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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 27, 2017 19:04:09 GMT
I don't know, I rather see it as an evolution from ME1 and as such, I thought they did do a few pretty cool thnigs with it. For example, the weapon restrictions were there in ME1 as well in practice. Sure, every class had every weapon on their back but without having the skill for it, it was fairly useless. While skill progression was less untactful, ME2 was quite revolutionary in the new skills it introduced. Charge, tactical cloak, combat drones, all those player favorites were introduced by ME2 and Christina Norman's team when they completely overhauled the ME1 system. I agree that ME3 is the game when they really got the RPG elements and combat right but ME2 was a necessary step to get there. So I personally never got all that hate that ME2's RPG elements got. They may be restricted but IMO, they work well for the game that ME2 wanted to be and they broadened the gameplay in the ME series a lot. By 'the class system', I meant the way the skills were locked together how the player's decisions could be applied to them. The powers themselves were pretty much upgrades of all their ME1 predecessors (notably excluding Singularity, which I'm still not 100% convinced they really had a clear idea what it was supposed to be in ME2) and the new ones were awesome (CHARGE! REAVE!). ME2 is no way a train wreck or anything. Same goes for the guns. The new weapon selection system was a bit duff (particularly the lack of decent DPS full-auto gear, the Rev was the only one that ticked these boxes and was accessible by one class out of the six) but the guns themselves were great. |
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Post by abaris on Jun 27, 2017 19:09:31 GMT
Same goes for the guns. The new weapon selection system was a bit duff (particularly the lack of decent DPS full-auto gear, the Rev was the only one that ticked these boxes and was accessible by one class out of the six) but the guns themselves were great. The weapons system was never a strong suit of any ME game. Once you learned what worked, you stick with that. Absolutely no need for experiments. |
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 27, 2017 19:10:10 GMT
I don't know, I rather see it as an evolution from ME1 and as such, I thought they did do a few pretty cool thnigs with it. For example, the weapon restrictions were there in ME1 as well in practice. Sure, every class had every weapon on their back but without having the skill for it, it was fairly useless. While skill progression was less untactful, ME2 was quite revolutionary in the new skills it introduced. Charge, tactical cloak, combat drones, all those player favorites were introduced by ME2 and Christina Norman's team when they completely overhauled the ME1 system. I agree that ME3 is the game when they really got the RPG elements and combat right but ME2 was a necessary step to get there. So I personally never got all that hate that ME2's RPG elements got. They may be restricted but IMO, they work well for the game that ME2 wanted to be and they broadened the gameplay in the ME series a lot. By 'the class system', I meant the way the skills were locked together how the player's decisions could be applied to them. The powers themselves were pretty much upgrades of all their ME1 predecessors (notably excluding Singularity, which I'm still not 100% convinced they really had a clear idea what it was supposed to be in ME2) and the new ones were awesome (CHARGE! REAVE!). ME2 is no way a train wreck or anything. Same goes for the guns. The new weapon selection system was a bit duff (particularly the lack of decent DPS full-auto gear, the Rev was the only one that ticked these boxes and was accessible by one class out of the six) but the guns themselves were great. Oh, I see. Well yea, that's all fair enough. BTW, I think I never really used the Reverent much, even as a soldier. I prefer the Vindicator for it's accuracy. Triple headshots for the win.  abaris : I strongly disagree. I think ME3 in particular has one of the best weapon selections in any TPS type game. You have so many options, it's uncanny and all of them are unique in some way. You can adapt to enemy types, level architecture, class needs, which powers you choose. And especially with the mods (and the DLC mods on top) the range of possibilities you have is fantastic. There are a few overpowered ones in the bunch, that may be true but still, I change weapons and equipment quite often throughout the game to adapt. |
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Post by anarchy65 on Jun 27, 2017 19:15:22 GMT
