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Post by Ivory Samoan on Mar 16, 2017 10:44:34 GMT
After playing 6 hours of Andromeda, I can solidly say that RPS's John Walker is full of shit, and even the most jaded RPG gamer couldn't hate on the game as much as he did, without an agenda. I know Mass Effect really bloody well (as most of you do) after spending 1000s of hours in the universe, I can definitely say that if you love the series, you are going to at least like this, it's fucking great actually. Full write up incoming after full 10 hours, at the moment though: apart from a few niggly UI/mechanical things, it's looking to be a breathtaking adventure with a really, really good story and cast. Goonies meets Event Horizon, which then meets Babylon 5: in a nutshell.
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Post by goishen on Mar 16, 2017 13:56:43 GMT
This game is a shit show.
EDIT : Take note of the "lake effect" portion of the video (happens at the end). They call it input delay. It was the same for DAI.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:01:48 GMT
This game is a shit show. At least the early access and preview embargo helped people that were on the fence, right? People are saying different things of the early hours though, so for those that don't care seeing spoilers of the early missions I'd say it's better to see the videos of the first hours and judge them for yourself. I'm pretty sure you won't have a good opinion of them though.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 16, 2017 14:15:23 GMT
This game is a shit show. At least the early access and preview embargo helped people that were on the fence, right? People are saying different things of the early hours though, so for those that don't care seeing spoilers of the early missions I'd say it's better to see the videos of the first hours and judge them for yourself. I'm pretty sure you won't have a good opinion of them though. Thin is: It's not that people are not making the same positive and negative points, but for some either one or the other have more importance... and bad writing/characters in a BW IS a big one for many...
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:18:39 GMT
At least the early access and preview embargo helped people that were on the fence, right? People are saying different things of the early hours though, so for those that don't care seeing spoilers of the early missions I'd say it's better to see the videos of the first hours and judge them for yourself. I'm pretty sure you won't have a good opinion of them though. Thin is: It#s not that people are not making the same positive and negative points, but for some either one or the other have more importance... and bad writing/characters in a BW IS a big one for many... There are previews that don't believe the writing and characters are bad though. Expecially On the latter, it's a lot subjective, since even in the trilogy we have very different opinions on characters. As I said, those previews are good for the people on the fence to step down and wait for full reviews or trusted opinions on those features.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 14:20:04 GMT
This game is a shit show. EDIT : Take note of the "lake effect" portion of the video (happens at the end). They call it input delay. It was the same for DAI. IMO, this show is a bit of a shit show in it's own right. They spend the first 3 minutes just re-iterating that they can only talk about the beginning of the game. The one guy even tells the other that he's having difficulty enunciating his thoughts. Then the one guy says he's a big fan of the old trilogy for having played it all of twice. When a poll was done on the old BSN, many of the fans indicated that they have played it 15 times or more. Two playthroughs barely scratches the surface of it. Finally, how ow could they possibly say that ME1 had a CC where you could mold a male default Shepard into a better looking character. For one thing, one couldn't change the default character at all in the old Trilogy; and my first 10 tries at that CC were utter disasters resulting in characters that felt so much worse I went back to playing the default... and I know I wasn't alone at all in that experience because complaints about ME1's CC... and all three CC's actually were very common on the old BSN. Anyway... that's where I just stopped watching.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:24:02 GMT
YEah, I think it's fair to criticize MEA CC, I did in several thread, but praising the ME CC as some great CC is a bit of an exaggeration. It had more options, but it wasn't a good CC either way.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 16, 2017 14:24:48 GMT
Thin is: It#s not that people are not making the same positive and negative points, but for some either one or the other have more importance... and bad writing/characters in a BW IS a big one for many... There are previews that don't believe the writing and characters are bad though. Expecially On the latter, it's a lot subjective, since even in the trilogy we have very different opinions on characters. As I said, those previews are good for the people on the fence to step down and wait for full reviews or trusted opinions on those features. No, sorry, but there is such a thing as objectively bad/stupid writing... people might care about it or not, but that doesn't change the facts. Michel Bay movies have bad writing, they still are successful...
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 16, 2017 14:28:26 GMT
(Spoilers)
As if this woman couldn't get any worse.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:28:29 GMT
There are previews that don't believe the writing and characters are bad though. Expecially On the latter, it's a lot subjective, since even in the trilogy we have very different opinions on characters. As I said, those previews are good for the people on the fence to step down and wait for full reviews or trusted opinions on those features. No, sorry, but there is such a thing as objectively bad/stupid writing... people might care about it or not, but that doesn't change the facts. Michel Bay movies have bad writing, they still are successful... About writing, I should've clarified that I didn't mean it as the game doesn't have bad writing. There are stupid lines. But saying the whole script and dialogues are bad doesn't mean that they necessarily are. Previewers and people that tried the game gave different opinions on it. Which side should we trust?
