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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 10, 2017 6:49:36 GMT
As long as Jaal fans amplify and show their support of the m/m fans with the understanding of why some LGBT fans want Bi Jaal, rather than prioritizing their own discomfort with the idea of Jaal being made bi in a hypothetical situation. And by amplify and show support, I mean unconditionally. My concern is them breaking him even more. Weird shit happened when they patched the game before launch and knowing BW, it'll only get worse. To be fair, that'll probably happen regardless, considering just how many random bugs the recent patch caused.
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My concern is them breaking him even more. Weird shit happened when they patched the game before launch and knowing BW, it'll only get worse. To be fair, that'll probably happen regardless, considering just how many random bugs the recent patch caused. They removed Scott's friendship icon with Jaal and his flirt, and Sara's first flirt. Only thing this new patch did was slow down the romance. I would love to know why they removed Scott's stuff. I doubt the reviewers were lying about it. Also by doing what they did to Scott, it affected Sara for some reason.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 10, 2017 7:18:33 GMT
To be fair, that'll probably happen regardless, considering just how many random bugs the recent patch caused. They removed Scott's friendship icon with Jaal and his flirt, and Sara's first flirt. Only thing this new patch did was slow down the romance. I would love to know why they removed Scott's stuff. I doubt the reviewers were lying about it. Also by doing what they did to Scott, it affected Sara for some reason. I meant that, in general, the patches are probably going to cause more bugs that affect romance regardless of whether a Bi Jaal is among any of those patches.
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They removed Scott's friendship icon with Jaal and his flirt, and Sara's first flirt. Only thing this new patch did was slow down the romance. I would love to know why they removed Scott's stuff. I doubt the reviewers were lying about it. Also by doing what they did to Scott, it affected Sara for some reason. I meant that, in general, the patches are probably going to cause more bugs that affect romance regardless of whether a Bi Jaal is among any of those patches. Oh yeah Sara is the invisible woman during movie night now lol
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I meant that, in general, the patches are probably going to cause more bugs that affect romance regardless of whether a Bi Jaal is among any of those patches. Oh yeah Sara is the invisible woman during movie night now lol Oh, I was wondering about it. They had that weird close up of Jaal in the end sitting in a weird position, so I sort of wondered if it was a missing romantic reference. Never seen the movie night before. Also, wanted to note, that while Jaal banters with the females more in what can be construed as flirting manner, there are three females on the team, and only one other male, Liam. He is pretty friendly with Liam in my experience, no different than with Vetra. It's just an artifact of having mostly female crew, particularly if you play a female Ryder. * (that imbalance is one of my very few pouts in respect to Andromeda, and why initially I wanted to play a Male Ryder. But, the gate on Jaal led me to playing a F!Ryder, because it is an essential romance with the Angaran rep on the crew. And that's the reason why I am a strong supporter of a bi Jaal. The genre lands itself very strongly to having a significant lovestory with someone you meet upon arrival to the new Galaxy, and the males do not get that. * Unless you are one of those rare people that considers Asari not to be female (in which case Jaal flirts with non-females).
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Oh yeah Sara is the invisible woman during movie night now lol Oh, I was wondering about it. They had that weird close up of Jaal in the end sitting in a weird position, so I sort of wondered if it was a missing romantic reference. Never seen the movie night before. Also, wanted to note, that while Jaal banters with the females more in what can be construed as flirting manner, there are three females on the team, and only one other male, Liam. He is pretty friendly with Liam in my experience, no different than with Vetra. It's just an artifact of having mostly female crew, particularly if you play a female Ryder. * (that imbalance is one of my very few pouts in respect to Andromeda, and why initially I wanted to play a Male Ryder. But, the gate on Jaal led me to playing a F!Ryder, because it is an essential romance with the Angaran rep on the crew. And that's the reason why I am a strong supporter of a bi Jaal. The genre lands itself very strongly to having a significant lovestory with someone you meet upon arrival to the new Galaxy, and the males do not get that. * Unless you are one of those rare people that considers Asari not to be female (in which case Jaal flirts with non-females). But the Asari are the best!
