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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Jun 11, 2017 16:37:01 GMT
NO. It may not necessarily sink a franchise but it can put hesitation into the future involvement of said franchise. One thing I must say however is that despite ME:A many bugs and failures -many of which have now been fixed... It is the best RPG that has EA put out recently... if at all... Bioware is the only RPG studio to put forth games that can actually be worth playing that are involved with EA... I think they may be the only RPG studio that EA has.. so I doubt EA will close Bioware's doors.
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 16:40:47 GMT
A normal developer/studio should love their own creation,so what if a book,movie,game tanks,there are tons of story's to tell,the next one will be so much better. EA on the other hand is a publisher,it care's about sales,there is no love,only cash and how much cash a product makes........if a game does not make money,it goes in the bin,it's a bad investment. Hence why EA's portfolio is full of shooters and sports......cos that's what sells. Don't compare games to books. Compare them to toilet paper. I admit, my statement is meant to be provocative. But maybe it conveys the message of why this is considered an investment, a multi million dollar investment, as opposed to an author writing a book that fails to meet it's audience. Movies, well that's a different story. If they tank, there certainly won't be xxxx part 2, but another movie based on a different story entirely. Truth is, the time of idealistic entrepreneurs developing the games they would like to play is over for at least two decades. Games are big business and there's not a shred of romanticism about their production. It's rather night shifts and weekends to meet deadlines. If the investment fails, the business moves on to greener pastures.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Jun 11, 2017 16:43:49 GMT
Another thing that people forget is that both Mass Effect and Dragon Age are multi-media brands with the comics, novels, toys, anime movies, live action web series, and so on. Sometimes those are where the real money and the future are.
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Post by Gwydden on Jun 11, 2017 16:51:47 GMT
A normal developer/studio should love their own creation,so what if a book,movie,game tanks,there are tons of story's to tell,the next one will be so much better. EA on the other hand is a publisher,it care's about sales,there is no love,only cash and how much cash a product makes........if a game does not make money,it goes in the bin,it's a bad investment. Hence why EA's portfolio is full of shooters and sports......cos that's what sells. Don't compare games to books. Compare them to toilet paper. I admit, my statement is meant to be provocative. But maybe it conveys the message of why this is considered an investment, a multi million dollar investment, as opposed to an author writing a book that fails to meet it's audience. Movies, well that's a different story. If they tank, there certainly won't be xxxx part 2, but another movie based on a different story entirely. Truth is, the time of idealistic entrepreneurs developing the games they would like to play is over for at least two decades. Games are big business and there's not a shred of romanticism about their production. It's rather night shifts and weekends to meet deadlines. If the investment fails, the business moves on to greener pastures. Don't compare games to books, but that's not quite the reason why. Books have the advantage of being cheap to make. You can even write a digital copy and publish it online and there, all you've invested is one person's time. Games and movies are expensive, which in practice means you will be seeing drastically different approaches between how big corporations and indie companies make them. AAA games aren't any more of a big business than Hollywood films, and if you are looking for more niche/artsy/innovative stuff there's always the indie scene.
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 16:54:31 GMT
AAA games aren't any more of a big business than Hollywood films, and if you are looking for more niche/artsy/innovative stuff there's always the indie scene. We're talking about a so called AAA title here. Not some indie production. And AAA game development is subject to the same business parameters as a new iphone, Cereal or toilet paper.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 16:55:45 GMT
If you had to choose an investment that returns 5 instead of 2, for every buck spent which would you go for? ME rep is in a bad position right now...the best thing Bioware can do is release a huge, 10/10 DLC that redeems everything from main game ... no filler/bloat, good writing, far more expanded setting ( new species...bring that sense of "wonder"), space exploration, etc. How well your next game sells depends more on reception of it's predecessor. But nothing seems to indicate this.
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Post by Gwydden on Jun 11, 2017 17:01:40 GMT
AAA games aren't any more of a big business than Hollywood films, and if you are looking for more niche/artsy/innovative stuff there's always the indie scene. We're talking about a so called AAA title here. Not some indie production. And AAA game development is subject to the same business parameters as a new iphone, Cereal or toilet paper. Right. Or a Marvel movie. Which everyone raves about. I'm disgusted by grubby capitalism as much as anyone, but it's the nature of the beast.
