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Post by Croatsky on Mar 9, 2017 9:36:35 GMT
Monogender species can't be transgender. They have only one gender, geez. There's nothing in their genetics to be another gender too. We're in a series with Asari eyebrows now. Anything goes with wacky Bioware! Eyebrows are a very minor genetics twerk that can happen. Different sex genitalia? That's some seriously massive genetics change!
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 9, 2017 10:01:27 GMT
We're in a series with Asari eyebrows now. Anything goes with wacky Bioware! Eyebrows are a very minor genetics twerk that can happen. Different sex genitalia? That's some seriously massive genetics change! Said gender, not sex. As in identifying as female or male instead of asari/mono. Asari in human relations may entertain the thought of being more of what a human may consider to be masculine or feminine, but to date none have been known to innately feel that they are male or female. The eyebrows thing was noting how it seems Bioware can and will just toss anything forward. Ardat Yakshi are a thing about the Asari now! Oh they kept a Prothean beacon the whole time! ..Eyebrows! That's what I meant.
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Post by ryerye17 on Mar 9, 2017 13:11:03 GMT
With all due respect to everyone in this thread, I think we need to shift this discussion away from human transgenders asap. This is not providing any answer -- or even context to the OP.
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Post by Morrigan on Mar 9, 2017 14:34:26 GMT
The asari are monogendered, but they mate with other species. They adapt to the culture of the species of their prospective partner. Liara plays the role of a human woman. The asari strippers conform to the ideals of the male gaze. You could have an asari taking a more traditionally masculine role in courting members of other species.
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Post by aionis on Mar 9, 2017 17:42:12 GMT
Aren't they monogender though?
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Post by Phantom on Mar 10, 2017 2:21:32 GMT
They have no gender, so they can't be transgender. All Asari are born female; culture wise they are mono-gendered. They only look with an female only world view. Also they bred by pathno-genesis; in short they can have partners with any genders or species and get pregant if they want too. Rest of the known species are bi gendered in the sense there is a male and female complmentary genders to reproduce
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Post by Panda on Mar 10, 2017 8:23:01 GMT
I guess Asari could be agender, but I can't wrap my head around Asari being transgender since male gender doesn't exist to them.
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Post by President of Boom on Mar 10, 2017 12:41:19 GMT
I don't understand why every alien species in the universe needs to aspire to be more like us. I absolutely hated that notion when it was being applied to the Geth and I would hate it just as much in case of a transgender Asari. Just to be clear, I'm perfectly fine with transgender characters, what I'm not fine with is the shoehorning of every unique species into the boring "human way is the best" mold.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 10, 2017 19:46:52 GMT
I don't understand why every alien species in the universe needs to aspire to be more like us. I absolutely hated that notion when it was being applied to the Geth and I would hate it just as much in case of a transgender Asari. Just to be clear, I'm perfectly fine with transgender characters, what I'm not fine with is the shoehorning of every unique species into the boring "human way is the best" mold. I hope Cora is even the reverse, and while technically pro-Human, is pretty much an Asari admirer (though on the balance away from being fetishist).
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Post by amehzing on Mar 11, 2017 0:38:23 GMT
Asari aren't really female though. If a species is monogendered they'll probably have female bodies so our codex used that to translate them.
For a species without sex gender isn't likely a thing either.
So I would be a bit annoyed if it was an asari to be honest. It just doesn't work for the lore IMO
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 11, 2017 21:29:10 GMT
Asari are just Asari. However they learn about and entertain concepts from others. That's like, a lot of what they're about.
I wouldn't bet on a 'transgender' Asari, but I would bet on an Asari that 'genderbends' to such a degree as to highly identify as masculine (human or non-human) or feminine (human or non-human). But they would be rare and could range from anything from a joke (like the 'you're part krogan!' stuff) to something rather more seriously taken.