Well, your "review" of The Witcher 3 could be valid if you didn't say so many things that are just not true LOL or complaining about absolutely minor things like "not being able to customize Geralt", which actually makes perfect sense, because Geralt is a character that already exists, unlike Shepard or Ryder (there are The Witcher books, on which the game was inspired), so changing his looks completely would be to insult the lore (as a Mass Effect Andromeda fan, I see why you wouldn't mind, but CDPR does, and so do I). And there are a lot of ways to customize your beard and your hair (no DLC required. There are DLCs that add more haircuts, but they are FREE). And seriously, criticizing the environment of The Witcher 3 is one of the dumbest things you can do, because it's absolutely awesome and immersive. You really feel there's a war going on when you're riding on a road and see a body without an arm, or people hanged on a tree, or villages burned to the ground. All of this while the weather changes and even Geralt's beard grow with time. And seriously guys, stop bitching about "giving a score before finishing the game", that's what SO FAR means. The score may change until the end of the game Which does go back to my point... incomplete playthroughs increase the odds of you being in error. From my partial playthrough of TW3 without DLC, I went into the barber in Oxenfurt and had exactly 3 choices for beard and haircut styles for which I had to pay 20 crowns to see on Geralt. You say there are more, so my review is in error. Your review of ME:A cannot carry the same weight as one from a person who has played the complete game because, as you even say so yourself, you could be wrong about the parts of the game you haven't yet played. The more you haven't played, the higher the odds that what you have played is not completely representative of the entire game. Bottom line though is my subjective opinion of TW3 is still negative and yours of ME:A is still negative... I don't trust your review of ME:A because my experience with the game has been much better and I have more hours into it than you. I'm finding the story quite intriguing and the character multi-dimensional. Seriously, the environments in the TW3 are very repetitive... you've seen one boreal forest in that game and you've seen them all. All the caves of Elven Ruins look very similar to me. One battlefield looks like all the rest. Oxenfurt and Novigrad don't even look all that different from each other. Many of the little houses in them have the same layouts... need I go on. Skellige looks a little more rugged... but to say that represents such great diversity in TW3 while claiming that ME:A's Eos, Voeld, and Havarl look anything alike seems to me to be pretty bizarre. First, I wanna know where I wrote "review". Did you at least read the subject? It says IMPRESSIONS on the game SO FAR. When I give the score, I said the same thing: SO FAR. Do you know what "SO FAR" means? It means it's the score I give based on what I played UNTIL NOW. I never claimed that these impressions are a review or that they carry the same weight of someone that played the game until the end, but I would say most of the impressions are pretty solid (gameplay, glitches and features removed especially, unless you tell me that after you reach half the game you are allowed to quick save). And seriously, when a game is so bad, you can see right from the beginning. You don't need to play 20 hours of Ride to Hell: Retribution to conclude it sucks. Obviously I'm not comparing both but the issues I faced won't change mid or late game, except for story and characters. If you read 50 pages of Twilight, you can already see the characters are bad written, you don't need to read all 4 books to realize it. The characters MIGHT surprise you on later books, but when you see such bad writing right on the beginning, it makes you doubt hard. And seriously, you HAVE to be joking on talking about this on TW3. I think the problem is really your vision if you can't see the absurd variety and beauty of the environment in The Witcher 3. And I never claimed Eos, Voeld and Havarl look alike, actually the environment of ME:A was one of the few things I complimented. This is really making me quest your sight (you can't see my compliments on the game, you see "review" where I never wrote such thing, you think the environments of TW3 all look the same) |
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 27, 2017 19:17:27 GMT
Same goes for the guns. The new weapon selection system was a bit duff (particularly the lack of decent DPS full-auto gear, the Rev was the only one that ticked these boxes and was accessible by one class out of the six) but the guns themselves were great. The weapons system was never a strong suit of any ME game. Once you learned what worked, you stick with that. Absolutely no need for experiments. I don't really get this. The first game was the only one that you didn't need to experiment. And honestly, I can't work out why anyone would look at anything from ME2 onwards and claim the weapons were bad. |
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Post by abaris on Jun 27, 2017 19:21:39 GMT
I don't really get this. The first game was the only one that you didn't need to experiment. And honestly, I can't work out why anyone would look at anything from ME2 onwards and claim the weapons were bad. Not bad. Simply not in need of experimentation. In ME3 I had a look at every weapon stat, upped the ones I liked to the maximum and stuck with them. Did the same with the crew and that was about it. |
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 27, 2017 19:34:34 GMT