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:29:04 GMT
As if this woman couldn't get any worse. I can't see the video, which character is it?
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 16, 2017 14:34:51 GMT
When in doubt, trust yourself, I guess...
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Post by isaidlunch on Mar 16, 2017 14:36:33 GMT
As if this woman couldn't get any worse. I can't see the video, which character is it? Still not working? It's Addison from the Nexus, the dialogue in the scene is atrocious.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:37:13 GMT
warbaby2: that's what I plan to do, though there is a reviewer I somehow trust. My expectations on the game aren't as high as expecting a masterpiece, in any case. I'm expecting a overall decent/good game, as many Bioware games. A determinant point in my enjoyment will be how well can I roleplay my characters.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:38:16 GMT
I can't see the video, which character is it? Still not working? It's Addison from the Nexus, the dialogue in the scene is atrocious. It might be my phone. It seems she's one of the side characters that has the most bad writing. Previewers didn't have a good opinion on her as well, compared to others.
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Post by Ieldra on Mar 16, 2017 14:51:50 GMT
Well...I've heard some variant of "really bad writing" from two reviews now. Of all things, this does not surprise me in the least. We'll see, but the probability is increasing that MEA is not for me. Edit: Also, some variant of "everyone's acting and speaking stupid". The master's hand is showing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 14:54:13 GMT
Haha. That review was a fairly performed parody/satire. Reading that was like watching an angry drunk rant about some perceived slight. John Walker, indeed.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 16, 2017 14:54:13 GMT
The biggest issue I have, after watching a few videos of the game, is the animations. Hopefully the day 1 patch will fix those
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 14:58:35 GMT
The biggest issue I have, after watching a few videos of the game, is the animations. Hopefully the day 1 patch will fix those The patch it's supposed to be in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 15:03:31 GMT
The biggest issue I have, after watching a few videos of the game, is the animations. Hopefully the day 1 patch will fix those I'm expecting that fixing the animations may be something that takes more than one patch to complete. They seem to have improved some in parts of the game but others are clearly still janky. Hopefully, they'll continue to make improvements beyond just the Day 1 patch.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 16, 2017 15:03:53 GMT
The patch it's supposed to be in. So what I saw in the videos already had the patch?
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 15:07:31 GMT
The patch it's supposed to be in. So what I saw in the videos already had the patch? Depends on the video, because some said they didn't have, but the recent ones should've had the patch. Maybe you can ask Bioware devs about it to be sure. Based on what people said, some animations got better form before, but they didn't fix everythings
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 15:11:43 GMT
There are previews that don't believe the writing and characters are bad though. Expecially On the latter, it's a lot subjective, since even in the trilogy we have very different opinions on characters. As I said, those previews are good for the people on the fence to step down and wait for full reviews or trusted opinions on those features. No, sorry, but there is such a thing as objectively bad/stupid writing... people might care about it or not, but that doesn't change the facts. Michel Bay movies have bad writing, they still are successful... True, but I'm taking the writing comments right now with a real grain of salt for a few reasons. The overall main story can't really be judged until at least some people have played through the entire main story line in the game. Even then, it might take a few people playing it through making different decisions before the "whole" of it can be fairly judged. RPGs, by design, are like several books built into one. Right now, all that can be fairly said is that some players are encountering some bad lines with enough frequency that they are of the opinion that the writing is not that good. I also think it is possible for a player who is somewhat intent on showing off the game in a bad way to deliberately try to select the "worst" line for the moment out of the range of dialogue choices they have been given... just as much as it is possible to intentionally "show off" the CC to create an absolutely hideous PC (which is what was obviously being done in the one video I watched). Sure, the writing is a concern... but IMO it's going to take a whole lot more "data" from different people before it can be fairly assessed.
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Post by goishen on Mar 16, 2017 15:42:44 GMT
"Alien gods" "Who ever heard of floating rocks?" "Just go with it!"
Good fucking grief. So, let me get this straight, let's just fuck science. Let's just go with the imaginary man in the sky as the cause of all of our problems? Oh my god, I didn't expect this to be DA 5. But this is the way that it's turning out.
Oh my fucking god.
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 16, 2017 15:50:42 GMT
I don't quite follow that. It's alien technology they don't understand, right? What's the problem with those lines?
The "alien gods" line was irony. From your other posts, I've formed the impression that you don't pick up on that very well. Is English not your first language, perhaps?
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