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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 18, 2017 23:25:25 GMT
let's through Biowares endings shall we? Traditionally it seems biowares endings have been weak. DAO: alright build up, bad ending. DA 2: terrible build up, bad ending. DAI: rushed build up, descent ending. ME 1: great build up, good ending. ME 2: terrible build up, terrific ending. ME 3: great build up, alright ending. MEA: great build up, great ending. Man I'm not gonna lie this comparison to Dragon Age kinda triggers some saltiness in me, especially the one about Origins. I think it's probably had the absolute best ending of the 7 games here. It's really the only one of the lot here that has a full proper resolution for our heroes that doesn't have some kind of hook or leave us hanging. I can never fight the urge to reiterate my opinion that Dragon Age positively shits on Mass Effect in the story department, and it always kills me because I love scifi so much more than fantasy.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 18, 2017 23:33:03 GMT
let's through Biowares endings shall we? Traditionally it seems biowares endings have been weak. DAO: alright build up, bad ending. DA 2: terrible build up, bad ending. DAI: rushed build up, descent ending. ME 1: great build up, good ending. ME 2: terrible build up, terrific ending. ME 3: great build up, alright ending. MEA: great build up, great ending. Man I'm not gonna lie this comparison to Dragon Age kinda triggers some saltiness in me, especially the one about Origins. I think it's probably had the absolute best ending of the 7 games here. It's really the only one of the lot here that has a full proper resolution for our heroes that doesn't have some kind of hook or leave us hanging. I can never fight the urge to reiterate my opinion that Dragon Age positively shits on Mass Effect in the story department, and it always kills me because I love scifi so much more than fantasy. if its any consolation looks like MEA is off to finally bridging that gap. And my problem with the ending is its everything i dislike about origins enhanced. Admittedly i feel a little guilty about saying its bad because you are right from a story standpoint you are right. But it was soooooooooooooooo grindy and don't get me started on that god awful final battle.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 18, 2017 23:36:20 GMT
let's through Biowares endings shall we? Traditionally it seems biowares endings have been weak. DAO: alright build up, bad ending. DA 2: terrible build up, bad ending. DAI: rushed build up, descent ending. ME 1: great build up, good ending. ME 2: terrible build up, terrific ending. ME 3: great build up, alright ending. MEA: great build up, great ending. Why don't you make a thread, with poll, using what you posted above, to see how many folks agree with what you posted?
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jun 19, 2017 0:03:11 GMT
let's through Biowares endings shall we? Traditionally it seems biowares endings have been weak. DAO: alright build up, bad ending. DA 2: terrible build up, bad ending. DAI: rushed build up, descent ending. ME 1: great build up, good ending. ME 2: terrible build up, terrific ending. ME 3: great build up, alright ending. MEA: great build up, great ending. Why don't you make a thread, with poll, using what you posted above, to see how many folks agree with what you posted? I pretty much agree with most of it(ending wise, I could care less in how they build up and honestly I could argue most of those games listed). However Origins ending wasn't bad, and I'd argue it's the only DA game with a respectable ending cause inquisition relied on DLC to strengthen its own which I count vs it and DAII was a horrible game all around to me but it's later stages really just fell in on itself. Plus I'd downgrade Andromedas ending to good, it's not memorable to be great for me. plus I can pretty much agree with bioware traditionally being awful at setting up a good ending to their games, most are serviceable but nothing special.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 0:12:38 GMT
Why don't you make a thread, with poll, using what you posted above, to see how many folks agree with what you posted? I pretty much agree with most of it(ending wise, I could care less in how they build up and honestly I could argue most of those games listed). However Origins ending wasn't bad, and I'd argue it's the only DA game with a respectable ending cause inquisition relied on DLC to strengthen its own which I count vs it and DAII was a horrible game all around to me but it's later stages really just fell in on itself. Plus I'd downgrade Andromedas ending to good, it's not memorable to be great for me. plus I can pretty much agree with bioware traditionally being awful at setting up a good ending to their games, most are serviceable but nothing special. DA I ended in the base game Tresspasser wasn't an ending. It was set up. And DA 2 could have been a tier 1 game. Act 2 is still one of the most phenomenal stories put to gaming media but man Act 3 failed hard.
