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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 15, 2017 23:33:15 GMT
I'm already in access and spent most of my time in the CC. I can 100% confirm that is a downgrade from DAI. For males you choose from several pre-made presets in which little can be changed. There are no beard options. No cheekbone and jaw line adjustment sliders, no eye shape options, eye brow options limited, eye color options limited and finally the worst offender is that skin tone options favor people of color more than pale people.
One thing I liked about DAI was the CC which was although not perfect, good enough. MEA is a downgrade.
Anyone else in access agree?
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Post by colfoley on Mar 15, 2017 23:36:53 GMT
Dutch thank you for opening this thread i was thinking of doing something similar.
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 15, 2017 23:37:18 GMT
I haven't started mine still downloading but i've seen screenshots of premade characters with beards so are you sure your not missing something?
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 15, 2017 23:42:37 GMT
I haven't started mine still downloading but i've seen screenshots of premade characters with beards so are you sure your not missing something? I mean real beards. Also long flowing manly hair isn't available either and a lot of sliders present in DAI CC are not present in MEA.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 15, 2017 23:48:25 GMT
I'm already in access and spent most of my time in the CC. I can 100% confirm that is a downgrade from DAI. For males you choose from several pre-made presets in which little can be changed. There are no beard options. No cheekbone and jaw line adjustment sliders, no eye shape options, eye brow options limited, eye color options limited and finally the worst offender is that skin tone options favor people of color more than pale people. One thing I liked about DAI was the CC which was although not perfect, good enough. MEA is a downgrade. Anyone else in access agree? Wo wo wo wo wo...wait No goatees + mustache options either??????
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 23:49:32 GMT
Wo wo wo wo wo...wait No goatees + mustache options either?????? There is a goatee i think. Not sure on the mustache though. the facial hair is as dissapointing as the original trilogy. Also we already have a character creator thread, maybe post in that Dutch. Also Hi Dutch!
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 15, 2017 23:52:30 GMT
I'm already in access and spent most of my time in the CC. I can 100% confirm that is a downgrade from DAI. For males you choose from several pre-made presets in which little can be changed. There are no beard options. No cheekbone and jaw line adjustment sliders, no eye shape options, eye brow options limited, eye color options limited and finally the worst offender is that skin tone options favor people of color more than pale people. One thing I liked about DAI was the CC which was although not perfect, good enough. MEA is a downgrade. Anyone else in access agree? Wo wo wo wo wo...wait No goatees + mustache options either?????? There's sorta a mustache option (1) but it really isn't impressive. Very thinish....
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 16, 2017 0:01:19 GMT
Pro tip: you can't make a vanderloo clone, not enough sliders to do it.
Bioware failed us in the CC. Might as well play as the shitty default Scott....oh gawd.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 16, 2017 0:02:37 GMT
Wo wo wo wo wo...wait No goatees + mustache options either?????? There's sorta a mustache option (1) but it really isn't impressive. Very thinish.... ok...but can I make it look like a decent set of mustache and goatee?
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Post by dreth on Mar 16, 2017 0:04:37 GMT
Features from a completely different game series arnt in Andromeda? *GASP*
This community will complain about anything.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 16, 2017 0:05:42 GMT
There's sorta a mustache option (1) but it really isn't impressive. Very thinish.... ok...but can I make it look like a decent set of mustache and goatee? No.
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Mar 16, 2017 0:07:30 GMT
Features from a completely different game series arnt in Andromeda? *GASP* This community will complain about anything. This doesn't make sense? Are you impaired in the head? Downgraded CC is an overall net negative. MEA should have had more or be at least on par with the CC quality of Inquisition since you know, both games are developed by the same company, using the same engine and assets...
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Post by adasirin on Mar 16, 2017 0:09:27 GMT
Putting fidelity and texture quality aside, ME:A's character creator is even a downgrade from ME1's in terms of customisation, let alone DAI's. At least in ME1 you could cycle through different eye/nose/mouth shapes and mix-and-match them, as well as adjust a (limited) series of sliders. In ME:A you're basically stuck with the provided presets and some very barebones sliders. You can make some minor, trivial adjustments with them, but good luck changing the eye/nose/mouth shape of the presets in any meaningful way.
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Post by Cannibal on Mar 16, 2017 0:10:18 GMT
I haven't started mine still downloading but i've seen screenshots of premade characters with beards so are you sure your not missing something? If the hair isn't at least 2cm off the face. It isn't a beard.