I don't really get this. The first game was the only one that you didn't need to experiment. And honestly, I can't work out why anyone would look at anything from ME2 onwards and claim the weapons were bad. Not bad. Simply not in need of experimentation. In ME3 I had a look at every weapon stat, upped the ones I liked to the maximum and stuck with them. Did the same with the crew and that was about it. Well, I mean, you could say this about almost any game. They only way to avoid it is to have individual ammo types and then not to provide some in order to force people to use other weapons. But that would kinda go against the customization the people expect from an RPG. But the stats are all made for trade offs. Do you want a long range scoped weapon or not? Do you want accuracy or DPS, auto, single shot or burst. There are weapons with explosive projectiles, weapons that make specifically more damage to synthetic or organic enemies, etc. I guess if I had one complaint about the whole thing it wouldn't really be the weapons but rather that the game is a little bit too easy and there is a little too much ammo in the levels, so you don't really need to optimize. But that's a different story and also largely depends on individual preferences and skill. I am not sure how you could possible improve the situation by changing the weapon selection itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 19:41:00 GMT
Which does go back to my point... incomplete playthroughs increase the odds of you being in error. From my partial playthrough of TW3 without DLC, I went into the barber in Oxenfurt and had exactly 3 choices for beard and haircut styles for which I had to pay 20 crowns to see on Geralt. You say there are more, so my review is in error. Your review of ME:A cannot carry the same weight as one from a person who has played the complete game because, as you even say so yourself, you could be wrong about the parts of the game you haven't yet played. The more you haven't played, the higher the odds that what you have played is not completely representative of the entire game. Bottom line though is my subjective opinion of TW3 is still negative and yours of ME:A is still negative... I don't trust your review of ME:A because my experience with the game has been much better and I have more hours into it than you. I'm finding the story quite intriguing and the character multi-dimensional. Seriously, the environments in the TW3 are very repetitive... you've seen one boreal forest in that game and you've seen them all. All the caves of Elven Ruins look very similar to me. One battlefield looks like all the rest. Oxenfurt and Novigrad don't even look all that different from each other. Many of the little houses in them have the same layouts... need I go on. Skellige looks a little more rugged... but to say that represents such great diversity in TW3 while claiming that ME:A's Eos, Voeld, and Havarl look anything alike seems to me to be pretty bizarre. First, I wanna know where I wrote "review". Did you at least read the subject? It says IMPRESSIONS on the game SO FAR. When I give the score, I said the same thing: SO FAR. Do you know what "SO FAR" means? It means it's the score I give based on what I played UNTIL NOW. I never claimed that these impressions are a review or that they carry the same weight of someone that played the game until the end, but I would say most of the impressions are pretty solid (gameplay, glitches and features removed especially, unless you tell me that after you reach half the game you are allowed to quick save). And seriously, when a game is so bad, you can see right from the beginning. You don't need to play 20 hours of Ride to Hell: Retribution to conclude it sucks. Obviously I'm not comparing both but the issues I faced won't change mid or late game, except for story and characters. If you read 50 pages of Twilight, you can already see the characters are bad written, you don't need to read all 4 books to realize it. The characters MIGHT surprise you on later books, but when you see such bad writing right on the beginning, it makes you doubt hard. And seriously, you HAVE to be joking on talking about this on TW3. I think the problem is really your vision if you can't see the absurd variety and beauty of the environment in The Witcher 3. And I never claimed Eos, Voeld and Havarl look alike, actually the environment of ME:A was one of the few things I complimented. This is really making me quest your sight (you can't see my compliments on the game, you see "review" where I never wrote such thing, you think the environments of TW3 all look the same) So far does mean so far... It still doesn't make it carry the same weight as a complete one. I still also can disagree with your impressions. I can still give your impression less weight than someone else's impressions who has completed the game. You have another poster here claiming that an inability to complete the game should "count for something." It does... but not as much in the way of being likely to be accurate as a complete one. Why are you insisting that I should give the same weight to your impressions as to, say, anyone who has written their impressions down in the "Reviews based on completed playthroughs" thread? ... and as far as "environmental diversity"... I could say the same about your inability