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Post by ShadowAngel on Jun 19, 2017 0:25:26 GMT
I pretty much agree with most of it(ending wise, I could care less in how they build up and honestly I could argue most of those games listed). However Origins ending wasn't bad, and I'd argue it's the only DA game with a respectable ending cause inquisition relied on DLC to strengthen its own which I count vs it and DAII was a horrible game all around to me but it's later stages really just fell in on itself. Plus I'd downgrade Andromedas ending to good, it's not memorable to be great for me. plus I can pretty much agree with bioware traditionally being awful at setting up a good ending to their games, most are serviceable but nothing special. DA I ended in the base game Tresspasser wasn't an ending. It was set up. And DA 2 could have been a tier 1 game. Act 2 is still one of the most phenomenal stories put to gaming media but man Act 3 failed hard. DAII tier one? 𤢠Sorry, I just don't like hack and slash games(it's why I like DA:O combat over 2 and the inquisition), plus as you mentioned, third act (I call it the later stage) fell in on itself hard. It's story was alright start to about mid game, I liked most characters (Isabella is my bae, she'd be my avatar if morrigan wasn't my favorite DA character). Plus DAII removed race options, a big part of why I love the franchise, I didn't get to be an elf đ Then there's the fantasy of the joking hawke, I dispised all the sarcasm the protagonist had, I didn't mind it being a thing here or there but sarcasm was hawks specialty and they did it all the time where it was overused for me(like, it was awesome when I first played the game till I realized it carries on the rest of the way). I didnt like it enough enough to even buy/play the DLC, only bioware game to date that I haven't done DLC for, which kinda sucks cause I've never bothered even seeing what they were about which has always had me curious.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 1:07:32 GMT
DA I ended in the base game Tresspasser wasn't an ending. It was set up. And DA 2 could have been a tier 1 game. Act 2 is still one of the most phenomenal stories put to gaming media but man Act 3 failed hard. DAII tier one? 𤢠Sorry, I just don't like hack and slash games(it's why I like DA:O combat over 2 and the inquisition), plus as you mentioned, third act (I call it the later stage) fell in on itself hard. It's story was alright start to about mid game, I liked most characters (Isabella is my bae, she'd be my avatar if morrigan wasn't my favorite DA character). Plus DAII removed race options, a big part of why I love the franchise, I didn't get to be an elf đ Then there's the fantasy of the joking hawke, I dispised all the sarcasm the protagonist had, I didn't mind it being a thing here or there but sarcasm was hawks specialty and they did it all the time where it was overused for me(like, it was awesome when I first played the game till I realized it carries on the rest of the way). I didnt like it enough enough to even buy/play the DLC, only bioware game to date that I haven't done DLC for, which kinda sucks cause I've never bothered even seeing what they were about which has always had me curious. that's fair. I don't know that sarcasm was hawks specialty. There were other dialogue options you could use. Mind you maybe i didn't notice because that's essentially my sense of humour and as I've said I'd make all my RP characters have biting sarcasm or wry sarcasm if the option is available. Aside from that biggest complaints are the enemy spawn points and Isabella lol.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 19, 2017 2:35:00 GMT
DAII tier one? 𤢠Sorry, I just don't like hack and slash games(it's why I like DA:O combat over 2 and the inquisition), plus as you mentioned, third act (I call it the later stage) fell in on itself hard. It's story was alright start to about mid game, I liked most characters (Isabella is my bae, she'd be my avatar if morrigan wasn't my favorite DA character). Plus DAII removed race options, a big part of why I love the franchise, I didn't get to be an elf đ Then there's the fantasy of the joking hawke, I dispised all the sarcasm the protagonist had, I didn't mind it being a thing here or there but sarcasm was hawks specialty and they did it all the time where it was overused for me(like, it was awesome when I first played the game till I realized it carries on the rest of the way). I didnt like it enough enough to even buy/play the DLC, only bioware game to date that I haven't done DLC for, which kinda sucks cause I've never bothered even seeing what they were about which has always had me curious. that's fair. I don't know that sarcasm was hawks specialty. There were other dialogue options you could use. Mind you maybe i didn't notice because that's essentially my sense of humour and as I've said I'd make all my RP characters have biting sarcasm or wry sarcasm if the option is available. Aside from that biggest complaints are the enemy spawn points and Isabella lol. Pretty sure the biggest complaints were the reused assets and the âpush a button something awesome happensâ combat.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 2:39:36 GMT
that's fair. I don't know that sarcasm was hawks specialty. There were other dialogue options you could use. Mind you maybe i didn't notice because that's essentially my sense of humour and as I've said I'd make all my RP characters have biting sarcasm or wry sarcasm if the option is available. Aside from that biggest complaints are the enemy spawn points and Isabella lol. Pretty sure the biggest complaints were the reused assets and the âpush a button something awesome happensâ combat. that pretty much describes the combat of every game ever.
