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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 14:26:38 GMT
I'd think so too if I didn't see female Ryder presets. Cryo stasis had some unfortunate effects on some subjects. Cryo turned them all into Neanderthals?
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Post by NUM13ER on Apr 7, 2017 14:32:06 GMT
Cryo stasis had some unfortunate effects on some subjects. Cryo turned them all into Neanderthals? Fraid so. It even left some the inability to emote properly and focus their eyes on who they were talking to. It's rather tragic but such is the price of crossing dark space.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 14:36:21 GMT
Cryo turned them all into Neanderthals? Fraid so. It even left some the inability to emote properly and focus their eyes on who they were talking to. It's rather tragic but such is the price of crossing dark space. Addison is pretty lucky with just getting that whole tired face thing then.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Apr 7, 2017 14:43:44 GMT
Well... if Ryder follows the decades-outdated dietary advice that Lexi emails to the crew, we should expect them to be pretty round in the middle!
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Post by catalina on Apr 7, 2017 14:51:57 GMT
Cryo turned them all into Neanderthals? Fraid so. It even left some the inability to emote properly and focus their eyes on who they were talking to. It's rather tragic but such is the price of crossing dark space. Hey, it's cryos fault all the Asari look the same
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 7, 2017 14:54:47 GMT
Fraid so. It even left some the inability to emote properly and focus their eyes on who they were talking to. It's rather tragic but such is the price of crossing dark space. Hey, it's cryos fault all the Asari look the same
All blue people look the same anyway, and they all know each other.
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Post by heathenoxman on Apr 7, 2017 15:13:34 GMT
The gravity pull on fat people disrupts mass effect fields.
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Post by tantumdicverbo on Apr 7, 2017 15:39:11 GMT
I agree, I want a morbidly obese squadmate that refuses to go on missions every time I select them because they are too busy chomping on Doritos and playing World of Warcraft to get off their fat arse and do some work. If they interrupt conversation to remind you of what gender they used to be, you have a first-class Bioware romance right there!
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Post by mattvm on Apr 7, 2017 15:45:55 GMT
I "love" (or rather find it kinda sad, almost pitiful) how the creator of the thread is mainly just trying to invalidate gay and trans people's complaints about being poorly represented than anything else.
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Post by mattvm on Apr 7, 2017 15:49:19 GMT
By the way, there were a couple of fat people in Inquisition. You'd hardly ever see them and they all probably had the same design, but they were there and it probably wouldn't have been that hard to include them in Andromeda, but I actually think people justifying why we don't see fat people in the game are coming up with some good points.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 15:51:59 GMT
I "love" (or rather find it kinda sad, almost pitiful) how the creator of the thread is mainly just trying to invalidate gay and trans people's complaints about being poorly represented than anything else. well, in reality gays and trans are light-years ahead in terms of representation than overweight people in Mass Effect franchise. Would you deny that? So in that perspective their complaints about being poorly represented are laughable at best.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 7, 2017 15:52:12 GMT
"Banzai!" means "a 1000 years!" or so? Yeah, that is some really good weight to lifecycle ratio right there. Banzai! for every Krogan to Andromeda! following your logic, salarians then should not have been allowed onto expedition. Why? Efficient reproduction. Multiple offspring per clutch. Fast growth rate, maturity, education and waste body recycling. Fast turnover isn't necessarily bad. And egg clutches have good mass per individual. Easy to freeze and all. No it's rather puzzling they allowed any human on the Initiative - that is mostly dead weight.
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 7, 2017 15:57:28 GMT
LBG representation is just about having some gay/bi characters and relationships somewhere in the world, and only became a thing because so few TV shows, movies or games had any at all. It's not about having an exact copy of yourself, or any person, in game. So you're not going to invalidate it with some false comparison to fat people. It doesn't work for a number of reasons. Most obviously of all, adding dialogue or story elements to indicate a character is gay/bi is easy. Adding a different body model for every single body type is not. Your post doesn't prove a point and it isn't clever.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 7, 2017 16:05:19 GMT
Perhaps most of the colonists are from western Europe, and not the USA? Anyway, the codex in the trilogy already explained it. Fat people are unhealthy and luckily people became healthier 150 years from now. Trans people are mentally unhealthy. If humanity genetically removed the very ability to obese, why not fix crazy people who think they are something they aren't? Why not fix gay people too. That's a genetic brain disorder right. Seems like a liability...
