Do you prefer Paragon/Renegade dialogue or DAI-esque dialogue?

BioWare tried to alleviate this drawback by having icons to indicate certain moods. I will agree, however, that those icons were still not helpful with some choices. Without explicitly telling the player what his/her character will say, there is a level of mystery that could lead to an unintentional response the player did not intend.

I agree with you entirely that hopefully the dialogue is very clear and concise and that the choices we make have matching consequences that are appropriate.

Inquisition.

ME's system wasn't that limited as people claim though. If you carried over a save from ME1 with both meters relatively filled this gave you a lot of leighway in ME2/3.

truthfully I'd rather have a dialogue system like new vegas with more dialogue option appearing base on your character's skills and talents as well as choices they made.

however I will settle for some sarcastic hawke style of dialogue

Dragon Age. Paragon/Renegade had its quirks and it's become quite iconic for Mass Effect, but more often than not, I found myself just pulling the stick or moving the mouse into the required corner to hit the Paragon or Renegade option without really thinking about it. It'll be good to play Andromeda and make decisions and dialogue choices on a situational basis instead.

DA:I's dialogue is by no means perfect, but I prefer it over the way too rigid binary system of the MET. Paragon/Renegade created a tendency to streamline dialogue too much whereas an emotion based dialogue system always gives you a better chance to define your character, even if admittedly it sometimes lacked impact, and that's something I hope they improved for ME:A.

But yeah u know exactly what was good and what was bad. Real world isn't like that all the time. Like Garrus said, "gray, we'll I don't know what to do about gray." These games are about choices and simple good or bad isn't going to cut it. Like the devs said, that was Shepard's thing. Besides, I don't like being limited by paragons/renegade. ME2 is a good example. I played a paragon but I enjoyed some renegade moments too. However, in order to ensure loyalty you had to be one or the other to get the blue or red charm/intimidate options. This time around you can speak more your mind and see what the consequences are cause you don't know what's gonna happen. I like that. You can disarm a firearm and it's not necessarily renegade. But you're right about clear and concise dialogue.

I hope they've improved. Some choices have to be hidden Paragon or renegade.

It had similar problems though. For some quests/conversations you'd get a special dialogue option for the type of Hawke you'd been playing, and that led to nonsensical moments like you not being able to talk elves and werewolves down because you hadn't been diplomatic in the last few conversations held in a different place while talking to different people.

I don't see that. If i'm sometimes sarcastic in real life that doesn't mean i'm going to be sarcastic in every scenario. Equally when i play Hawke i don't spam a certain option no matter the quest i'm in. I don't see DAI as any improvement on DA2. They seemed intent on limiting player choice which just isn't enjoyable or realistic.

Well from your perspective Paragon and Renegade shouldn't be an issue either as some days you may feel more paragon, renegade, or neutral. I just don't see either of those systems as ideal, personally.

Truth be told is there was never player choice in BioWare games to begin with, just the illusion of player choice. If BioWare does a good job, then we shouldn't even really notice that there isn't player choice. The problem is that DAI had mixed results and led to a lot of choices that ultimately had similar impacts. To have a true suspension of disbelief, the corresponding outcomes half to match the various choices provided.

My only problem with Paragon/renegade was that there were articificial limits on my Choice(not having enough points to be able to select that choice) as well as sometimes the lack of clarity of what the actual result of the choice was before you selected it. At the end of the day i always did pick between the 3 choices based on scenario when i could. Even within the moralities the choices would be different. My character could take the more pragmatic renegade choices but sheer away from the more downright nasty/violent ones.

Disagree there always was player choice, at other times there was the illusion of player choice which isn't a problem if it is delivered well. Player choice is always going to be walled in my the constraints of the choices on offer but that doesn't mean the choice isn't there.


The problem with DAI is that they seemed intent on removing player's control of the character. Muted choice because they didn't want to trust players to characterise their character according to the situation.