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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 15:25:04 GMT
For those of you folks, that played all or nearly all BioWARE games, how would you place Andromeda by simply how much you've liked them?
I am going to give it a shot (and I have put affiliated Obsidian/Black Isle games in too, because they are hard to split up, but I colored them blue):
1. Jade Empire 2. SWTOR (ALL 8 vanilla Class Stories + vanilla planetary Quests) 3. Mass Effect 2/3 (I can't split those two up no matter how hard I try, in my mind they are one game) 4. Andromeda 5. Dragon Age 2 with Legacy 6. Mass Effect 1 7. KOTOR2 with restored Content Mod 8. Dragon Age Origins with Awakening 9. NWN2 with MotB 10. Baldur’s Gate 2 with ToB 11. KOTOR 12. Baldur’s Gate 1 with ToSC 13. Dragon Age: Inquisition 14. Icewind Dale 2 15. Icewind Dale 1 16. NWN1 17. Planescape Torment
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Post by inert on Mar 29, 2017 15:30:21 GMT
This is purely my own favorites. If asked which are the best overall games, the list would look different.
1. KOTOR 2. ME1 3. Jade Empire 4. ME3 (this high only for ME3MP) 5. MEA (so far, not done yet) 6. ME2 (would be higher if rating overall gameplay) 7: KOTOR2 8. DAI
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Post by Teddie Sage on Mar 29, 2017 15:32:16 GMT
1 - DA2 2 - DAO 3 - DAI 4 - ME2 5 - ME3 6 - MEA 7 - ME1
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Post by ShadowAngel on Mar 29, 2017 15:36:38 GMT
Jade empire is you're #1? That's a first if I've ever seen one, dead serious. It's a good game though.
I haven't played all of biowares games, but from what I've played I'd list em like this:
ME:1 Baldurs gate Baldurs gate 2 Andromeda Jade empire ME3 DA:origins ME3 ME2 DA:I
I've dabbled in KOTOR but it never really stuck so I can't say if I liked/disliked it.
It's been ages since I've played baldurs gate + jade empire too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 15:37:28 GMT
1. BGII 2. DA:O 3. ME2 4. KotoR 5. DA:I with Trespasser 6. Mass Effect 7. Neverwinter Nights 8. Dragon Age II 9. ME:A 10. Jade Empire 11. Mass Effect 3 12. Baldurs Gate
Not sure if I should add Swtor to the list or not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 15:40:30 GMT
1. BGII 2. DA:O 3. ME2 4. KotoR 5. DA:I with Trespasser 6. Mass Effect 7. Neverwinter Nights 8. Dragon Age II 9. ME:A 10. Jade Empire 11. Mass Effect 3 12. Baldurs Gate Not sure i should add Swtor to the list or not. If you played it, feel free. Can even break out separate stories. Whatever feels right to you 😀
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Post by sky on Mar 29, 2017 15:45:06 GMT
Dragon Age: Origins Mass Effect 1 Mass Effect 2 KOTOR 1/2 Mass Effect Andromeda Baldur's Gate 2 Mass Effect 3 Dragon Age Inquisition Dragon Age 2
I don't hate ME3, the other ones are just better. Sadly I never had the chance to play Jade Empire when it came out.
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 29, 2017 15:49:33 GMT
Let's see... 1. BG2 2. KOTOR - KOTOR2 wasn't done by BioWare 3. BG 4. DAO 5. ME1-3 - rank about the same for me, since it's such a tight series 6, NWN - NWN2, again, not BioWare 7. DA2 8. SWTOR - because it should have been KOTOR 3, then it would rank MUCH higher 9. DAI 10. MEA Never really got into Jade Empire, even though it's supposed to be up there with their best games... also, the lead designer back then moved on and joined blizzard. I think many people that are fans of BioWare today don't even realize that they actually are just as much fans of Obsidian (who did the Icewind Dale games) or Black Isle (who did a quite few games with BW, but also made KOTOR2, NWN2, and Planescape: Torment solo).
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Post by ymirr on Mar 29, 2017 15:50:42 GMT
Kotor ME2 DA:O Jade Empire DA:I ME:A ME3 DA2 SWTOR ME1
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 29, 2017 15:55:03 GMT
1. Mass Effect 2 - Loved 2. Mass Effect 1 - Loved 3. Dragon Age Origins - Loved 4. Dragon Age 2 - Really liked 5. KOTOR - Really liked 6. Mass Effect 3 - Hated but decent 7. Mass Effect Andromeda (In progress) - Ambivalent fun 8. Dragon Age Inquisition - Love/Hate
OP has a serious confusion about what games BioWare developed lol.