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Oh yeah Sara is the invisible woman during movie night now lol Oh, I was wondering about it. They had that weird close up of Jaal in the end sitting in a weird position, so I sort of wondered if it was a missing romantic reference. Never seen the movie night before. Also, wanted to note, that while Jaal banters with the females more in what can be construed as flirting manner, there are three females on the team, and only one other male, Liam. He is pretty friendly with Liam in my experience, no different than with Vetra. It's just an artifact of having mostly female crew, particularly if you play a female Ryder. He's more than just "friendly" with Cora, when he compliments her and talks about watching her he says "the mind wants what it wants". There's his banter about Peebee (if he's not romanced by Sara) where he admits he finds himself "looking back" when she looks at him with interest. Pretty different from the way he behaves around Liam. And there's the part after his loyalty mission when Sara asks about his new scar and he wonders if it'll make him more appealing to their female friends. How could you forget Drack...
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Oh, I was wondering about it. They had that weird close up of Jaal in the end sitting in a weird position, so I sort of wondered if it was a missing romantic reference. Never seen the movie night before. Also, wanted to note, that while Jaal banters with the females more in what can be construed as flirting manner, there are three females on the team, and only one other male, Liam. He is pretty friendly with Liam in my experience, no different than with Vetra. It's just an artifact of having mostly female crew, particularly if you play a female Ryder. He's more than just "friendly" with Cora, when he compliments her and talks about watching her he says "the mind wants what it wants". There's his banter about Peebee (if he's not romanced by Sara) where he admits he finds himself "looking back" when she looks at him with interest. Pretty different from the way he behaves around Liam. And there's the part after his loyalty mission when Sara asks about his new scar and he wonders if it'll make him more appealing to their female friends. How could you forget Drack...Haha I remember on Cora's loyalty mission he said that about his mind focusing on her body, then later wanted to know if she was "hot" because he was sitting too close to her. He turned Cora into a giggling mess! Haven't gotten the Vetra banter yet, but he mentions wanting to touch her body.
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Oh, I was wondering about it. They had that weird close up of Jaal in the end sitting in a weird position, so I sort of wondered if it was a missing romantic reference. Never seen the movie night before. Also, wanted to note, that while Jaal banters with the females more in what can be construed as flirting manner, there are three females on the team, and only one other male, Liam. He is pretty friendly with Liam in my experience, no different than with Vetra. It's just an artifact of having mostly female crew, particularly if you play a female Ryder. * (that imbalance is one of my very few pouts in respect to Andromeda, and why initially I wanted to play a Male Ryder. But, the gate on Jaal led me to playing a F!Ryder, because it is an essential romance with the Angaran rep on the crew. And that's the reason why I am a strong supporter of a bi Jaal. The genre lands itself very strongly to having a significant lovestory with someone you meet upon arrival to the new Galaxy, and the males do not get that. * Unless you are one of those rare people that considers Asari not to be female (in which case Jaal flirts with non-females). But the Asari are the best! :rollseyes: Oh, absolutely! Peebs is sooo much better than, say a male Quarian with the same subplot! So cool to see a techie Asari instead of a purely biotic Asari! Who needs another techie Quarian, sheesh. Plus, Lexi is just not enough of Asari representation. It's not a mass Effect game unless you don't have three slots on the crew booked for Kro-Asa-Tur. Okay, I am not bitter or anything.
