Mass Effect/Bioware Might Be Too Inclusive...but

You have it backwards. It makes perfect sense to expect to be represented in fiction, because fiction mirrors reality, at least in theory. Reality, naturally, has perfect representation.

My issue with your line of argument is that this is not an either-or situation.

You can have a diverse and well developed human and humanoid cast for the player to interact with while also spending time allowing the player to explore more alien-looking-aliens and the alien concepts they may bring to the universe.

Representation does not detract from that ability.  Bad writing choices do.

In fact, I would argue that diverse representation actually enhances the player's ability to more fully engage with alien concepts.  A well written and diverse cast will allow the player to interact with and respond to a wider range of perspectives on the truly alien when new concepts appear in the game.


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In fact the whole discussion reminds me of a Howard Stern Sal N Richard prank call. The one to the pizza delivery where everyone demands to leave a certain ingredient out of the pizza until nothing remains. I for one am glad that game companies don't respond to public demand. Otherwise everyone would end up with no pizza at all.

Who fucking cares? Guess what, there a lot of games where I can shoot white dudes as a black female, if I fell inclined to play a black female. Hell, I can even shoot white dudes as a gay black dude, if I feel like playing a black gay dude.

Get over that SJW bullshit already. It's getting old very fast. Noone really cares other than people being anal about finding some political or social agenda in any wayward game.

No, I don't care. I care about racism, but not about a game maybe, possibly, going by rumors and nothing else, featuring a black female as a protagonist, who, shockingly, in order to survive, may shoot white dudes amongst others. I have bigger fish to fry than getting anal or pissed at a game, whch doesn't resort to the usual white red blooded muscle male being the protagonist.

I'm sick over these discussions over the entertainment industry since they already should be old since Jackie Brown in 1997.

To quote Clarke Gable in Gone with the Wind, frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

At what point did I say I'm white?

I've spent most of my life watching anime in japanese (with subs, sadly I just can't grasp the language), and often used to watch martial arts and other foreign films with my brother growing up. I roleplayed a Night Elf female for ten years on World of Warcraft, and one of my favourite characters in gaming growing up was Lara Croft. I'm fat though, always have been ever since I was a kid. I never saw anyone in gaming or tv who was fat to look up to, it never really mattered as I identified with characters personalities rather than the race or gender they had. I really couldn't care less what gender or race someone is, or their sexuality, only the person or their character is important. When it comes to games, movies, it is their character, attitudes and how they are acted that draw me in, and it was the same when I was a kid.

My opinion is that the current method of "representation" in the media is actually damaging and full of hypocrisy. When representation is forced down peoples throats, where people are told they are wrong if their viewpoint doesn't line up with the stuff social media discusses, all it does is leave you feeling maligned even when you support equality as a whole. If a traditionally white male character is changed to be black or female, then it is considered to be progressive, if the opposite occurs, it is considered to be racist or sexist. It's like when we keep seeing suggestions that James Bond should be played by a black man or by a woman, which I think shows total disrespect to the creator of James Bond who wrote the character as a white man, and also an intense lack of creativity. Do I want to see a black James Bond? Nope, but would I love to see spy film with a black male or female lead? Of course! I welcome new stories and characters of any race, gender, or sexuality!

I'm unsure if this is an american issue more than anywhere else. When I was a kid growing up I had a lot of black and chinese friends, but I never saw racism towards them and they were into many of the same movies and games I was, loving similar characters. Maybe I was lucky, or maybe over here we aren't as segregated as in america. I'm unsure.

Strawman Creation 101:
If a person says blah blah blah about this other thing and then says blah blah blah about that other thing, that person is a hypocrite.

I'll ask again: Is there some reason why these people who aren't here that have opinions about other games are relevant to this thread?

You started this whole orgasming thing, stop pretending someone else is the pervert here.

Nice way to avoid the point that's actually being made though. Really strong going as usual.

Of course, I'm a white male.

Yes, very much so.

Somehow though, I don't feel threatened by all this evil social justice stuff whereas you seem quite frightened by it. Why is that?

That's not the proper question to ask here. The questions you should ask are if I agree with them and why I agree with them even though I am a straight, white male.

But I doubt you'd understand, as you seem to judge social justice by it's most absurd proponents.