to see that a jungle and a desert and a snow covered planet are NOTHING alike. That the view from the top of Mithrava is nothing like the view from from the top of the Kett Facility on Voeld... and that both are quite spectacular. That the hoodoos of Eos do not appear on Elaaden. That the giant waterfalls of Aya don't appear on the other planets in the game. Whereas, the same boreal forests appear in Kaer Morhen, White Orchard, Velen, and Skellige. That there is very little diversity in the entire map of Velen, which is a huge portion of that game. (... and I do apologize for confusing that part of your review with someone else's - so that comment goes out to the various people who have said that the environments of ME:A lack variety, are "all desert" planets, etc.). There is more diversity of environment in ME:A than in TW3 (IMO). |
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Post by jaegerbane on Jun 27, 2017 19:41:56 GMT
I don't really get this. The first game was the only one that you didn't need to experiment. And honestly, I can't work out why anyone would look at anything from ME2 onwards and claim the weapons were bad. Not bad. Simply not in need of experimentation. In ME3 I had a look at every weapon stat, upped the ones I liked to the maximum and stuck with them. Did the same with the crew and that was about it. I'm in AnDromedary's camp here. I don't really get how you could say this about any, all or some of the ME games and not have it apply to pretty much any other game out there with a weapon system. I'm not even sure it's accurate to say you looked at the stats of the ME3 guns and worked out which one was best. The weapon stats in that game veered from meaningless to misleading. |
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Post by anarchy65 on Jun 27, 2017 20:26:38 GMT
First, I wanna know where I wrote "review". Did you at least read the subject? It says IMPRESSIONS on the game SO FAR. When I give the score, I said the same thing: SO FAR. Do you know what "SO FAR" means? It means it's the score I give based on what I played UNTIL NOW. I never claimed that these impressions are a review or that they carry the same weight of someone that played the game until the end, but I would say most of the impressions are pretty solid (gameplay, glitches and features removed especially, unless you tell me that after you reach half the game you are allowed to quick save). And seriously, when a game is so bad, you can see right from the beginning. You don't need to play 20 hours of Ride to Hell: Retribution to conclude it sucks. Obviously I'm not comparing both but the issues I faced won't change mid or late game, except for story and characters. If you read 50 pages of Twilight, you can already see the characters are bad written, you don't need to read all 4 books to realize it. The characters MIGHT surprise you on later books, but when you see such bad writing right on the beginning, it makes you doubt hard. And seriously, you HAVE to be joking on talking about this on TW3. I think the problem is really your vision if you can't see the absurd variety and beauty of the environment in The Witcher 3. And I never claimed Eos, Voeld and Havarl look alike, actually the environment of ME:A was one of the few things I complimented. This is really making me quest your sight (you can't see my compliments on the game, you see "review" where I never wrote such thing, you think the environments of TW3 all look the same) So far does mean so far... It still doesn't make it carry the same weight as a complete one. [...] Why are you insisting that I should give the same weight to your impressions as to, say, anyone who has written their impressions down in the "Reviews based on completed playthroughs" thread? Seriously now, I stopped reading here, now I'm pretty sure you are blind. I just said I NEVER claimed that my IMPRESSIONS have the same weight as a full review (I'll even quote my post for you: "I never claimed that these impressions are a review or that they carry the same weight of someone that played the game until the end"), and he says I'm "insisting that he should give the same weight to my impressions to a full review". Seriously, 1 out of 3: You're either blind, illiterate or stupid. Anyway, as Shepard would say, I should go. |
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Post by abaris on Jun 27, 2017 21:10:39 GMT
So far does mean so far... It still doesn't make it carry the same weight as a complete one. Someone not being able to finish something because they're not interested, certainly carries the same weight as someone having completed the game. It's just another subjective opionion. The feeling of something being that bland or bad that they simply don't want to see it through. Subjective of course, but it carries weight. At least the same weight as any individual review does. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:07:12 GMT