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Post by derrame on Mar 12, 2017 1:56:17 GMT
impossible, asari are female only
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Post by Typhons Bioheat on Mar 12, 2017 4:41:33 GMT
You can't have transgenderism in a monogender species - Its preposterous, absurd and ridiculous to the extreme.
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Post by Xerxes52 on Mar 12, 2017 5:13:33 GMT
The transgender concept would not be applicable to a species like the asari, but I could see some asari taking behavioral traits from their non asari parent, much like Aethyta in ME2 (she had a krogan daddy IIRC).
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Post by opuspace on Mar 12, 2017 18:56:10 GMT
I think it'd be better to introduce the topic of transgender identities through the human species. It'd raise less questions like why would an Asari care about being a gender that doesn't exist for their race or whether their desire to be like a human male physique would be closer to a transspecies identity than gender focused.
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Post by Lorn on Mar 13, 2017 21:22:19 GMT
Asari are just Asari. However they learn about and entertain concepts from others. That's like, a lot of what they're about. I wouldn't bet on a 'transgender' Asari, but I would bet on an Asari that 'genderbends' to such a degree as to highly identify as masculine (human or non-human) or feminine (human or non-human). But they would be rare and could range from anything from a joke (like the 'you're part krogan!' stuff) to something rather more seriously taken. The problem with your posts is that you incorrectly assert that gender is a "concept created by society". It isn't.
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 13, 2017 22:48:43 GMT
Asari are just Asari. However they learn about and entertain concepts from others. That's like, a lot of what they're about. I wouldn't bet on a 'transgender' Asari, but I would bet on an Asari that 'genderbends' to such a degree as to highly identify as masculine (human or non-human) or feminine (human or non-human). But they would be rare and could range from anything from a joke (like the 'you're part krogan!' stuff) to something rather more seriously taken. The problem with your posts is that you incorrectly assert that gender is a "concept created by society". It isn't. Not my fault you don't know where gender comes from.
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Post by Lorn on Mar 13, 2017 23:01:29 GMT
The problem with your posts is that you incorrectly assert that gender is a "concept created by society". It isn't. Not my fault you don't know where gender comes from. Clearly you are not familiar with the case of Bruce/Brenda/David Reimer. The case that has been the very backbone of "gender theory" or decades. The case that was a complete and utter lie. www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dr_money_prog_summary.shtml
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Post by SwobyJ on Mar 13, 2017 23:14:08 GMT
I studied that case years ago.
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Post by Lorn on Mar 13, 2017 23:52:48 GMT
I studied that case years ago. And yet you still hold on to your faulty beliefs that gender is constructed by society. Clearly you didn't study it well enough.
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Post by Elsariel on Mar 14, 2017 1:09:03 GMT
Goddamn. That story made me sick to my stomach. That poor, poor boy.
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Post by kaind on Mar 14, 2017 1:29:46 GMT
I studied that case years ago. And yet you still hold on to your faulty beliefs that gender is constructed by society. Clearly you didn't study it well enough. Gender is a concept created by society.. and your case sucks, it's faulty. Meanwhile, back in Canada, things were not so good for the Reimer family. Brenda behaved in a distinctly masculine fashion. She liked running and fighting and climbing and loathed playing with dolls. She had no friends and was increasingly lonely as her twin Brian was embarrassed to play with her in front of his other friends. She hated going to visit Dr Money.That is sexist, there are plenty girls that like to fight, climb and loath playing with dolls. He insisted that to fully understand that she was a girl, she needed to grasp the difference between men and women There is none. The difference is from individual to individual. There are characteristics that are more common in one gender than the other but that is never an inherent difference.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Mar 14, 2017 2:11:28 GMT
Meanwhile, back in Canada, things were not so good for the Reimer family. Brenda behaved in a distinctly masculine fashion. She liked running and fighting and climbing and loathed playing with dolls. She had no friends and was increasingly lonely as her twin Brian was embarrassed to play with her in front of his other friends. She hated going to visit Dr Money.That is sexist, there are plenty girls that like to fight, climb and loath playing with dolls. wew
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