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Post by cszoltan on Mar 29, 2017 15:59:29 GMT
1. ME3 2. DA:O 3. KotOR 4. ME1 5. MEA 6. ME2 7. DAI 8. DA2 9. SWTOR
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Post by melisan on Mar 29, 2017 16:02:17 GMT
1. BG2/ToB : Nothing can replace this spot 2. ME1 : I Sovereign. Best villain monologue of all time! 3. DAI : Inquisition is the Boss. Some of the best characters since ME1. Dorian, Sera, Iron Bull, Vivienne. What's not to love? 4. MEA : Exploration! Finally. Sara Ryder says some of the craziest things. Head canon Sara is gunning to replace FemShep. 5. ME3 : Citadel DLC! 6. DA2 : Team Kirkwall! Avelyn! Merryl! Isabella! Varric! What's not to like? Oh... Sebastian... right... 7. SWTOR : Only until the Knights of the Whatever Empire Whatever. 8. KOTOR : I liked KOTOR2 better. Loving KOTOR2 makes me dislike KOTOR. Still Mission was so cute. 9. DAO : I really don't like Alistair or Morrigan or.. Dwarf Whats his Name Oghren. 10. ME2 : Human Reaper??? Human Reaper??? What???? 11. BG : Heya It's me Imoen. Die Imoen Die Die. 12. NWN : Again. Obsidian did it better with NWN2. Do I like Obsidian better than Bioware? Not really. 13. JE : There was someone called Silver... Fox? And this other girl? And this fat man with dual axes. And a bald guy... I think.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Mar 29, 2017 16:03:36 GMT
Well, I recently went through and rated every RPG I've ever played across a variety of categories and this is the order the BioWare games appear in. I'm not sure the ratings completely reflect my opinion, but it is close.
MEA and BG2 are wildcards because I haven't finished either of them yet, so they may move up or down the list.
1. DAO 2. Kotor 3. BG2** 4. DAI 5. ME2 6. ME1 7. SWTOR 8. MEA** 9. JE 10. ME3 11. DA2
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Post by jackdaniel on Mar 29, 2017 16:03:54 GMT
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 29, 2017 16:03:56 GMT
1. Mass Effect 2 2. Mass Effect Andromeda 3. Dragon Age Inquisition 4. Mass Effect 1 5. Dragon Age Origins 6. Dragon Age 2 7. Mass Effect 3 8. SWTOR 9. Sonic Chronicles the Dark Brotherhood
I've also played NWN1 and all of it's expansions as well as KOTOR, but that was when I was around 10-12 years old, so I really can't compare it to the modern stuff.
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Post by henkiedepost on Mar 29, 2017 16:04:06 GMT
I'm not that far in the story yet but it goes something like:
1. ME2 2. ME3 3. MEA 4. ME1 5. DAI
Haven't played any of the other BW games.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 16:05:02 GMT
1. Mass Effect 2 - Loved 2. Mass Effect 1 - Loved 3. Dragon Age Origins - Loved 4. Dragon Age 2 - Really liked 5. KOTOR - Really liked 6. Mass Effect 3 - Hated but decent 7. Mass Effect Andromeda (In progress) - Ambivalent fun 8. Dragon Age Inquisition - Love/Hate OP has a serious confusion about what games BioWare developed lol. I color-coded obsidian/BI separately. It does not show up in the post?
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Post by Zemgus on Mar 29, 2017 16:07:25 GMT
1. DAI 2. DAO 3. SWTOR 4. ME1 5. ME2 6. DA2 7. MEA 8. ME3 9. JADE EMPIRE 10. KOTOR
Here's from best to last all BW games I've played so far. DA2 is only slightly ahead of MEA because I liked DA2's companions better and more importantly felt like I had more control over Hawke's personality. I don't think ME3 is a bad game at all either. I loved the ending and it had some great moments, but at the end of the day I disliked the autodialogue, thought some of the squadmates were super boring, didn't like how the sidequests were handled and running around with your weapon drawn all the time was annoying.
I really enjoy playing MEA and there's been some great moments, but so far I'm just disappointed by the lack of drama and how limited the CC was as well as most importantly how lacking the dialogue options were and how little control the player has over Ryder's personality and her relationships. Worst of any BW games, in what comes to dialogue options so far. Would have been so much better if that one thing was done better or heck even if they had instead used the old paragon/renegade system (anythings better than the current 'two shades of paragon' dialogue wheel). I like MEA, I really do, but it's just these few crucial key elements that are the cause of most of the disappointment for me.
KOTOR is last 'cause I only played it once and I liked KOTOR2 better, anyway.
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Post by cypherj on Mar 29, 2017 16:15:14 GMT
Wow, this may take a minute.