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Post by rahavan on Mar 16, 2017 0:10:57 GMT
I like how we got better hair but everything else was a step backwards lol
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 16, 2017 0:13:44 GMT
ok...but can I make it look like a decent set of mustache and goatee? No. Can you post a pic
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Post by 10k on Mar 16, 2017 0:14:26 GMT
Features from a completely different game series arnt in Andromeda? *GASP* This community will complain about anything. It has less options than ME1, a game that's in the same series and was released about 10 years ago.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 16, 2017 0:15:25 GMT
Features from a completely different game series arnt in Andromeda? *GASP* This community will complain about anything. There are even less customisation options than the original trilogy, for crying out loud. You're basically stuck with the predetermined presets. Sure, you can change the hairstyle and cover the face in some silly makeup, but this CC is completely and utterly lacking in tools to mold/change the facial features themselves. If it's a downgrade from games that came out in 2007, 2010 and 2012, then it's a problem.
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Post by dreth on Mar 16, 2017 0:24:09 GMT
Features from a completely different game series arnt in Andromeda? *GASP* This community will complain about anything. This doesn't make sense? Are you impaired in the head? Downgraded CC is an overall net negative. MEA should have had more or be at least on par with the CC quality of Inquisition since you know, both games are developed by the same company, using the same engine and assets... No, Andromeda should be judged by its content and thats it. Comparing it to other games just sets yourself up for being let down. Its not the games fault or even the dev's that your disappointed by the CC, when you build up idea of what it should be you cant appreciate it for what it is.
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Post by Wulfram on Mar 16, 2017 0:34:36 GMT
If it seemed like the more limited choices were a trade off for better quality and facial animations I think people might accept it, but that's really not the impression I get at the moment.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 0:35:16 GMT
This doesn't make sense? Are you impaired in the head? Downgraded CC is an overall net negative. MEA should have had more or be at least on par with the CC quality of Inquisition since you know, both games are developed by the same company, using the same engine and assets... No, Andromeda should be judged by its content and thats it. Comparing it to other games just sets yourself up for being let down. Its not the games fault or even the dev's that your disappointed by the CC, when you build up idea of what it should be you cant appreciate it for what it is. You might be right in this (I kind of agree), but the problem is that, regardless of the fact you can make good looking Ryders (from what I saw) the CC is severely limited in options, even without comparing it to other games.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 16, 2017 0:36:44 GMT
If it seemed like the more limited choices were a trade off for better quality and facial animations I think people might accept it, but that's really not the impression I get at the moment. The main problem is animations. Though yes, with the idea of having scanning faces with limited cc options, some of the presets should've been better.
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Post by dreth on Mar 16, 2017 0:44:28 GMT
No, Andromeda should be judged by its content and thats it. Comparing it to other games just sets yourself up for being let down. Its not the games fault or even the dev's that your disappointed by the CC, when you build up idea of what it should be you cant appreciate it for what it is. You might be right in this (I kind of agree), but the problem is that, regardless of the fact you can make good looking Ryders (from what I saw) the CC is severely limited in options, even without comparing it to other games. Well its just that 80% of the complaints i see about this game is "MEA doesnt do X like Y" and thats not a fair way to judge MEA at all.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 16, 2017 0:45:24 GMT
This doesn't make sense? Are you impaired in the head? Downgraded CC is an overall net negative. MEA should have had more or be at least on par with the CC quality of Inquisition since you know, both games are developed by the same company, using the same engine and assets... No, Andromeda should be judged by its content and thats it. Comparing it to other games just sets yourself up for being let down. Its not the games fault or even the dev's that your disappointed by the CC, when you build up idea of what it should be you cant appreciate it for what it is. Okay, I'll judge it purely by it's content. It fails at being a character creator because it lacks the fundamental ability to change and manipulate the facial features of the selected presets. For example, you like the eyes of one of the presets but don't like the nose? Maybe you imagine the face would look better with an impish, upturned nose? Well too bad, because you can't change it! The nose shape itself is essentially set in stone. Every single person who chooses preset 8 will have a character that basically looks identical. Every single person who chooses preset 3 will have a character that basically looks identical. And so on. The biggest deciding factor of what your character is going to look like by a wide, wide margin is which preset you choose. Not what slider settings you lovingly and painstakingly selected. It essentially fails at being a character creator at all. It's more of a "character chooser". Choose one of nine predetermined characters and change the hairstyle. Voila, you're done.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 16, 2017 1:00:57 GMT
Mike Laidlaw is god. He can fix it jk
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