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Post by Warrick on May 16, 2017 9:03:52 GMT
I still hope for a cameo featuring adult Kieran. because Connor's went so well. He's so friggen miserable, I consider killing him now just to prevent that sad self hating future. That's going to be some fun party banter between Cole, Connor, and Kieran.
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Post by Hagoromo on May 16, 2017 18:39:09 GMT
Party dialogue from Origins regarding romance and the implication of sexual activity there of; It's seem to me that you aren't eager to accept what the truth is . Those banters aren't a proof,if the warden start a romance without never having sex with a LI(which is a legit path totally respected in DAO)they are not going to sleep with them off-screen wihtout the input of the player. That is proved by the fact that the child named Kieran is never mentioned to be in existence in WH in the case of a Warden who never slept with Morrigan despite having triggered the romance with her.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on May 16, 2017 18:58:18 GMT
Party dialogue from Origins regarding romance and the implication of sexual activity there of; It's seem to me that you aren't eager to accept what the truth is . Those banters prove nothing,if the warden start a romance without never having sex with a LI(which is a legit path totally respected in DAO)they are not going to sleep with them off-screen wihtout the input of the player. That is proved by the fact that the child named Kieran is never mentioned to be in existence in WH in the case of a Warden who never slept with Morrigan despite having triggered the romance with her. I don't see the point as for why they want to try to defend DAO over one of its numerous plot holes,said child shouldn't have existed in the aforementioned scenario. The Warden is a character which is most of the times totally controlled by the player except those few times where the writers take the liberty to command them in place of the player,but this thing of the Warden doing stuff off-screen during the main game is just BS.
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Post by formerfiend on May 16, 2017 23:37:10 GMT
Party dialogue from Origins regarding romance and the implication of sexual activity there of; It's seem to me that you aren't eager to accept what the truth is . Those banters aren't a proof,if the warden start a romance without never having sex with a LI(which is a legit path totally respected in DAO)they are not going to sleep with them off-screen wihtout the input of the player. That is proved by the fact that the child named Kieran is never mentioned to be in existence in WH in the case of a Warden who never slept with Morrigan despite having triggered the romance with her. My position has never been that a warden who's romance never progresses to a sexual one has their character having sex off screen. My point was that someone who's relationship progresses to the sexual stage and yet they only personally select the option to sleep with your LI once does have the implication that their character continues to sleep with their LI more than just the one time so long as their relationship is active. Your position was that a human Kieran cannot possibly exist because Morrigan's romance can begin as early as Lothering and the game takes place over to long of a period for the child to be conceived at that point and Morrigan not be showing by the end of the game. My position is that is only true if you assume that the only time the Warden sleeps with Morrigan is at the first possible opportunity and never again, and that if you sleep with a LI once, the game presumes you continue to do so. My position has never been that human Kieran is possible if a Warden romances Morrigan and never sleeps with her, period.
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Post by Hagoromo on May 16, 2017 23:49:22 GMT
formerfiend by point as always been the same,and it was that Warden does nothing in DAO outside of player control.The scenario which I have mentioned before proves that warden doesn't sleep with anyone off-screen regardless of how the romance is handeled,otherwise there is no reason to assume any distinction between this scenario and the one you've mentioned (where you assumed that warden sleep off screen with people if player allowed it to happen at least one time,which is kind of a contrived reasoning as there is no reason to deduct as for why Warden wouldn't have done that either way even without the first imput of the player)and that the human Kieran become a plot hole without a planification of the romance. If warden does stuff off-screen then it should have done stuff even in the scenario which I have mentioned,which means that human child would have been mandatory,but he is not,that support the fact that warden does nothing off-screen
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