So far does mean so far... It still doesn't make it carry the same weight as a complete one. [...] Why are you insisting that I should give the same weight to your impressions as to, say, anyone who has written their impressions down in the "Reviews based on completed playthroughs" thread? Seriously now, I stopped reading here, now I'm pretty sure you are blind. I just said I NEVER claimed that my IMPRESSIONS have the same weight as a full review (I'll even quote my post for you: "I never claimed that these impressions are a review or that they carry the same weight of someone that played the game until the end"), and he says I'm "insisting that he should give the same weight to my impressions to a full review". Seriously, 1 out of 3: You're either blind, illiterate or stupid. Anyway, as Shepard would say, I should go. Seriously... you could have read my apology farther down in the post before insulting me in such a way. BTW... I now retract it. Shows something about you... can't finish a game, can't finish reading a post. 0% patience. |
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Post by anarchy65 on Jun 27, 2017 22:13:05 GMT
Seriously now, I stopped reading here, now I'm pretty sure you are blind. I just said I NEVER claimed that my IMPRESSIONS have the same weight as a full review (I'll even quote my post for you: "I never claimed that these impressions are a review or that they carry the same weight of someone that played the game until the end"), and he says I'm "insisting that he should give the same weight to my impressions to a full review". Seriously, 1 out of 3: You're either blind, illiterate or stupid. Anyway, as Shepard would say, I should go. Seriously... you could have read my apology farther down in the post before insulting me in such a way. BTW... I now retract it. Shows something about you... can't finish a game, can't finish reading a post. 0% patience. You apologized for misreading my impressions in relation to the environment of the game, but keeps saying that I'm insisting my impressions have the same weight of a full review, where I actually claim the opposite. And I'm showing a tremendous amount of patience, taking in account the amount of lies and bullshit you said about my posts so far and your illiteracy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:23:57 GMT
Seriously... you could have read my apology farther down in the post before insulting me in such a way. BTW... I now retract it. Shows something about you... can't finish a game, can't finish reading a post. 0% patience. You apologized for misreading my impressions in relation to the environment of the game, but keeps saying that I'm insisting my impressions have the same weight of a full review, where I actually claim the opposite. And I'm showing a tremendous amount of patience, taking in account the amount of lies and bullshit you said about my posts so far and your illiteracy. In the previous post to that one... I said someone else here was claiming that. We've have had a misunderstanding... but now, I'm not the one calling you blind, stupid, etc. So... |
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Post by Sondergaard on Jun 27, 2017 22:43:15 GMT
You apologized for misreading my impressions in relation to the environment of the game, but keeps saying that I'm insisting my impressions have the same weight of a full review, where I actually claim the opposite. And I'm showing a tremendous amount of patience, taking in account the amount of lies and bullshit you said about my posts so far and your illiteracy. In the previous post to that one... I said someone else here was claiming that. We've have had a misunderstanding... but now, I'm not the one calling you blind, stupid, etc. So... That was me! And I still think that an inability to finish a game because it is so uninteresting is a perfectly valid review. If I posted a 1/10 or 10/10 review before I finished a game I fully intended to complete it would be ridiculous. However, the very fact that a Mass Effect fanboy such as myself can't be bothered to finish the game is a situation worth mentioning and my opinion of the game carries just as much weight as anyone elses. |
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Post by colfoley on Jun 27, 2017 23:16:16 GMT
In the previous post to that one... I said someone else here was claiming that. We've have had a misunderstanding... but now, I'm not the one calling you blind, stupid, etc. So... That was me! And I still think that an inability to finish a game because it is so uninteresting is a perfectly valid review. If I posted a 1/10 or 10/10 review before I finished a game I fully intended to complete it would be ridiculous. However, the very fact that a Mass Effect fanboy such as myself can't be bothered to finish the game is a situation worth mentioning and my opinion of the game carries just as much weight as anyone elses. the issue is when you start making claims about the game whether opinion or fact that Just don't end up being true. And scoring a game or trying to judge it based on the 'first mission' (as some have) or after ten hours (as some have) seems awfully premature. |
