This game is NOT an RPG. It is IMPOSSIBLE to rolepay

i don't know. Being a Ryder who does not like killing joking about liking killing when Ryder tells jokes sounds like a very Ryder thing to do.

But this has always been part of the Mass Effect series. So why is it an issue now?

In an RPG with a voiced protagonist this is going to be the case. Shepard also had auto- dialogue. Unless you want a voiceless protagonist(which I wouldn't mind to be honest) this is likely here to stay. 

I haven't played through Mass Effect 1 in about a year so I don't remember either. But I know he has it in Mass Effect 2( would block options if you went too high up one side) and 3. I get that Ryder sarcasm can be annoying and gets in the way of a character you want to make but this is hardly anything new for Mass Effect because Shepard was the same way. You can't really make a sarcastic Shepard at all but at least in Andromeda you can make Ryder serious.

Mass Effect is not that kind of RPG.

Used to be. I had several Shepards who were very varied in personality (obviously within the limitations of a voiced rpg). War weary but practical and determined to do the right thing / chirpy and optimistic / cold , ruthless professional / borderline psychopath.
I'll freely admit that much of this is in my head but the game allowed me that freedom (barring the very occasional line of auto dialogue).
Ryder, however, is Ryder.

That's basically what we are discussing. The limitations of the dialogue system. Ideally you would have been able to play him as someone with more humor. Just because he was military and a hero or whatever they would classify him as doesn't mean that he/she would not have a sense of humor. Clearly he/she did in Citadel DLC. Probably a few other spots as well, but it was the lack of the dialogue system. At least now Ryder does have more variations. But ideally the variations would stick to the selections given and not change the meaning or tone so that what you want to say doesn't feel different enough that you say 'what. What?' That's the whole point of RPing. I think the more options that are offered, the more people enjoy their RP experience.


I remember dragon age origins felt like it had a nice range of selections, but they were all written, not spoken. Here, we do at least get more selections now to choose from, but the accuracy and intent of the tone we choose needs some more fine tuning. Hopefully for the next game. 

No one is arguing that the dialogue shouldn't be improved it clearly needs more renegade options. My problem is saying this game is no longer a RPG because of how it was done in MEA when we have more control over Ryder than we ever did with Shepard. They need to make it more like Dragon Age imo.

I'll lose it if they go the Witcher route. Witcher 3 is a great game but I don't need every game trying to be the Witcher.  I got enough of that when everyone was trying to be the next "Skyrim". 

The Warden not having a voice gives more freedom to the players.

How so? I can pretend different tones are associated with the text of the PC's lines, but it's just pretend. The NPCs will only hear the tone the writer gave the PC, not the one I pretend the PC used.