Make Suvi Bi

It was referenced in relation to lesbian romantic scenes being portrayed as sexless in the Suvi thread. Fade to black was part of the discussion I believe but not in the direct quote. It seems many thought the Suvi scene wasn't explicit enough. Which is fair and not gross at all. :noo:

bsn.boards.net/post/424387/thread

It appears you were part of the conversation...

And right now, you're being an arse.

This is no longer a worthwhile conversation, and I went back, it wasn't Crim who made it so.

Do me a favor, pal. Fuck off.

Keep doing yourself a favor.
Did I say they made the statement?

you need to check yourself.

Huh, cute, sounds more like, if she's available to Scott she'll surely open dem legs. Since yunno, you imagine lesbian relationships as deathbeds and needing a dick to salvage them. Cos, every woman needs a penis in her life.

My idea was giving players a choice, whilst you immediately went snarky and went on about creating what you refereed to as "heteronormative paradise", as if somebody is obliged to wake certain pods, or any pods at all for that matter.  So don't try to weasel your way out of this one. Funny thing that ppl like that are the ones to talk about "inclusiveness"...



Do YOU actually believe this? Or it is just what an lgbt analogues of Anita are telling you? For example I have traveled in a lot of Europe and lived in 3 different countries there, and literally everywhere I went I saw gay couples regularly, whether walking, holding hand, kissing on doing something bordering on having sex in public places, and have not seen once that it caused any sort of trouble for them or ppl around them generally really cared for what those couples were doing.  You do realize that it is not just gay and people of colour that can get attacked, but everyone for various resons depending on the context of time, place and situation? Yet ppl like you make it sound almost as if something similar to kukluxclan squads are patrolling every major inhabited area on a constant hunt for gay ppl. Thats bullshit. Maybe you should try to be less selfcentric and accept that if you want to have EQUALITY and be treated as EQUAL then you should stop playing victims and constantly trying to attract additional attention to yourself? Let me give you a perspective: I had a 2 work colleague one of whom was gay and another m2f transgender, I had 2 instructors who were a gay couple, a friend of my wife at work is a gay living with another guy, and ultimately I had a barber who is gay. Now out of those 7 ppl, barber guy was the only one always getting in trouble and complaining about "cruelty of this world to gay people". Guess why?  Because 6 others lived their normal life and went on with their buisness as any normal person would, while the barber guy was a troublemaker in no small part due to being a sort of "gay in your face" type of person - always pushing his gayness onto others, arguing how much gay ppl are better than other, and doing things like walking naked on a balkony that overlooks market of a predominantly Muslim populated area, and then complaining at the angry Muslim crowd below. Seriously, such ppl need to get a grip. Yet he was absolutely convinced that it all was strictly because of homofobia. Really?...



Interesting characters with rich backstory. Characters that player can fell genuine emotion towards. Characters that feel alive. Characters that player wants to spend time with and maybe romance them. Characters that when the game end, player will really miss.  Seeing how you try to build all your arguments around gender and sex, and put it into perspective of some sort of struggle of genders/sexes, it is pretty clear who has skewed view of things here... Funny that the very same ppl try to preach tolerance and inclusion...

but... penis is good, you should try it! 

I imagine it's as complex as nature allows. None the less, one thing at a time and if resources are possibly going to be spent on Suvi's romance then suggesting making her Bi is a legit option. Reasons can vary and be numerous. There doesn't have to be just one.  Neither does it need to be a cause of activism and making some statement about sexual relations as in your statement there or whatever it's suppose to be. Cos that's not what I'm saying, that's your cross you're bearing and beating.

are you talking from experience?

Judging by Gil it seems that everybody is being pushed to have kids. Besides you don't need literally every single person to have one for repopulation to be viable. Some people will have two or three, some will be like Gil, and then I'm sure others would find a surrogate mother and then raise the kid with their partner. Interspecies couples, I imagine, would most likely end up with one from both parents. 

That's a pretty weak reason for gay / transgender characters to not be in it. 

Jill? Is that you?

Because I wanted to tell Jill, "WE NEED POPULATION CONTROL BECAUSE WE CAN BARELY AFFORD TO EAT."

If you want a good colony, you should have 20% breeding folks and 80% useful gay people who can build up the machinery and don't want kids.

Except that there is always a chance that those 80% of gay ppl will dedicate most of their time to drama about how homofobic that heterodominated world is, instead of building machinery.