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Oh, I was wondering about it. They had that weird close up of Jaal in the end sitting in a weird position, so I sort of wondered if it was a missing romantic reference. Never seen the movie night before. Also, wanted to note, that while Jaal banters with the females more in what can be construed as flirting manner, there are three females on the team, and only one other male, Liam. He is pretty friendly with Liam in my experience, no different than with Vetra. It's just an artifact of having mostly female crew, particularly if you play a female Ryder. He's more than just "friendly" with Cora, when he compliments her and talks about watching her he says "the mind wants what it wants". There's his banter about Peebee (if he's not romanced by Sara) where he admits he finds himself "looking back" when she looks at him with interest. Pretty different from the way he behaves around Liam. And there's the part after his loyalty mission when Sara asks about his new scar and he wonders if it'll make him more appealing to their female friends. How could you forget Drack...Drack is "monster" class asexual companion, rather than male or female companion in terms of romantic prospects/drool. I know some say otherwise, but that's how BioWare built their teams in SWTOR, and I think it applies here. Same structure, only with a bonus Asari. Attraction to an Asari is pansexual, and maybe he just does not like Liam that way. Maybe he just prefers pastel shades over darker saturated colours.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 12:39:47 GMT
He's more than just "friendly" with Cora, when he compliments her and talks about watching her he says "the mind wants what it wants". There's his banter about Peebee (if he's not romanced by Sara) where he admits he finds himself "looking back" when she looks at him with interest. Pretty different from the way he behaves around Liam. And there's the part after his loyalty mission when Sara asks about his new scar and he wonders if it'll make him more appealing to their female friends. How could you forget Drack...Drack is "monster" class asexual companion, rather than male or female companion in terms of romantic prospects/drool. I know some say otherwise, but that's how BioWare built their teams in SWTOR, and I think it applies here. Same structure, only with a bonus Asari. Attraction to an Asari is pansexual, and maybe he just does not like Liam that way. Maybe he just prefers pastel shades over darker saturated colours. I love the matchmaking you can do with the Angara. You have a male Turian with a female Angara, a male Krogan with a female Angara and can witness love blooming between a male Angara and an Asari.
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Drack is "monster" class asexual companion, rather than male or female companion in terms of romantic prospects/drool. I know some say otherwise, but that's how BioWare built their teams in SWTOR, and I think it applies here. Same structure, only with a bonus Asari. Attraction to an Asari is pansexual, and maybe he just does not like Liam that way. Maybe he just prefers pastel shades over darker saturated colours. I love the matchmaking you can do with the Angara. You have a male Turian with a female Angara, a male Krogan with a female Angara and can witness love blooming between a male Angara and an Asari. Not sure I follow your line of thought?
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Post by theratpack55 on Apr 10, 2017 12:46:26 GMT
He's more than just "friendly" with Cora, when he compliments her and talks about watching her he says "the mind wants what it wants". There's his banter about Peebee (if he's not romanced by Sara) where he admits he finds himself "looking back" when she looks at him with interest. Pretty different from the way he behaves around Liam. And there's the part after his loyalty mission when Sara asks about his new scar and he wonders if it'll make him more appealing to their female friends. How could you forget Drack...Drack is "monster" class asexual companion, rather than male or female companion in terms of romantic prospects/drool. I know some say otherwise, but that's how BioWare built their teams in SWTOR, and I think it applies here. Same structure, only with a bonus Asari. Attraction to an Asari is pansexual, and maybe he just does not like Liam that way. Maybe he just prefers pastel shades over darker saturated colours. You could apply this kind of reasoning to absolutely every character/person ever... maaaybe they are actually bisexual, just didn't like any of the thousands of males/females they met "that way". But the thing is, this is a game not the real world, so the traits the characters actually show are the only ones that exist, since that's what the writers ended up putting in the game. As for Asari and pansexuality... debatable, but that's more of a meta case.
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I love the matchmaking you can do with the Angara. You have a male Turian with a female Angara, a male Krogan with a female Angara and can witness love blooming between a male Angara and an Asari. Not sure I follow your line of thought? Well people don't like Jaal and PeeBee hooking up and they are all "Asari best race" so Angara prefer them, but the Angara like all the MW aliens, not just the Asari. Jaal might find the Asari interesting, but he likes PeeBee because she is similar to him.
