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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Mar 16, 2017 15:59:48 GMT
Haha. Nah. I'm thinking there's a specific subset of Mass Effect 'fans' that really hope Bioware is panicking, because they still cry themselves to sleep over the ME3 ending. Which, and I'm repeating myself here, was a wonderfully poetic ending to a larger than life story. But yeah, gamers, entitlement, whining. It's part of the scene now. Bah. Your sense of irony is completely broken. You are whining about whiners, and are the self-proclaimed definitive arbiter of whether ME3's ending was good or not. You make me laugh. |
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Post by Iakus on Mar 16, 2017 16:04:40 GMT
Guys....It's ok! If this game is good does well, all the better for everyone... If this game tanks we get Shepard back Win win Unlikely, to say the least. And even if it did, I wouldn't want him back without a complete reboot. Too much baggage otherwise |
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Post by smilesja on Mar 16, 2017 16:22:51 GMT
I think everything will be fine. The main issues are CC and Animations. The true ME fans will know it's Bio-Ware and not be worried about the animations.... While previous Bioware games haven't exactly been free of janky facial animations, the criticism of ME:A's animations isn't overreaction. I just recently finished a playthrough of the original trilogy and there is far less jank than we've seen in ME:A promotional materials. That wonky animations are even showing up in advertising for ME:A likely points to it being a problem throughout the entire game, as that is the sort of thing marketing wouldn't show off in pre-release advertising. We had to wait until ME2 released to get Sheploo & Miranda's meme-fuel animations, for instance. Bad animations existed in the original trilogy but they weren't quite as widespread. I don't know if it is that Bioware is having greater problems with Frostbite than Unreal, or if they just tried to be more ambitious with Andromeda (most of the facial animations in ME3 are subtle), but something isn't working. The eyes of characters in ME:A also look dead, something that was not a problem in ME3. For a game series whose popularity rests largely on character interaction, it is a fairly major issue. Not necessarily a game-breaking one to be sure, but the criticism the animations have been getting is deserved. It is subpar not just for a Bioware game, but for any game released in 2017. Blah some people are saying it is a bad game based on the animations |
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Post by pantherdane on Mar 16, 2017 16:35:35 GMT
Noted flaws aside, I've played the game for a couple hours so far, and I really liked it. There's no cause for doom and gloom. I agree. Not perfect but its not bad. Still fun so apocalypse averted this time. . |
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Post by linksocarina on Mar 16, 2017 16:36:28 GMT
That is more or less what I figured for the game.
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Post by n7vakarian on Mar 16, 2017 16:38:04 GMT
I've played the game for 6 hours and I've enjoyed all of it.
The only negative so far is the CC which is a massive step back for Mass Effect
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Post by themikefest on Mar 16, 2017 16:40:32 GMT
Guys....It's ok! If this game is good does well, all the better for everyone... If this game tanks we get Shepard back Win win Even if Andromeda tanks, which I believe won't happen, I still like to see Shepard in another game. |
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Post by derrame on Mar 16, 2017 16:42:01 GMT
the facial animations are really bad, but, what else is bad in this game?
what can be so bad that there are so bad news ?
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Mar 16, 2017 16:46:11 GMT
This is nothing like the ME3 debacle in the slightest. You doom sayers are making everything seem worse than it is. All the criticisms (aside from the CC) have been the same thing for the past month or two. So I doubt the devs are overly surprised at the reception this games receiving. Many people are just going into the game salty or wanting to hate it because of the ME3 ending. Honestly just chill and form your own opinions about the game as if it wasn't made by bioware and as if the OT didn't exist. You might surprise yourself. As someone who has actually played a few hours, most of the criticism is valid. I have the opposite take. As someone who has played a few hours, most of it isn't. Most of the people on the internet are just bandwagoning the criticisms because it feels good to shit on things they'd never have been able to create themselves. That said, some are valid. None of them game-breakingly so. Unless your imagination is so atrophied it can't do a single moment of legwork. |
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Mar 16, 2017 16:57:57 GMT
I've got to say that while the articles are disturbing what is more jarring to me is the disconnect between the hip game writers and the people actually playing the game right now.
Overwhelmingly the writers seem underwhelmed by their experience of the early hours or outright in hatred of it like John Walker.
On the other hand the comments here by people playing the early access and on other gaming sites seems to be positive if with some niggling criticisms.
I am trying to fathom the disconnect. I don't want to be paranoid and suspect the writers have an ax to grind here like maybe they don't want or like EA's way of handling the embargoes and they want to put the boot in? Or are they just more jaded than the average player is or have higher expectations.