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Post by malgus on Jun 11, 2017 17:07:16 GMT
If you had to choose an investment that returns 5 instead of 2, for every buck spent which would you go for? ME rep is in a bad position right now...the best thing Bioware can do is release a huge, 10/10 DLC that redeems everything from main game ... no filler/bloat, good writing, far more expanded setting ( new species...bring that sense of "wonder"), space exploration, etc. How well your next game sells depends more on reception of it's predecessor. But nothing seems to indicate this. Nope DA 2 had a bad reputation and DAI sold like hot cakes, it got 4.9 millions sales and that is not even including the digital sales that are now far more numerous than they used to be. As long as the game is good it can sell well, even if the predecessor was not received well.
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 17:26:34 GMT
Nope DA 2 had a bad reputation and DAI sold like hot cakes, it got 4.9 millions sales and that is not even including the digital sales that are now far more numerous than they used to be. As long as the game is good it can sell well, even if the predecessor was not received well. In between lay ME3, which was much better than this one. DAI was much better than this one also. It all boils down to what I said before. Did the game meet company expectations or didn't it. It's quite a difference between DAII, which only took about a year to develop and a 40 million investment that tied a whole crew for the better part of five years.
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Post by malgus on Jun 11, 2017 17:49:51 GMT
Nope DA 2 had a bad reputation and DAI sold like hot cakes, it got 4.9 millions sales and that is not even including the digital sales that are now far more numerous than they used to be. As long as the game is good it can sell well, even if the predecessor was not received well. In between lay ME3, which was much better than this one. DAI was much better than this one also. It all boils down to what I said before. Did the game meet company expectations or didn't it. It's quite a difference between DAII, which only took about a year to develop and a 40 million investment that tied a whole crew for the better part of five years. Yest but my point was not how DAI was received, the problem was before DAI was released, the last memory of the public of the dragon age licence was DA 2, who was not great. It still manage to get a sequel despite that, and that sequel sold extremly well. For the sales, if the budget of 40 million is true, than 3 millions copies sold is more than enough to be a commercial sucess. We already know they sold 1.5 million copies physically, and digital sales are now much bigger than they used to be, bigger than the physical sales. www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/04/19/esa-video-game-sales-figures-show-74-percent-of-sales-are-digital/Sure it was not the huge seller EA excepted but that does not mean there is huge lost.
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 17:57:34 GMT
For this to break even of to make a moderate revenue probably isn't sufficient. That's why I keep stressing that sales figures get you nowhere unless you know the underlying projections and the business plan. Apart from the 40 million budget a whole studio has been tied to this for the better part of five years. Manpower that could have been used on other projects. So, it boils down to us not knowing anything. Apart from company statements not being excited. To what extent they're dissatisfied is an unknown again.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 17:57:58 GMT
Considering that Anthem is theie new big hitter, I can imagine EA just letting the ME brand quietly fade away. Also, unless DA4 is a big financial hit, I expect DA4 to be the last DA game as well. 10 years from now, Anthem will be the heavy hitter for Bioware along with 1 or 2 other new RPG IPs from Bioware. BG/NWN was one era of Bioware KOTOR/JE was another DA/ME is another ers And Anthem/New IPs will be the next And yet they are in the process of making DA4. It's not even a secret any longer, if it ever was. So, no, not the end of an "era". DA2 wasn't ridiculed and made into an online laughingstock like Andromeda (and the reviews were also much better). It's the end - for Andromeda.
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Post by abaris on Jun 11, 2017 18:02:26 GMT
DA2 wasn't ridiculed and made into an online laughingstock like Andromeda (and the reviews were also much better). It's the end - for Andromeda. It was made into a laughing stock for all the wrong reasons. The animations that everyone knew would be fixed and patched, the SJW bullshittery. It's not a laughing stock at all. It's a solid, but not an exciting game. It's mainly lacking in character and story elements, but none of these meme creators picked up on that one.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 11, 2017 18:14:13 GMT
Part of it was the bioware hate culture on the internet was just waiting for a mediocre ME game to come out so they could attack it non stop. The ME series has been the target of irrational ex fans going as far back as the release of ME 2. Since then these people have formed into a bit of a cult that has been trying to shut down ME ever since. All it took was one mismanaged game like MEA for them to seize the opportunity. The meme and gif posters have been around a long time as have the likes of smugboy and his sycophants. I put the blame on bioware management for not handling this mess with development of MEA better they basically gave the enemy tons of ammo with their mismanagement. The sad thing is despite everything wrong with it MEA is not even a bad game, merely a disappointing game that still has merit when played for it's own sake. Sometimes I don't know what makes me more angry the mishandling of the game by management or the internet hate mob that wanted to bring this IP down.