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Drack is "monster" class asexual companion, rather than male or female companion in terms of romantic prospects/drool. I know some say otherwise, but that's how BioWare built their teams in SWTOR, and I think it applies here. Same structure, only with a bonus Asari. Attraction to an Asari is pansexual, and maybe he just does not like Liam that way. Maybe he just prefers pastel shades over darker saturated colours. You could apply this kind of reasoning to absolutely every character/person ever... maaaybe they are actually bisexual, just didn't like any of the thousands of males/females they met "that way". But the thing is, this is a game not the real world, so the traits the characters actually show are the only ones that exist, since that's what the writers ended up putting in the game. As for Asari and pansexuality... debatable, but that's more of a meta case. Right, but in this case Jaal really doesn't meet anyone but Liam. Also, well, perhaps he loves flirting with girls in an easy way, but is more reserved with boys, and that's why his compliments to Liam are directed more to his battle prowess, rather than his appearance, etc. It is, as you noted a game, so every player can make what case she or he wants with the material given.
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Post by theratpack55 on Apr 10, 2017 12:58:38 GMT
You could apply this kind of reasoning to absolutely every character/person ever... maaaybe they are actually bisexual, just didn't like any of the thousands of males/females they met "that way". But the thing is, this is a game not the real world, so the traits the characters actually show are the only ones that exist, since that's what the writers ended up putting in the game. As for Asari and pansexuality... debatable, but that's more of a meta case. Right, but in this case Jaal really doesn't meet anyone but Liam. Also, well, perhaps he loves flirting with girls in an easy way, but is more reserved with boys, and that's why his compliments to Liam are directed more to his battle prowess, rather than his appearance, etc. It is, as you noted a game, so every player can make what case she or he wants with the material given. As headcanon, sure. I'm just saying that nothing in canon supports it. If the devs wanted to put that in game there's also Gil and Kallo to choose from for possible flirty Tempest banter. Leaving work now so gotta run.
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Not sure I follow your line of thought? Well people don't like Jaal and PeeBee hooking up and they are all "Asari best race" so Angara prefer them, but the Angara like all the MW aliens, not just the Asari. Jaal might find the Asari interesting, but he likes PeeBee because she is similar to him. Actually, I seem to remember a banter between Jaal and Peebs when he is freaked out by Asari procreating with any species and popping out Asari as a result, I.e. being like Kett in a way, only using seduction vs exaltation. Peebs calms him down in a follow up, but... but... where am I going with it? Asari are not universally attractive. I remember Kai Leng outright thinks of them all as whores.... so yeah, not universally sex-goddess crazy status. Some of aliens can cut through their biotic-enhanced pheromone blast. Still has nothing to do with the perceived burning necessity to ardently protect Jaal from a horrid prospect of going for a swim in a lake with a male Ryder, and then kiss him all over.
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Right, but in this case Jaal really doesn't meet anyone but Liam. Also, well, perhaps he loves flirting with girls in an easy way, but is more reserved with boys, and that's why his compliments to Liam are directed more to his battle prowess, rather than his appearance, etc. It is, as you noted a game, so every player can make what case she or he wants with the material given. As headcanon, sure. I'm just saying that nothing in canon supports it. If the devs wanted to put that in game there's also Gil and Kallo to choose from for possible flirty Tempest banter. Leaving work now so gotta run.Yep! Liam is a bro to Jaal and Jaal's best help for understanding the MW races and Sara (since Liam gives him tips on how to pleasure her). And Jaal wanting his scars to impress the females only, also makes it pretty obvious how he feels. Liam is a straight guy, but he doesn't mind being close to Jaal, but he's not secretly bi. They have a beautiful bromance where they are comfortable with each other without anything sexual. I think turning it into that would ruin what they have. It's pretty rare for straight guys to be that way and not be picked on or made fun of for it. I'm glad that relationship is in the game. Drack and Jaal also have a nice companionship, but they bonded more over their rite of passage.