DA:O - Love and still play ME:1 - Love and still play KOTOR - Loved, couldn't get it to run once I upgraded from Windows 7 BG::2 - Loved . . Jade Empire KOTOR:II - If we're counting this as a Bioware game BG NW:2 DA:I ME:3 NW:1 . . ME:2 ME:A . . DA:2 Sonic Chronicles
I really don't want to rank ME:A right now, as a lot of my issues with the game are technical and may be fixed. If I'm forced to rank it right now, it would be in that third tier with ME:2
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 29, 2017 16:18:00 GMT
1. Mass Effect 2 - Loved 2. Mass Effect 1 - Loved 3. Dragon Age Origins - Loved 4. Dragon Age 2 - Really liked 5. KOTOR - Really liked 6. Mass Effect 3 - Hated but decent 7. Mass Effect Andromeda (In progress) - Ambivalent fun 8. Dragon Age Inquisition - Love/Hate OP has a serious confusion about what games BioWare developed lol. I color-coded obsidian/BI separately. It does not show up in the post? It does but they're still not BioWare games
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Post by warbaby2 on Mar 29, 2017 16:22:02 GMT
I color-coded obsidian/BI separately. It does not show up in the post? It does but they're still not BioWare games BioWare - especially what's left of it today - didn't really make any of those most praised games, not alone, at least. Either the creative talent behind them has moved on, or they did it in corporation with Black Isle or Obsidian.
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 29, 2017 16:30:38 GMT
1. Mass Effect 1 2. Mass Effect 2 3. Mass Effect 3 4. KOTOR 5. Jade Empire 6. Dragon Age Origins with Awakening 7. Mass Effect: Andromeda (not finished yet, may change) 8. Dragon Age 2 with Legacy 9. Dragon Age: Inquisition 10. SWTOR {Only tried it fro a few hours, might give it another shot eventually) 11. Baldur’s Gate 1/2 (never quite got through them) 12. NWN1 (only tried it a few hours, couldn't get into it)
All of the below were in the OP list, I just rearranged but are not BW games: KOTOR2 with restored Content Mod NWN2 with MotB Icewind Dale 2 Icewind Dale 1 Planescape Torment
If we were to include Obsidian games in the list (which a lot of those are), then Alpha Protocol would be within the top 3 and KotOR 2 would be just below KotOR 1.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 16:42:04 GMT
1. Mass Effect 1 2. Mass Effect 2 3. Mass Effect 3 4. KOTOR 5. Jade Empire 6. Dragon Age Origins with Awakening 7. Mass Effect: Andromeda (not finished yet, may change) 8. Dragon Age 2 with Legacy 9. Dragon Age: Inquisition 10. SWTOR {Only tried it fro a few hours, might give it another shot eventually) 11. Baldur’s Gate 1/2 (never quite got through them) 12. NWN1 (only tried it a few hours, couldn't get into it) All of the below were in the OP list, I just rearranged but are not BW games: KOTOR2 with restored Content Mod NWN2 with MotB Icewind Dale 2 Icewind Dale 1 Planescape Torment If we were to include Obsidian games in the list (which a lot of those are), then Alpha Protocol would be within the top 3 and KotOR 2 would be just below KotOR 1. It's not "we", it's you, so just go right ahead, and do whatever grouping feels right to you. I've never purchased/played AP, so can't really include it myself.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Mar 29, 2017 16:44:31 GMT
1. DAI 2. DA:O 3. ME 3 4. ME 2 5.MEA 6.ME 1 7.DA 2
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 29, 2017 16:48:14 GMT
1. Mass Effect 1 2. Mass Effect 2 3. Mass Effect 3 4. KOTOR 5. Jade Empire 6. Dragon Age Origins with Awakening 7. Mass Effect: Andromeda (not finished yet, may change) 8. Dragon Age 2 with Legacy 9. Dragon Age: Inquisition 10. SWTOR {Only tried it fro a few hours, might give it another shot eventually) 11. Baldur’s Gate 1/2 (never quite got through them) 12. NWN1 (only tried it a few hours, couldn't get into it) All of the below were in the OP list, I just rearranged but are not BW games: KOTOR2 with restored Content Mod NWN2 with MotB Icewind Dale 2 Icewind Dale 1 Planescape Torment If we were to include Obsidian games in the list (which a lot of those are), then Alpha Protocol would be within the top 3 and KotOR 2 would be just below KotOR 1. It's not "we", it's you, so just go right ahead, and do whatever grouping feels right to you. I've never purchased/played AP, so can't really include it myself. Oh, if you liked the ME games and you don't mind modern day spy thrillers, you should give it a try. I thought it was a fantastic game and vastly underrated. It's basically a Mass Effect 1 without a squad but with decent stealth gameplay and the modern day spy story, where you decide to play like any of the three big J.B.s of the genre, a suave James Bond, a professional efficient Jason Bourne or an aggressive Jack Bauer kinda guy. Great supporting cast of characters as well. I recommend it! EDIT: Also, if I can include anything, comparable to the BW style then the 3 Witcher games also intermingle and build the top 7, together with AP and the ME trilogy. But I think now we are getting dangerously close to anarchy in these posts.
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