky. My wife is at work. If I go check, she probably cooked last night. I still gotta get off my "spoiled, entitled ass" and go get that food. Turrible. This is Turrible.
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Post by ssanyesz on Feb 27, 2017 15:48:43 GMT
I don't think people are thinking in terms of playing Scott and complaining about Sara, but playing as Sara they want a different look: lucky for those people then character creation is all go. I totally agree re: the Sheploo->Scott Ryder transition being a step back, not just in terms of (my) subjective preference for MeerLoo's looks, but the actual graphical fidelity...it's so weird that a 5-10 year old character model can be much better looking in terms of textures and definition.. bit mental really. vsIt's absolutely the textures! Sheploo's textures are still the highpoint for this series, it seems, 10 years later. In their effort to make the twins look youthful, they may have scrubbed away too much life from Scott and Sara. This style of animation is definitely less lifelike than Sheploo's look of old. It's not the models themselves. Both 2007 Vanderloo and 2017 Brewis are exceptionally good-looking dudes. Vanderloo just got a better, or more faithful, VG transition. To be fair i think Shepard is from ingame, while Scott is from a compressed almost blurry utube video.
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 27, 2017 15:49:23 GMT
Good thing I got myself a wife 10 years ago, they do stuff like that... if you're lucky. My wife is at work. If I go check, she probably cooked last night. I still gotta get off my "spoiled, entitled ass" and go get that food. Turrible. This is Turrible. I feel ya... the patriarchy demands of us too, you know? Ok, I'll better stop now...
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 27, 2017 15:53:39 GMT
It's absolutely the textures! Sheploo's textures are still the highpoint for this series, it seems, 10 years later. In their effort to make the twins look youthful, they may have scrubbed away too much life from Scott and Sara. This style of animation is definitely less lifelike than Sheploo's look of old. It's not the models themselves. Both 2007 Vanderloo and 2017 Brewis are exceptionally good-looking dudes. Vanderloo just got a better, or more faithful, VG transition. To be fair i think Shepard is from ingame, while Scott is from a compressed almost blurry utube video. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes Scott looks dead-on Steven Brewis. (Thus the complaints about Jayde vs Sara.) Other times, Scott's a bit "off". Overall, he looks solid, if not as identical as Sheploo. I do wish the textures were a bit more lifelike, and less play-doh, but there's nothing for that. It's an art direction choice. It will likely look better in-game than I'm seeing in these unfinished screen-caps.
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 27, 2017 16:02:56 GMT
To be fair i think Shepard is from ingame, while Scott is from a compressed almost blurry utube video. Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes Scott looks dead-on Steven Brewis. (Thus the complaints about Jayde vs Sara.) Other times, Scott's a bit "off". Overall, he looks solid, if not as identical as Sheploo. I do wish the textures were a bit more lifelike, and less play-doh, but there's nothing for that. It's an art direction choice. It will likely look better in-game than I'm seeing in these unfinished screen-caps. This. I'm pretty much reserving my judgement until I actually see it for myself in-game. I can't really trust whats in these videos because I'm not confident they are representative of the end product.
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 27, 2017 16:06:00 GMT
Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes Scott looks dead-on Steven Brewis. (Thus the complaints about Jayde vs Sara.) Other times, Scott's a bit "off". Overall, he looks solid, if not as identical as Sheploo. I do wish the textures were a bit more lifelike, and less play-doh, but there's nothing for that. It's an art direction choice. It will likely look better in-game than I'm seeing in these unfinished screen-caps. This. I'm pretty much reserving my judgement until I actually see it for myself in-game. I can't really trust whats in these videos because I'm not confident they are representative of the end product. Well, accroding to a couple of tweets, BW is still working on making the animations better... they also got criticism for them (especially Sara) from basically every previewer they showed the game to, so there still is hope ...still doesn't mean that the final product will look more attractive, though.