I haven't made up my mind about it but if I were a lead guy at BioWare I would panic because the opinion shapers do not appear to be cheering this game thus far.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Mar 16, 2017 16:58:06 GMT
What I'll say to you OP, is that once you play the game - you will realise this has all been a bit of a storm in a teacup. The game is fine, shit...it's way better than fine: it's very, very good. Cream rises to the top, ME:A will be OK, BioWare Montreal should know this too. Might be another DA2. We'll see. Haven't played it yet though but there's already 3 things I've heard about that are nightmare stuff: - awful CC - no companion customization - fucking planet scanning (of all things) Funny though all those 3 things have been something I've disliked about former ME games as well. Dragon Age is better, confirmed. See, wait till you've played it before touching your panic buttons mate: seriously. 1) CC is lacking, but isn't awful by any stretch of the imagination: you can make some great looking Ryders - check out r/ShareYourRyders. 2) Where companion options are lacking, they are injected into Ryder customisation: which is by far the deepest in the series (by a long way). 3) The planet scanning isn't as bad as ME2's, and the scanning tool is actually really good for world building and feels 'right' in a space game. Comments like "nightmare stuff" really fuck me off to be honest, jesus....hyperbolic lines like that make the gaming community look even more infantile than I previously thought possible (not a dig at you Zemgus, but at the general meme diarrhea storm that has erupted in GAF and on BSN). |
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Post by zered on Mar 16, 2017 17:03:39 GMT
Wat? The game is solid, not perfect but none the less it is really good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:14:37 GMT
While previous Bioware games haven't exactly been free of janky facial animations, the criticism of ME:A's animations isn't overreaction. I just recently finished a playthrough of the original trilogy and there is far less jank than we've seen in ME:A promotional materials. That wonky animations are even showing up in advertising for ME:A likely points to it being a problem throughout the entire game, as that is the sort of thing marketing wouldn't show off in pre-release advertising. We had to wait until ME2 released to get Sheploo & Miranda's meme-fuel animations, for instance. Bad animations existed in the original trilogy but they weren't quite as widespread. I don't know if it is that Bioware is having greater problems with Frostbite than Unreal, or if they just tried to be more ambitious with Andromeda (most of the facial animations in ME3 are subtle), but something isn't working. The eyes of characters in ME:A also look dead, something that was not a problem in ME3. For a game series whose popularity rests largely on character interaction, it is a fairly major issue. Not necessarily a game-breaking one to be sure, but the criticism the animations have been getting is deserved. It is subpar not just for a Bioware game, but for any game released in 2017. Blah some people are saying it is a bad game based on the animations Brilliant rebuttal. |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 16, 2017 17:20:02 GMT
Guys....It's ok! If this game is good does well, all the better for everyone... If this game tanks we get Shepard back Win win Unlikely, to say the least. And even if it did, I wouldn't want him back without a complete reboot. Too much baggage otherwise complete reboot....canonization of one ending and public admission of fucking up by Bioware....MINUTIA I say |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 16, 2017 17:21:28 GMT
Guys....It's ok! If this game is good does well, all the better for everyone... If this game tanks we get Shepard back Win win If this game tanks, like really tanks we won't be getting more Mass Effect. Which is probably what some fans want, which is ok. The franchise didn't need to live on, but i am so far glad that it did. I meant tanking be forecast standards....not as in "sells nothing at all and has superman 64 level reviews" |
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 16, 2017 17:21:45 GMT
Unlikely, to say the least. And even if it did, I wouldn't want him back without a complete reboot. Too much baggage otherwise complete reboot....canonization of one ending and public admission of fucking up by Bioware....MINUTIA I say Pass. Canonization, sure, but no more Shepard. If they canonized stuff most of my Shepards couldn't play anyway. |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 16, 2017 17:21:58 GMT
Guys....It's ok! If this game is good does well, all the better for everyone... If this game tanks we get Shepard back Win win Even if Andromeda tanks, which I believe won't happen, I still like to see Shepard in another game. you and me both |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 16, 2017 17:22:42 GMT
complete reboot....canonization of one ending and public admission of fucking up by Bioware....MINUTIA I say Pass. Canonization, sure, but no more Shepard. it's what a sensible execr would do If all fails bring back the fan favorite |
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 16, 2017 17:24:39 GMT
Even if that was true, I wouldn't care. Or buy.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Mar 16, 2017 18:35:09 GMT
Don't have any illusions, all that any bad timeline for ME:A would achieve would only see it getting the Deus Ex treatment, aka, EA tossing the whole franchise in the trash. Think about that the next time you're posting a 'hilarious' animation GIF, then wondering why word of mouth has 'somehow' affected sales and now the easily frightened publisher (like Sand People) are retreating and looking to hit the eject button.  /realtalk  |
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Post by ayenari on Mar 16, 2017 18:37:28 GMT
Guys....It's ok! If this game is good does well, all the better for everyone... If this game tanks we get Shepard back Win win Wishful thinking at best. If the marketing campaign for ME:A hasn't already proved that much there's still a lot of people that hold a grudge over ME3, and especially the endings. If the game tanks, no more Mass Effect is the more likely result. |
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Mar 16, 2017 18:41:38 GMT
Guys....It's ok! If this game is good does well, all the better for everyone... If this game tanks we get Shepard back Win win Wishful thinking at best. If the marketing campaign for ME:A hasn't already proved that much there's still a lot of people that hold a grudge over ME3, and especially the endings. If the game tanks, no more Mass Effect is the more likely result. too much money invested to let it go, EA would basically tell Bioware to make a ME game by the numbers and bring back Shepard or dissolve the franchise altogether. I know that the creative artistic ego of the BW head honchos is as massive as Miranda's butt....but they are not THAT stupid |
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Post by colfoley on Mar 16, 2017 18:45:52 GMT
Why bring back Shepard? For that matter why make a canon ending? I hope they aren't THAT stupid.
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Post by malgus on Mar 16, 2017 18:56:13 GMT
Wishful thinking at best. If the marketing campaign for ME:A hasn't already proved that much there's still a lot of people that hold a grudge over ME3, and especially the endings. If the game tanks, no more Mass Effect is the more likely result. too much money invested to let it go, EA would basically tell Bioware to make a ME game by the numbers and bring back Shepard or dissolve the franchise altogether. I know that the creative artistic ego of the BW head honchos is as massive as Miranda's butt....but they are not THAT stupid If they invested too much money in MEA and yet it tanked why would they risk more money in the mass effect series? They can just put that money elsewhere, nothing forces them to invest in a franchise that cannot recup his budget. Do you really think it would be the first franchise EA invested in and yet let it fall when it did not maked as much money as they wanted? Do you want to know the fucking HUGE amount of franchise that EA bought from different developper and after that they refuse to finance more of them when one game of that franchise was not profitable? Mass effect would certainly not be the first if that happen, there was numerous of those before. If MEA is not profitable, thre is no mass effect after that. MEA shall be the last. |
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