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Post by kino on Jun 11, 2017 18:23:03 GMT
And yet they are in the process of making DA4. It's not even a secret any longer, if it ever was. So, no, not the end of an "era". DA2 wasn't ridiculed and made into an online laughingstock like Andromeda (and the reviews were also much better). It's the end - for Andromeda. When you say things like that I wonder sometimes... DA2 was critically panned and ridiculed for it's map reuse and so-called lack of story. The old BSN was all about how "bad" it was for months, never realizing how well financially it was doing. Personally, I loved DA2 and it's characters. Much like I'm loving ME:A. So keep telling yourself the franchise is dead. Edit to add: Look at it's user Metacritic score, since MC seems to be the measuring stick for some.
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Post by zan on Jun 11, 2017 18:25:59 GMT
Quite frankly I don't think MEA deserved the reviews it got. Yes, it was raw on release, and even now not everything has been fixed. But the amount of issues seen in it 2 months after release would make it a solid B+ or maybe even an A- game. Too many people wanted payback for ME3 ending. Too many people expected that this will somehow be a continuation of the trilogy. Too many people look at OT (and especially at the writing) with rose tinted glasses.
Bottom line is that too many people had too high of expectations for MEA or expected it to be something it was not meant to be. If this does not sink the franchise, the next installment should have a much more reasonable expectations and (hopefully) do much better. I am squarely in the camp of people who thought MEA was well worth the money I paid for it (granted, I waited until the first two patches and THEN spent $20 less than people did on release).
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 11, 2017 18:31:09 GMT
DA2 wasn't ridiculed and made into an online laughingstock like Andromeda (and the reviews were also much better). It's the end - for Andromeda. When you say things like that I wonder sometimes...I point you to DA2 as exhibit A. Critically panned and ridiculed for it's map reuse and so-called lack of story. The old BSN was all about how "bad" it was for months, never realizing how well financially it was doing. Personally, I loved DA2 and it's characters. Much like I'm loving ME:A. So keep telling yourself the franchise is dead. I remember DA 2 getting hammered hard on the old bsn. I remember getting called a "biodrone" and "fanboy" for simply saying the game wasn't terrible even after I acknowledged it's flaws. But if DA 2 wasn't enough to completely sink DA than MEA should not be enough to completely sink ME. Hopefully hiatus just means a few years.
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Post by kino on Jun 11, 2017 18:35:26 GMT
When you say things like that I wonder sometimes...I point you to DA2 as exhibit A. Critically panned and ridiculed for it's map reuse and so-called lack of story. The old BSN was all about how "bad" it was for months, never realizing how well financially it was doing. Personally, I loved DA2 and it's characters. Much like I'm loving ME:A. So keep telling yourself the franchise is dead. I remember DA 2 getting hammered hard on the old bsn. I remember getting called a "biodrone" and "fanboy" for simply saying the game wasn't terrible even after I acknowledged it's flaws. But if DA 2 wasn't enough to completely sink DA than MEA should not be enough to completely sink ME. Hopefully hiatus just means a few years. Oh, it was bad. If you weren't on the "but I want my Warden!" boat you were in for a world of abuse from other people on the forum. It got to the point where I didn't go back to the forum until after ME3 was released.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 11, 2017 18:35:32 GMT
DA2 wasn't ridiculed and made into an online laughingstock like Andromeda (and the reviews were also much better). It's the end - for Andromeda. When you say things like that I wonder sometimes... DA2 was critically panned and ridiculed for it's map reuse and so-called lack of story. The old BSN was all about how "bad" it was for months, never realizing how well financially it was doing. Personally, I loved DA2 and it's characters. Much like I'm loving ME:A. So keep telling yourself the franchise is dead. Edit to add: Look at it's user Metacritic score, since MC seems to be the measuring stick for some. The backlash between the two can't be compared. The hate and ridicule, from both gamers and casuals who have never even played the game, is overwhelming for Andromeda thanks to the prevalence of social media. This is a different world from when DA2 was released. But feel free to keep your head in the sand.