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Well people don't like Jaal and PeeBee hooking up and they are all "Asari best race" so Angara prefer them, but the Angara like all the MW aliens, not just the Asari. Jaal might find the Asari interesting, but he likes PeeBee because she is similar to him. Actually, I seem to remember a banter between Jaal and Peebs when he is freaked out by Asari procreating with any species and popping out Asari as a result, I.e. being like Kett in a way, only using seduction vs exaltation. Peebs calms him down in a follow up, but... but... where am I going with it? Asari are not universally attractive. I remember Kai Leng outright thinks of them all as whores.... so yeah, not universally sex-goddess crazy status. Some of aliens can cut through their biotic-enhanced pheromone blast. Still has nothing to do with the perceived burning necessity to ardently protect Jaal from a horrid prospect of going for a swim in a lake with a male Ryder, and then kiss him all over. Haha yeah and later he trolls her by saying he wants to mate with her, then after she freaks out he tells her he was just harmlessly flirting. LOL protect Jaal from that? I would rather protect him from being messed up more than he already is after that Day 1 patch. But the fact is Jaal is straight and if they change him now, they are changing what they intended and not something they had planned, and to me, that's wrong. And as someone who once strongly supported him being bi, what I saw in the game will never convince me he would have worked that way anymore. If they do change him, as I said, it's not what they intended, so it's a forced change to please others. And not fair to some people who wanted to romance Suvi as Scott or Gil as Sara and more demands might be forced on the devs. It's their call however.
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As headcanon, sure. I'm just saying that nothing in canon supports it. If the devs wanted to put that in game there's also Gil and Kallo to choose from for possible flirty Tempest banter. Leaving work now so gotta run.Yep! Liam is a bro to Jaal and Jaal's best help for understanding the MW races and Sara (since Liam gives him tips on how to pleasure her). And Jaal wanting his scars to impress the females only, also makes it pretty obvious how he feels. Liam is a straight guy, but he doesn't mind being close to Jaal, but he's not secretly bi. They have a beautiful bromance where they are comfortable with each other without anything sexual. I think turning it into that would ruin what they have. It's pretty rare for straight guys to be that way and not be picked on or made fun of for it. I'm glad that relationship is in the game. Drack and Jaal also have a nice companionship, but they bonded more over their rite of passage. You can be friends with the members of the sex you are attracted to sexually. I am totally sis-moncing Vetra despite the "heart" options that comes up. I can process Jaal doing the same with Liam. Anyone attracted to Drack romantically does not compute for me personally at all (in fact, he won't be on my ship, if I had a say), but shipping lanes are wide. It's been two decades since I last felt the need to protect the One True Interpretation of a character, and "save" them from other people's fantasies in their games. My game is not ruined at all by someone else enjoying it in a different ways. I am grateful to the Great Aerie Wars for teaching me that valuable lesson.
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Actually, I seem to remember a banter between Jaal and Peebs when he is freaked out by Asari procreating with any species and popping out Asari as a result, I.e. being like Kett in a way, only using seduction vs exaltation. Peebs calms him down in a follow up, but... but... where am I going with it? Asari are not universally attractive. I remember Kai Leng outright thinks of them all as whores.... so yeah, not universally sex-goddess crazy status. Some of aliens can cut through their biotic-enhanced pheromone blast. Still has nothing to do with the perceived burning necessity to ardently protect Jaal from a horrid prospect of going for a swim in a lake with a male Ryder, and then kiss him all over. Haha yeah and later he trolls her by saying he wants to mate with her, then after she freaks out he tells her he was just harmlessly flirting. LOL protect Jaal from that? I would rather protect him from being messed up more than he already is after that Day 1 patch. But the fact is Jaal is straight and if they change him now, they are changing what they intended and not something they had planned, and to me, that's wrong. And as someone who once strongly supported him being bi, what I saw in the game will never convince me he would have worked that way anymore. If they do change him, as I said, it's not what they intended, so it's a forced change to please others. And not fair to some people who wanted to romance Suvi as Scott or Gil as Sara and more demands might be forced on the devs. It's their call however. But they did have a bi Jaal planned? Not saying they should make Jaal bi in a patch, but the code showed intent on making him available to both Ryders.