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Post by Elsariel on Feb 27, 2017 16:08:52 GMT
This. I'm pretty much reserving my judgement until I actually see it for myself in-game. I can't really trust whats in these videos because I'm not confident they are representative of the end product. Well, accroding to a couple of tweets, BW is still working on making the animations better... they also got criticism for them (especially Sara) from basically every previewer they showed the game to, so there still is hope ... still doesn't mean that the final product will look more attractive, though. ...and that's the reason I play on PC. If I don't like how it looks vanilla-style, it's mod-shopping for me!
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Post by steamshipman on Feb 27, 2017 16:09:34 GMT
The sheer amount of beauty aesthetic mods made my women pales in comparison to the complaints it's all guys wanting "hot girls." So can I link to this everybody who brings up these complaints here and everywhere else? Also if mah brave huntress Aela will meet this incarnation she will resort to extermination cuz " aliens invasion!" I mean girl on this picture is pretty, but I would freak out if I see something that cartoonish in Skyrim.
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 27, 2017 16:10:29 GMT
My wife is at work. If I go check, she probably cooked last night. I still gotta get off my "spoiled, entitled ass" and go get that food. Turrible. This is Turrible. Well. I'm happily unmarried, and I make my own food! Which is a good thing, since I have control on how it tastes, the number of calories, and other stuff important for balanced food intake. Since I'm a stay-at-home-dad, I'm married and make the food... different folks. Also: Yay for mods!
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 27, 2017 16:18:58 GMT
My wife is at work. If I go check, she probably cooked last night. I still gotta get off my "spoiled, entitled ass" and go get that food. Turrible. This is Turrible. Well. I'm happily unmarried, and I make my own food! Which is a good thing, since I have control on how it tastes, the number of calories, and other stuff important for balanced food intake. Yeah, far too few people take this seriously. They have no idea what they are eating. Fortunately, my wife and I are of the same mind, and eat in a very specific, "disciplined" fashion. My wife is awesome. I am fortunate to have met (and wrangled) her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 17:32:32 GMT
while female gamers prefer someone more realistic to what the "average" female looks like for their female avatar? I have possibly wrong but lasting impression that in Skyrim modding scene it's mostly girls who dedicate their time to something like this: So if your experience is representative, for argument's sake, and you counter my theory about Bioware trying to please females, not males, in avatar creation based on females' express desires, what possibilities remain? Is Bioware simply that inept? Is the new technology simply unable to do female "graphics" with fidelity while somehow it is able to do so for males? Did Bioware and its "hidden agenda" decide to make a disparity? I guess we'll never know, and Bioware can't possibly even explain itself ever (I imagine). So, speculation from everyone yet again, with many questioning Bio's motives and many writing it off to ineptness or technological issues.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Feb 27, 2017 18:12:53 GMT
I would love a 10 minute video of the character creator, going over all the options and a few choice premades to show off the tech.
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Post by TheGodlyFist on Feb 27, 2017 18:13:54 GMT
Yeah, let's not get into original recipe PeeBee. Just to be clearer, I'm saying that the photoshopped PeeBee version is conceptually bad.The artist is competent, but has no design vision. Well now we're getting into a conceptual argument here, which is a difficult to make points for. Attractiveness is completely subjective, but aesthetics are easier to argue about. Aestheticly the photoshopped picture better since it takes proportions and flow into account, while the original is more natural since actual faces don't follow aesthetic principles. Both look fine, just one is more pleasing to the eye and another is more pleasing to mind.
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Post by TheGodlyFist on Feb 27, 2017 18:17:23 GMT
The artist did that on a lark in 5 minutes, or so they claim. And I'd still take that over the original. Hey, if he does a serious version I'll give it due consideration. I'm just judging what I can see. And of course you'd like that one better. We wouldn't be doing this if I thought your taste was any good. taste tāst/ noun 2. a person's liking for particular flavors. "this pudding is too sweet for my taste" synonyms: palate, taste buds, appetite, stomach "it's too sweet for my taste" You cant really judge another persons taste.
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Post by TheGodlyFist on Feb 27, 2017 18:23:52 GMT
while female gamers prefer someone more realistic to what the "average" female looks like for their female avatar? I have possibly wrong but lasting impression that in Skyrim modding scene it's mostly girls who dedicate their time to something like this: Yeah the person who made the busty body mods was a female too. Some women just want tits.
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