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Post by smilesja on Jun 19, 2017 2:43:31 GMT
Pretty sure the biggest complaints were the reused assets and the âpush a button something awesome happensâ combat. that pretty much describes the combat of every game ever. Like The Witcher 3!
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Post by colfoley on Jun 19, 2017 2:46:02 GMT
that pretty much describes the combat of every game ever. Like The Witcher 3! i mean don't get me wrong i didn't care for the combat in DA 2 over much but i also didn't get this desire to describe it with such a description to describe every game ever.
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Post by suikoden on Jun 19, 2017 2:50:05 GMT
Pretty sure the biggest complaints were the reused assets and the âpush a button something awesome happensâ combat. that pretty much describes the combat of every game ever. Itâs unique to DA:2.
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 19, 2017 3:11:09 GMT
DA I ended in the base game Tresspasser wasn't an ending. It was set up. And DA 2 could have been a tier 1 game. Act 2 is still one of the most phenomenal stories put to gaming media but man Act 3 failed hard. DAII tier one? 𤢠Sorry, I just don't like hack and slash games(it's why I like DA:O combat over 2 and the inquisition), plus as you mentioned, third act (I call it the later stage) fell in on itself hard. It's story was alright start to about mid game, I liked most characters (Isabella is my bae, she'd be my avatar if morrigan wasn't my favorite DA character). Plus DAII removed race options, a big part of why I love the franchise, I didn't get to be an elf đ Then there's the fantasy of the joking hawke, I dispised all the sarcasm the protagonist had, I didn't mind it being a thing here or there but sarcasm was hawks specialty and they did it all the time where it was overused for me(like, it was awesome when I first played the game till I realized it carries on the rest of the way). I didnt like it enough enough to even buy/play the DLC, only bioware game to date that I haven't done DLC for, which kinda sucks cause I've never bothered even seeing what they were about which has always had me curious. You know, you only hear it everywhere if you use it often enough that it establishes the autodialogue to reflect that personality out of the 3.
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 19, 2017 11:27:51 GMT
let's through Biowares endings shall we? Traditionally it seems biowares endings have been weak. DAO: alright build up, bad ending. DA 2: terrible build up, bad ending. DAI: rushed build up, descent ending. ME 1: great build up, good ending. ME 2: terrible build up, terrific ending. ME 3: great build up, alright ending. MEA: great build up, great ending. Interesting point. I don't really agree about the DA ones - DAO had one of my fave endings, and tbh I felt DAI's build up was good and it's 'ending' - in Trespasser - to be amazing. DA2's ending wasn't just 'bad', its probably one of the worst endings I've ever seen (whoever thought up the whole 'your choices don't matter and everyone mutates into giant monsters then explodes' idea needs to be put back on his meds). But the ME ones sound more or less what I'd say. MEA is probably more 'uneven buildup'.
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