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Post by wright1978 on Feb 22, 2017 14:57:47 GMT
Personally i'm happy enough that character creation stays within the starting character creator.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 22, 2017 18:06:02 GMT
Because the defaults can't be modified. It would render the feature useless and frustrating for what I can only assume to be the majority of players (how many played default Shep in the OT?) What if they added something like Fallout 4, where you got a second CC screen just as you left the prologue? They could either restrict it from the default face play throughs or just allow us to change the hair length and eye colors on the defaults. All the presets and default are scans this time
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 18:11:09 GMT
Not just hair, but scars aswell. Sometimes i like to add scars as the game goes on, so that the character actually looks like he/she has taken a beating from everything they go through. So something like the Black Emporium would be nice. They could just use the Fallout 4 thing from the intro. Have the pathfinder's mirror be able to customise hair, makeup and scars.
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Post by spacemaninspace on Feb 22, 2017 18:15:12 GMT
I honestly feel that had this question not been brought up, nobody would have cared. Voted no out of indifference.
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Post by Ocelot on Feb 22, 2017 18:23:25 GMT
They could have at least added a barber to the game. The witcher 3 has it
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 22, 2017 19:05:54 GMT
I honestly feel that had this question not been brought up, nobody would have cared. Voted no out of indifference. Tell that to the insane amount of players who requested this same feature to be added in Dragon Age: Inquisition until it was added as free DLC. It'll happen again. This is just to proactively change it before the shit storm hits after the game drops.
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 22, 2017 19:11:15 GMT
Because the defaults can't be modified. It would render the feature useless and frustrating for what I can only assume to be the majority of players (how many played default Shep in the OT?) What if they added something like Fallout 4, where you got a second CC screen just as you left the prologue? They could either restrict it from the default face play throughs or just allow us to change the hair length and eye colors on the defaults. All the presets and default are scans this time I'm aware, but there must be a reason why they haven't made it available for default faces. Also, restricting it for default faces may be ... controversial to say the least.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 22, 2017 19:23:21 GMT
In the spirit of YouTube comment sections: "The 15 dissenters are CRAZY!"
I was at least hoping for the ability to fine-tune Ryder's appearance in his/her private restroom mirror. I wasn't expecting this, but I had hoped. I'm really good with the CC, and generally pretty happy with my PCs. That said, this seems like it's going to be a very long game. Why stick us with potentially growing feelings of character-discontent, when the ability to make modifications could remove that hurdle entirely?
I hope this is something that can and will be added to the game, later.
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Post by veky359 on Feb 22, 2017 19:54:36 GMT
Yeah will be really nice if we can go in our cabin look at mirror and change Hair, Bread and Makeup styles of our character during play I think that this feature don't be complicated to add into game IF Bioware want but for MA:A is too late...
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Post by princessdemeter on Feb 22, 2017 20:49:14 GMT
Because the defaults can't be modified. It would render the feature useless and frustrating for what I can only assume to be the majority of players (how many played default Shep in the OT?) What if they added something like Fallout 4, where you got a second CC screen just as you left the prologue? They could either restrict it from the default face play throughs or just allow us to change the hair length and eye colors on the defaults. All the presets and default are scans this time The Mirror of Transformation still functioned in the Black Emporium for the default Hawkes, who also couldn't be altered. Just sayin'...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 21:23:16 GMT
...What?! I don't even. Besides just generally being a good idea, to the point where it should become (and is becoming) standard in RPGs, did you suddenly forget everything you learned from DA:I, Bioware? Did you forget that people loved that they could change their appearance in DA2, and that there was enough outcry that the feature was removed (on top of terrible lighting in the CC etc.) that you had to add it back in as free DLC? Are you not paying attention to other RPGs being released that have this feature? Did you perhaps play your own game and wish you could use that feature, or play a different one and be thankful it was present? Do you not understand how useful it is? Obviously, when you can't get a good look at your character during creation, from many angles and different lighting settings, it's helpful to be able to tweak a few things after the intro. How could you know they wouldn't look right? But obviously you'd rather us just restart the game like we did so many times in DA:I... But that's not all it's helpful for. What if you want to use it for roleplaying? Change your hairstyle before an important event, like a party infiltration or romance scene? What if you want to simulate your character aging or changing over the course of the story, adding scars or a longer beard, etc.? What if you just get sick of a look and want to change it? So... why not allow us this? Intensive and effective reconstruction surgery is already an established thing in the series, so you don't need a magic mirror for it to make sense in-lore, if that's what you're worried about. There is absolutely no reason it shouldn't be in. And don't try to freaking tell me that at least changing makeup and hair (all hair) wouldn't make