Talk shit and make jokes about fatties all you like. But Bioware's precious gays and trans? Oh, no no noooooo!!!! OFF LIMITS!!!
(licks lips in anticipation of meal)
I blame people like you for the lack of Asari dancers in this game. You stole that away from me.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 7, 2017 16:06:05 GMT
following your logic, salarians then should not have been allowed onto expedition. Why? Efficient reproduction. Multiple offspring per clutch. Fast growth rate, maturity, education and waste body recycling. Fast turnover isn't necessarily bad. And egg clutches have good mass per individual. Easy to freeze and all. No it's rather puzzling they allowed any human on the Initiative - that is mostly dead weight. Now you contradicting yourself. First you praise virtually infertile Krogan for being good age-to-weight ratio, then you completely switching over and praising salarians for fertility. You started talking about one but not the other, so how about sticking to that instead of jumping everywhere you feel you argument will look more comfortable? We can teorycraft all day long on who should and who shouldn't have come to an expedition for various reasons whether based on race, culture, species, ethnicity, sexual orientation, biology and what not, and get nowhere. The thing is, currently there is no indication in established ingame expedition of any objective reason why every single human needs to have athletic physique except that BW decided simply that overweight ppl are not worth enough to be cared about. Yet I am sure as hell that having people of different body proportions would had created much more ingame visual and character diversity than some trans that used to be called Stephan.
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Post by peabuddie on Apr 7, 2017 16:11:50 GMT
Are there any overweight people in Andromeda? Because I don't remember seeing one. Seeing how those people are much more common that gays and transsexuals combined, one would think that with all the "representation", "inclusion" and all that unneeded bs BW spends so much attention over instead of focusing on making a good game, one cant help but get triggered over the lack of peple with imperfect body proportions - namely overweight people. Seeing how BW intentionally made female unattractive to ponder to feminists to supposedly not make some women upset of not being on par beauty-wise with ingame characters, not having fat people in game looks very sloppy and insulting in that context to say the least. So following BW own logic I must ask - why is it acceptable to not only not represent overweight people in game, while also making them suffer psychologically by being surrounded by characters of perfect athletic proportions everywhere, but at the same time treating much smaller demographics with official apologies because one line of dialogue in entire game and what not, as if they have some sort of privilege that other people don't? Clearly there are double standards involved. Seeing how all sort of minorities manage squeeze a lot of completely unnecessary things and views into game by a merit of complaining and shouting loudest alone, I think will only be fair that the issue of not having any other but athletically built people in Andromeda also needs to be constantly brought forward and highlighted, until BW offers apology and properly represent overweight people in their new game. #fatlivesmatter If I were recruiting for a multi-trillion dollar project to travel to a distant galaxy, I wouldn't recruit overweight, unhealthy people. Only the fittest, smartest and most likely to survive and thrive would be recruited. An enormous project like that would not be PC, equal opportunity enterprise. It would be designed with the greatest possibility of success.
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Post by degs29 on Apr 7, 2017 16:13:12 GMT
They didn't pass NASA's...I mean the Initiative's...stringent fitness tests. Angara and Kett don't get fat.