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Haha yeah and later he trolls her by saying he wants to mate with her, then after she freaks out he tells her he was just harmlessly flirting. LOL protect Jaal from that? I would rather protect him from being messed up more than he already is after that Day 1 patch. But the fact is Jaal is straight and if they change him now, they are changing what they intended and not something they had planned, and to me, that's wrong. And as someone who once strongly supported him being bi, what I saw in the game will never convince me he would have worked that way anymore. If they do change him, as I said, it's not what they intended, so it's a forced change to please others. And not fair to some people who wanted to romance Suvi as Scott or Gil as Sara and more demands might be forced on the devs. It's their call however. But they did have a bi Jaal planned? Not saying they should make Jaal bi in a patch, but the code showed intent on making him available to both Ryders. Most likely in the early writing stages, but it was scrapped. The code and that one line were left in and forgotten, same with Cora it seems. BW is known for doing that. And the datamining has tons of things we never found in the game even for Sara, and is why it should never be taken seriously since you will always find things that never made it to the final game.
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Post by shechinah on Apr 10, 2017 13:20:38 GMT
But they did have a bi Jaal planned? Not saying they should make Jaal bi in a patch, but the code showed intent on making him available to both Ryders.Are you referring to that one line of recorded dialogue? This thread's been going on for a few pages but earlier on, I explained that it's apparently part of a cost-saving measure and it is not an indication of any plans on the writers' side. Sera has them as well with a male Inquisitor but she remains a lesbian that is wholly uninterested in men. If you are referring to other content that might have been datamined then plans change and it's not unusual for people to discover unused content or discarded plans. According to the Toolset, Flemeth was originally confirmed by Morrigan as being her grandmother by blood. In the game itself, it is never confirmed by Morrigan or anything else if Flemeth is even related to her.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 13:22:58 GMT
Haha yeah and later he trolls her by saying he wants to mate with her, then after she freaks out he tells her he was just harmlessly flirting. LOL protect Jaal from that? I would rather protect him from being messed up more than he already is after that Day 1 patch. But the fact is Jaal is straight and if they change him now, they are changing what they intended and not something they had planned, and to me, that's wrong. And as someone who once strongly supported him being bi, what I saw in the game will never convince me he would have worked that way anymore. If they do change him, as I said, it's not what they intended, so it's a forced change to please others. And not fair to some people who wanted to romance Suvi as Scott or Gil as Sara and more demands might be forced on the devs. It's their call however. But they did have a bi Jaal planned? Not saying they should make Jaal bi in a patch, but the code showed intent on making him available to both Ryders. You can check the beginning of this thread to catch up on that line of argument. The intention was very early in development, and got hard-override later on supported by all those banters we are chit-chatting about here. It is not Quinn's romance in SWTOR that leaves you checking that your PC indeed does have breasts every dialogue. The problem is not that the override is not noticeable, the problem is that this hard override really curtailed the story for a male PC. It was a really poor decision, and all fixes for it are quite expensive. It is particularly annoying because the cast does favor a male PC imo. Oh, well. I had a dream, and it did not come to pass. The ball is in BiOWARE's court, and we shall see. ATM, it is too much like an inverse of, say, a Jedi Knight or Imperial Agent story in SWTOR, where a male PC gets a way more interesting and important love stories.
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Post by lightdrago3 on Apr 10, 2017 13:23:09 GMT
But they did have a bi Jaal planned? Not saying they should make Jaal bi in a patch, but the code showed intent on making him available to both Ryders.Are you referring to that one line of recorded dialogue? This thread's been going on for a few pages but earlier on, I explained that it's apparently part of a cost-saving measure and it is not an indication of any plans on the writers' side. Sera has them as well with a male Inquisitor but she remains a lesbian that is wholly uninterested in men. No, not just that one line. There were romance triggers written for both Scott and Sara, unlike Liam who only had a romance trigger for Sara. If it was that one line, it wouldn't have convinced me as it did, but dataminers didn't find any triggers excluding either gender, if I remember correctly.
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