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Post by Daft Arbiter on Jun 11, 2017 18:37:51 GMT
I remember DA 2 getting hammered hard on the old bsn. I remember getting called a "biodrone" and "fanboy" for simply saying the game wasn't terrible even after I acknowledged it's flaws. But if DA 2 wasn't enough to completely sink DA than MEA should not be enough to completely sink ME. Hopefully hiatus just means a few years. Oh, it was bad. If you weren't on the "but I want my Warden!" boat you were in for a world of abuse from other people on the forum. It got to the point where I didn't go back to the forum until after ME3 was released. Even after ME3 was released, the boards were still seething about DA2. If anything, ME3 aggravated those wounds. I wasn't even on the DA section of the forums back then and it was one of those topics that came up every single thread alongside "The Witcher this, The Witcher that" and "RGB lul."
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 11, 2017 18:49:23 GMT
Internet outrage, lack of sells and gaming moving toward multiplayer focused games. EA likely just prefer to make games focus on online so they can fill it with microtransactions and dlc instead of single player games that people will play for about 2 weeks.
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Post by kino on Jun 11, 2017 18:49:24 GMT
When you say things like that I wonder sometimes... DA2 was critically panned and ridiculed for it's map reuse and so-called lack of story. The old BSN was all about how "bad" it was for months, never realizing how well financially it was doing. Personally, I loved DA2 and it's characters. Much like I'm loving ME:A. So keep telling yourself the franchise is dead. Edit to add: Look at it's user Metacritic score, since MC seems to be the measuring stick for some. The backlash between the two can't be compared. The hate and ridicule, from both gamers and casuals who have never even played the game, is overwhelming for Andromeda thanks to the prevalence of social media. This is a different world from when DA2 was released. But feel free to keep your head in the sand. Can't be compared? hah. They can be imminently compared. The same people screaming they want Shepard back, or stay in the MW, are the same kind of people who screamed they wanted their Warden back or wanted to stay in Ferelden. Let me give you a single, confirmable number: $53 million in Premium Editions. The edition that didn't even come with a fucking game, just a case, art books and an RC Nomad. That's what EA had to move to '18 Q1 because they couldn't claim it in '17 Q4. Head in the sand? Shit, I'm looking at this quite clearly. You just keep on thinking ME is dead.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Jun 11, 2017 18:51:29 GMT
I remember DA 2 getting hammered hard on the old bsn. I remember getting called a "biodrone" and "fanboy" for simply saying the game wasn't terrible even after I acknowledged it's flaws. But if DA 2 wasn't enough to completely sink DA than MEA should not be enough to completely sink ME. Hopefully hiatus just means a few years. Oh, it was bad. If you weren't on the "but I want my Warden!" boat you were in for a world of abuse from other people on the forum. It got to the point where I didn't go back to the forum until after ME3 was released. They remind me of the "I want Shepard back" crowd.
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Post by kino on Jun 11, 2017 18:52:31 GMT
Oh, it was bad. If you weren't on the "but I want my Warden!" boat you were in for a world of abuse from other people on the forum. It got to the point where I didn't go back to the forum until after ME3 was released. They remind me of the "I want Shepard back" crowd. QFT right there, man. QF-fuckin'-T.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 18:59:06 GMT
It's the "Chicken Little" reaction that people have when a game causes waves. Same thing happened with DA2. Weird thing here is that a good many people seem to actually be gloating because they think the franchise is dead. Not weird at all. Haters want to feel some smug satisfaction in their hate. They never care that people might light the game and want to see more of it. Hate is selfish. Haters care not about anyone but themselves though they band with other haters. So long as their hate gets some kind of satisfaction in the failing of whatever they hate, that feels good to them. Other people are irrelevant. Haters would love to see a company fail for example. It would make them feel better. But they wouldn't consider all the people that just lost a job or all the people that did love the products/services that the company had.
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