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Post by Pounce de León on Apr 7, 2017 16:16:07 GMT
Why? Efficient reproduction. Multiple offspring per clutch. Fast growth rate, maturity, education and waste body recycling. Fast turnover isn't necessarily bad. And egg clutches have good mass per individual. Easy to freeze and all. No it's rather puzzling they allowed any human on the Initiative - that is mostly dead weight. Now you contradicting yourself. First you praise virtually infertile Krogan for being good age-to-weight ratio, then you completely switching over and praising salarians for fertility. You started talking about one but not the other, so how about sticking to that instead of jumping everywhere you feel you argument will look more comfortable? We can teorycraft all day long on who should and who shouldn't have come to an expedition for various reasons whether based on race, culture, species, ethnicity, sexual orientation, biology and what not, and get nowhere. The thing is, currently there is no indication in established ingame expedition of any objective reason why every single human needs to have athletic physique except that BW decided simply that overweight ppl are not worth enough to be cared about. Yet I am sure as hell that having people of different body proportions would had created much more ingame visual and character diversity than some trans that used to be called Stephan. Have you ever heard of biodiversity`?
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 16:17:06 GMT
Are there any overweight people in Andromeda? Because I don't remember seeing one. Seeing how those people are much more common that gays and transsexuals combined, one would think that with all the "representation", "inclusion" and all that unneeded bs BW spends so much attention over instead of focusing on making a good game, one cant help but get triggered over the lack of peple with imperfect body proportions - namely overweight people. Seeing how BW intentionally made female unattractive to ponder to feminists to supposedly not make some women upset of not being on par beauty-wise with ingame characters, not having fat people in game looks very sloppy and insulting in that context to say the least. So following BW own logic I must ask - why is it acceptable to not only not represent overweight people in game, while also making them suffer psychologically by being surrounded by characters of perfect athletic proportions everywhere, but at the same time treating much smaller demographics with official apologies because one line of dialogue in entire game and what not, as if they have some sort of privilege that other people don't? Clearly there are double standards involved. Seeing how all sort of minorities manage squeeze a lot of completely unnecessary things and views into game by a merit of complaining and shouting loudest alone, I think will only be fair that the issue of not having any other but athletically built people in Andromeda also needs to be constantly brought forward and highlighted, until BW offers apology and properly represent overweight people in their new game. #fatlivesmatter If I were recruiting for a multi-trillion dollar project to travel to a distant galaxy, I wouldn't recruit overweight, unhealthy people. Only the fittest, smartest and most likely to survive and thrive would be recruited. An enormous project like that would not be PC, equal opportunity enterprise. It would be designed with the greatest possibility of success. So everyone's argument is overweight people can't be smart, capable, adaptable, skilled, and successful enough to be a part of the AI? Well I suppose in the end BW agrees, that's why no fat people in Andromeda.
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Post by ticktak77 on Apr 7, 2017 16:19:30 GMT
They wouldn't have taken overweight people with them to Andromeda.
Overweight People may not have fit in cryo pods - Problem.
Overweight People would have to eat more - Problem.
Overweight People may need more medical attention and resources - Problem.
Overweight People would not be ideal sexual partners for reproduction - Problem.
So they left them all behind for the Reapers.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 16:21:17 GMT
Overweight People would not be ideal sexual partners for reproduction - Problem. Hehe, considering some of the other themes in the game you might want to leave that one out.
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Post by projectpatdc on Apr 7, 2017 16:32:39 GMT
Bioware wants to be inclusive of the mentally unhealthy people as opposed to the physically unhealthy people??? That would be my answer. Initiative apparently had an extensive screening process which I imagine barred people who weren't physically in shape to contribute and survive in What could be harsh situations. Think about how astronauts have to be in top shape.
But then why allow gay people who have a high chance of not reproducing? I guess that's why Gil talks about reproducing bc he is not against it even though he doesn't find women attractive
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 7, 2017 16:47:16 GMT
Initiative apparently had an extensive screening process which I imagine barred people who weren't physically in shape to contribute and survive in What could be harsh situations. Think about how astronauts have to be in top shape. People in Mass Effect don't have to endure the physical hardships astronauts of our time do like the immense G-forces of liftoff nor survive for long periods of time in zero gravity environments. Those same requirements wouldn't apply to the task of the AI.
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Post by adelthorne on Apr 7, 2017 16:50:17 GMT
They fixed that in cryo. 600 years of crya diet;)
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Post by steppinrazor on Apr 7, 2017 17:03:57 GMT
Sorry, my blackness is NOT the same as the next guy being fat, lol.
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