sense. That should be allowed at the bare minimum. To sum this up: - Bioware includes a way to alter appearance midgame in DA2, fans enjoy. - Bioware doesn't include this feature in DA:I, have to add it in free DLC because of huge amount of outcry. - Bioware apparently forgets about outcry and decides to leave this feature out of ME:A, and will either anger a lot of fans or just make more work for themselves when they add it in later in a patch. Great plan! And how can I possibly believe you when you say "We learned from our mistakes in DA:I" now? I don't want to be upset, I don't want to disbelieve you, but what other choice do I have when you not only remove a great feature from previous games you made, but remove it after having to do extra work to re-add it because people wanted it so badly? Where is the logic here? Is this what we can expect from you, now? What other extremely vocal and almost universally-agreed-upon feedback will you have forgotten? The feedback that went into adding the Storage chest, or much-needed casual outfits, or about the terrible hair? I already know you didn't listen to the outcry about the 8-power limit.*sigh* It's like, when I finally put just an average amount of faith in you - enough to think you'll actually listen to such vocal feedback - I get even that faith shattered. Oh well. I suppose it was my own fault for having such "high" expectations I've had to say this a few times lately, but if there's something I can't stand, it's regression. Removing great features for no upside is most certainly that. I... I don't disagree, but like.... This is the most overly dramatic reaction to the most mundane thing. I mean, you apparently had faith in the company as a whole "shattered" due to this? Really? Far be it from me to tell you what to care about, but it doesn't sound like you had much faith to begin with, if that's the case. Which is fine, don't get me wrong, but my God.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Feb 22, 2017 23:59:23 GMT
Don't worry, folks. We will get a 5 dollar DLC where they'll give us a barbershop.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 23, 2017 0:21:24 GMT
...What?! <snip> And how can I possibly believe you when you say "We learned from our mistakes in DA:I" now?Where is the logic here? Is this what we can expect from you, now? What other extremely vocal and almost universally-agreed-upon feedback will you have forgotten? The feedback that went into adding the Storage chest, or much-needed casual outfits, or about the terrible hair? I already know you didn't listen to the outcry about the 8-power limit.<snip> I... I don't disagree, but like.... This is the most overly dramatic reaction to the most mundane thing. I mean, you apparently had faith in the company as a whole "shattered" due to this? Really? Far be it from me to tell you what to care about, but it doesn't sound like you had much faith to begin with, if that's the case. Which is fine, don't get me wrong, but my God. That's just the thing; BansheeOwnage 's faith is a bit strained, at this point; and it wasn't just the one feature that did it. Her posts always have this epic presentation, positive or disappointed. Don't let the carefully chosen pics and artful fonts fool you; this isn't an all out rant. It just looks that way to the uninitiated. I added Blue Font for highlighting purposes. EDIT: To be clear, my own disappointment is more mild, as I've previously posted. This is exactly what I expected.
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Post by amoebae on Feb 23, 2017 0:27:55 GMT
I honestly feel that had this question not been brought up, nobody would have cared. Voted no out of indifference. You clearly weren't around when DAI came out, people realised there was no Mirror, and BioWare caved and created it as an update later on as a result of the feedback. But that's okay. Now you know.
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Post by drclawixp on Feb 23, 2017 0:32:21 GMT
In a list of useful professions needed for a daring journey into unexplored space, stylist and barber were not high on the list.
Unless the "B" Ark from Golgafrincham shows up, you're going to be S.O.L.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 23, 2017 0:36:44 GMT
In a list of useful professions needed for a daring journey into unexplored space, stylist and barber were not high on the list. Unless the "B" Ark from Golgafrincham shows up, you're going to be S.O.L. Haha. 1 like for the reference. It need not be so intricately woven into the game, though, as a barber would be. After all, a barber (likely!) can't perform total, transformative reconstructive surgery. A mirror in Ryder's private quarters, maybe in the restroom, would've sufficed. You're free to steal this idea, guys, which I've posted at least a dozen times since June. Please, take it and make it happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 0:56:25 GMT
I... I don't disagree, but like.... This is the most overly dramatic reaction to the most mundane thing. I mean, you apparently had faith in the company as a whole "shattered" due to this? Really? Far be it from me to tell you what to care about, but it doesn't sound like you had much faith to begin with, if that's the case. Which is fine, don't get me wrong, but my God. That's just the thing; BansheeOwnage 's faith is a bit strained, at this point; and it wasn't just the one feature that did it. Her posts always have this epic presentation, positive or disappointed. Don't let the carefully chosen pics and artful fonts fool you; this isn't an all out rant. It just looks that way to the uninitiated. I added Blue Font for highlighting purposes. EDIT: To be clear, my own disappointment is more mild, as I've previously posted. This is exactly what I expected. Fair enough, I suppose.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Feb 23, 2017 0:59:45 GMT
They could have at least added a barber to the game. The witcher 3 has it I didn't want to be 'The Witcher Did It' guy, so I'm glad you took the bullet for me my fellow whoreson .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 2:08:36 GMT
