Ryder too soft

Yeah for me Bioware are on the tip of something truly effective with this dialogue system, I just can't help but feel something's missing still.

 Other people have. Not every one want to be paragon and renegade. Or be part of Cerberus, or part of the alliance or a warden or so on.
But it would be solved with more options...but this is a video game and it's going to have limit of line due to the plot.

I suppose you're better at mental gymnastics if you don't see the disconnect between the professional options and the auto dialogue...

I'm glad you enjoy the humor in MEA. I think it's god awful most of the time. Most of the Nomad banter is fine though. And not taking Liam on missions has increased my enjoyment of the game by 500%.

So I have found ways to make the game as fun as possible for me. But it's still a bad joke as a Mass Effect game in my opinion.

Feels like SAM is Ryder's kindergarten teacher. Then you meet the space teletubbies and the kids field trip is complete. Group hug!

This is not at all my cup of tea. And I do like the humor in Guardians of the Galaxy. But MEA is a bad bad imitation at best.

But yeah, boils down to taste.

The Citadel DLC does not belong in the ME3 game.



Nothing wrong with liking the DLC but it has no business to include it with the ME3 game.

Ryder is a whimp, kiddo who would fail all the way through the game if not SAM. If Shepard went to Andromeda..

Seriously Renegade Shep would make the entire MEA crew shit themselves in fear. I absolutely adored the Renegade Shep because they were more of a fear icon than the reapers.

Ryder isn't in the same league and without Sam wouldn't of lasted two seconds against the kett. Honestly we should of played as the father because he had that Shep feel.

Problem is people would of lost their shit because no female version but a good story setup trumps it (TW3 /HZD).

Again for reference because people tend to forget what a proper renegade hero is...

another common complaint i don't understand is the intrusive nature of the auto dialog. Most of it was questions or fairly neutral statements. Though i suppose it's because i don't view having a sense of humor as being contrary to being a professional

I played Ryder mostly as a logical professional who eased up a bit with his crew over the course of the journey. I allowed him a few emotional reactions, more when i felt that he gotten to know the crew better and felt more comfortable in his leadership position. Same for casual responses, when i felt they were appropriate.

I was mostly pleased and pleasantly surprised how well the Ryder is saw matched the one i envisioned.

This is not to say that i did not experience some disconnect. Like when on Eladeen, in a certain ship Ryder starts to talk to himself. Totally out of character for my Ryder. Also from time to time i felt like the dialogue choices did not match what was actually said, but at least for me, these instances were rare enough that i can be pleased how my Ryder turned out.

I would also like to point out the phrase: "We got this." It is said often enough by Ryder that everyone should have noticed it. The way he says the phrase, changes during the course of the game and shows a pretty clear change in attitude and confidence.

As for the writing overall, it was really uneven. Had some really good moments and some serious eyeroller's. Have to agree with the posters here, who said that it felt like some of the ideas were first drafts and unpolished. I'm no writer, but i know that even the best writers put out some solid turds in their first drafts and that's okay, it's what second and third drafts are for.

Personally i would like to see more of Ryder and the new dialogue system. I really think that they have some great opportunities to show how a young and inexperienced explorer can grow into a mature and hardened leader. For me, it would be a really rewarding journey. I don't think i have seen something like that done in a video game before. I am not saying there isn't anything like that out there, just i haven't seen it. The Max Payne series perhaps, but it's not really the same.

In regards to the overall tone and it being similar to Citadel, maybe a little bit, but i really hope the devs will not take Citadel as an inspiration. I liked Citadel, but it was at times a bit too goofy and made some of the characters a bit too much like caricatures of who they were, like Wrex or Kasumi. However i still liked it and mainly because i think the brevity of Citadel was earned. If we leave out the OT's ending and how Citadel was something of a apology, then the OT as a whole was a pretty grim ride. It's my favorite game series and i loved it, but it was dark and even depressing at times, so Citadel was earned in that regard and i understand the almost universal acclaim it got. However, i do not wish to see the whole franchise turn into something like that tonally. It doesn't have to get as dark as the OT, but neither should it become as goofy as Citadel. Which in my opinion it has not, at least not yet.

The first meeting room converation comes to mind as one of the most glaring examples. We achieved something and didn't get killed, and yada, yada, yada, only to deliver Cora the opportunity to have a shot at Drack and the Krogans.

I spammed the X button in my NG+ run. Which happens more often in this game than in any Bioware game before when it came to conversations. I said it before, it's also because NPCs often reply with the same line, regardless of the option you choose to start the dialogue. Already obvious when first entering the Nexus and they put your faculties as pathfinder into doubt. There are four options that lead to the exact same reply of "youthful enthusiam". They could have let run that one on auto, since it would have spared you the effort of looking for an appropriate comeback.

Ryder is simply Bioware's answer to toxic masculinity. Even if you played FemShep, she was a total bad-ass alpha personality. Ryder is your hipster beta-male/female replacement, if you had any doubt just checkout that new "casual" outfit.

I mean half the time I was just waiting for the mouse button to light up so I could punch an idiot in the face when I was getting called weak, unprepared, or a moron by Random_NPC_01. Instead, you are literally forced to be nice to these people, when in MET, as Shepard you could at least be an asshole right back, if they didn't allow you to be openly violent.

It's funny too, because Bioware has no problem with you killing 1,000's of bad guys, but when it becomes conversation time, it's back to being forced into beta-boy/girl roles.

Snark and Comedy are great to break up tense moments in a story, over use them though, and it turns into a Sitcom, which is what ME:A did.