Mass Effect/Bioware Might Be Too Inclusive...but

Some of these bait memes never fail to make me laugh.

You can't be too inclusive. All sorts of people exist in real life and therefore they can and should exist in stories, it would only make sense.

Though, I do agree that it's nice when games have female enemies, because it gets away from negative tropes of both genders. That women are passive characters who don't fight, or that they're pure and more moral than men, or somehow more special (utter patronizing), and of course, that Men Are The Expendable Gender.

It's good. Men and women should both be allowed to be all across the character spectrum. Paragons, sadists, and everything in between. Because they are. I find it especially eye-rolly in games where you (can) play as a woman, like Borderlands or Tomb Raider, but every single enemy is male.

It's easy to feel this way when you're essentially a white male.  Sure, if you go into detail you're irish...but you're still basically a white male.  White males have been protagonists in probably 99%+ games, movies, television shows, books, etc.  It's nice when a developer switches things up and makes a female or non-white male protagonist.

Being represented is awesome and contributes a lot to self value, especially in younger minds.  It's something you may not fully understand since most protagonists have always looked like you, but for a female or a black guy...it's nice to see positive and powerful images of people who look similar to you.  Makes you feel like you can do it too.

I do agree with you that the game, movie, etc. itself should be good first-and-foremost, but inclusivity and/or diversity are not a bad thing.

Make it whatever convincing for the setting is and leave it at that.

I don't think anyone would mind as long as it fits the story.  Sloane Kelly is essentially a black female gangster.  There was no "political shitstorm" over her death.

You can be too inclusive when you have a game like DA2 with the majority of your party is bisexual. Doesn't make sense.

I'm not a "white male", I'm irish, technically half, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm not represented. But its not an issue for me, I don't care what a person looks like. I've never said inclusivity or diversity is a bad thing, but I feel people make too big a deal out of it. When I watch Luther, I don't think "Oh, well, I can't enjoy this because the lead character is a black man.", and I didn't think that I could not play Jade Empire because the characters are based chinese culture and appearances.

I don't identify with people on screen because of their colour, or their gender, their sexuality or anything like that. It's the quality of their character, their attributes, their writing and how they're acted. I'm not american, but that hasn't stopped me liking countless films, tv shows and games that feature characters from that country. Games should focus on the story, the characters, and people should stop complaining all the time about not being represented. Not every gender/sexuality/race can be represented in a medium such as this.

I'm not saying I don't want to see characters from different places, don't get me wrong. I just think people need to get a broader mindset over who they identify with. Look beyond the skin, the skin isn't important.

I don't know what you mean tbh, if you don't have a problem with the depiction of a extremist religious group as violent regardless of their skin colour then we don't have a disagreement (which is not the same thing as "winning" an argument). Unless that comment was wrt only Muslim extremists. 

you can do that in saints row. Hell, you can be anything and do it in saints row.