They could have at least added a barber to the game. The witcher 3 has it I didn't want to be 'The Witcher Did It' guy, so I'm glad you took the bullet for me my fellow whoreson . Witcher is missing a key feature, though. Fun.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 23, 2017 2:20:53 GMT
I didn't want to be 'The Witcher Did It' guy, so I'm glad you took the bullet for me my fellow whoreson . Witcher is missing a key feature, though. Fun. Heresy! I can see how someone with no attachment to the characters could have a hard time getting or staying invested in the game. I loved it, but I already loved Geralt and the crew before playing it. It was the final chapter, for me. Not all games are for all people. I admire the Grand Theft Auto games as quality gaming achievements; but I think they're idiotic. I have no desire to play them. I often feel as if I'm the only person who doesn't play the series. Quality doesn't guarantee appeal for all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 2:43:47 GMT
Witcher is missing a key feature, though. Fun. Heresy! I can see how someone with no attachment to the characters could have a hard time getting or staying invested in the game. I loved it, but I already loved Geralt and the crew before playing it. It was the final chapter, for me. Not all games are for all people. I admire the Grand Theft Auto games as quality gaming achievements; but I think they're idiotic. I have no desire to play them. I often feel as if I'm the only person who doesn't play the series. Quality doesn't guarantee appeal for all. I wouldn't say that Witcher exactly hits that "quality" mark in a lot of departments. Story and characters are actually two of its strong points, and I quite enjoyed them, despite the fact that I had no previous attachment to either of those things, since I only played Witcher III. That being said, the gameplay is a complete mess. It's basically an overly complicated version of Fable II's combat system. At least it plays relatively the same way. There are also a lot of nuances to Witcher, specifically, but from what I've played they just seem shallow and unnecessary. The only spell you'll ever need is Quen, and that's only if you're terrible at dodging, which I am not. I've been playing on the second hardest difficulty, and am about 35-40 hours in, and I have yet to brew a single tonic or potion, nor have I had any real reason to do so. I've been following every question mark on the minimap, and I almost never find gear better than what I'm already wearing. The world is much too big, and I've discussed this in the MEA Skepticism thread. All-in-all, Witcher III is a game with a lot of work put into it, and a lot of that work seems completely wasted. It's pretty, and it's massive, but it doesn't need to be the latter, and the former means nothing to me when the major mechanics of the game are either useless clutter or too shallow to feel rewarding or interesting. I've heard Witcher has always had an issue with its combat system, and I'm absolutely horrified of seeing what it was before, considering how terrible it is now. That's just me, though.
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Post by projectpatdc on Feb 23, 2017 2:45:37 GMT
Witcher is missing a key feature, though. Fun. Heresy! I can see how someone with no attachment to the characters could have a hard time getting or staying invested in the game. I loved it, but I already loved Geralt and the crew before playing it. It was the final chapter, for me. Not all games are for all people. I admire the Grand Theft Auto games as quality gaming achievements; but I think they're idiotic. I have no desire to play them. I often feel as if I'm the only person who doesn't play the series. Quality doesn't guarantee appeal for all. Please for the love of all that is holy and great do not let that deter you from playing Red Dead Redemption 2. Red Dead had some quirky parts but my god is it great.
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Post by Cassandra on Feb 23, 2017 2:52:07 GMT
This wouldn't be such a problem if the game a) had great lighting and the ability to move the camera freely around our character in the cc; and didn't have a long and unskippable cutscene right after the cc, making it a pain in the arse to keep going back and restarting the game because your character looks like stale sick once you get them in the game proper. The sheer amount of time I wasted in ME2 just watching the same cut scene drove me up the wall. I don't know why BioWare insists on using shoddy lighting in their CCs. Just let us pick a background for a few sources to see different lightning effects.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 3:05:27 GMT
Witcher is missing a key feature, though. Fun. Heresy! I can see how someone with no attachment to the characters could have a hard time getting or staying invested in the game. I loved it, but I already loved Geralt and the crew before playing it. It was the final chapter, for me. Not all games are for all people. I admire the Grand Theft Auto games as quality gaming achievements; but I think they're idiotic. I have no desire to play them. I often feel as if I'm the only person who doesn't play the series. Quality doesn't guarantee appeal for all.(I also just wanted to say that I understand the second part very well. I can appreciate Ocarina of Time for what it's done for gaming as a whole, but that game is actually one of my least favorite to sit down and play. Feels like such a chore.) .___.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 23, 2017 4:18:28 GMT
Heresy! I can see how someone with no attachment to the characters could have a hard time getting or staying invested in the game. I loved it, but I already loved Geralt and the crew before playing it. It was the final chapter, for me. Not all games are for all people. I admire the Grand Theft Auto games as quality gaming achievements; but I think they're idiotic. I have no desire to play them. I often feel as if I'm the only person who doesn't play the series. Quality doesn't guarantee appeal for all. Please for the love of all that is holy and great do not let that deter you from playing Red Dead Redemption 2. Red Dead had some quirky parts but my god is it great. Yeah, totally different setting. I intend to give it a look.
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