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Well, your "review" of The Witcher 3 could be valid if you didn't say so many things that are just not true LOL or complaining about absolutely minor things like "not being able to customize Geralt", which actually makes perfect sense, because Geralt is a character that already exists, unlike Shepard or Ryder (there are The Witcher books, on which the game was inspired), so changing his looks completely would be to insult the lore (as a Mass Effect Andromeda fan, I see why you wouldn't mind, but CDPR does, and so do I). And there are a lot of ways to customize your beard and your hair (no DLC required. There are DLCs that add more haircuts, but they are FREE). And seriously, criticizing the environment of The Witcher 3 is one of the dumbest things you can do, because it's absolutely awesome and immersive. You really feel there's a war going on when you're riding on a road and see a body without an arm, or people hanged on a tree, or villages burned to the ground. All of this while the weather changes and even Geralt's beard grow with time. And seriously guys, stop bitching about "giving a score before finishing the game", that's what SO FAR means. The score may change until the end of the game Which does go back to my point... incomplete playthroughs increase the odds of you being in error. From my partial playthrough of TW3 without DLC, I went into the barber in Oxenfurt and had exactly 3 choices for beard and haircut styles for which I had to pay 20 crowns to see on Geralt. You say there are more, so my review is in error. Your review of ME:A cannot carry the same weight as one from a person who has played the complete game because, as you even say so yourself, you could be wrong about the parts of the game you haven't yet played. The more you haven't played, the higher the odds that what you have played is not completely representative of the entire game. Bottom line though is my subjective opinion of TW3 is still negative and yours of ME:A is still negative... I don't trust your review of ME:A because my experience with the game has been much better and I have more hours into it than you. I'm finding the story quite intriguing and the character multi-dimensional. Seriously, the environments in the TW3 are very repetitive... you've seen one boreal forest in that game and you've seen them all. All the caves of Elven Ruins look very similar to me. One battlefield looks like all the rest. Oxenfurt and Novigrad don't even look all that different from each other. Many of the little houses in them have the same layouts... need I go on. Skellige looks a little more rugged... but to say that represents such great diversity in TW3 while claiming that ME:A's Eos, Voeld, and Havarl look anything alike seems to me to be pretty bizarre. Let's compare fauna (wildlife): TW3: wolf, hare, bear, and deer. and we'll add in the domestic animals: pig, sheep, goat, cow, chicken, goose, raven, and bees (total = 12). ME:A - Manta, Kaerkyn, Shemrys, Challyrion, Eiroch, Taurg, Drall, Galorn, Ryikor, Wild Adhi, and Remnant Creeper (total = 12); Wiki also lists Ancient Eiroch (total 13). Seems pretty even to me. Your attempts to draw comparison between the Witcher 3 and Andromeda are becoming a little tiresome Redux, not least of which because the vast majority of what you say is patently not true. I mean, just taking your last point about the fauna in TW3, you fail to mention that the game has cats, dogs, herds of horses, wild boar, panthers, rats and whales, to say nothing of the multitude of creatures and monsters that litter that fantastic gameworld. Come on now! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 0:00:32 GMT
Which does go back to my point... incomplete playthroughs increase the odds of you being in error. From my partial playthrough of TW3 without DLC, I went into the barber in Oxenfurt and had exactly 3 choices for beard and haircut styles for which I had to pay 20 crowns to see on Geralt. You say there are more, so my review is in error. Your review of ME:A cannot carry the same weight as one from a person who has played the complete game because, as you even say so yourself, you could be wrong about the parts of the game you haven't yet played. The more you haven't played, the higher the odds that what you have played is not completely representative of the entire game. Bottom line though is my subjective opinion of TW3 is still negative and yours of ME:A is still negative... I don't trust your review of ME:A because my experience with the game has been much better and I have more hours into it than you. I'm finding the story quite intriguing and the character multi-dimensional. Seriously, the environments in the TW3 are very repetitive... you've seen one boreal forest in that game and you've seen them all. All the caves of Elven Ruins look very similar to me. One battlefield looks like all the rest. Oxenfurt and Novigrad don't even look all that different from each other. Many of the little houses in them have the same layouts... need I go on. Skellige looks a little more rugged... but to say that represents such great diversity in TW3 while claiming that ME:A's Eos, Voeld, and Havarl look anything alike seems to me to be pretty bizarre. Let's compare fauna (wildlife): TW3: wolf, hare, bear, and deer. and we'll add in the domestic animals: pig, sheep, goat, cow, chicken, goose, raven, and bees (total = 12). ME:A - Manta, Kaerkyn, Shemrys, Challyrion, Eiroch, Taurg, Drall, Galorn, Ryikor, Wild Adhi, and Remnant Creeper (total = 12); Wiki also lists Ancient Eiroch (total 13). Seems pretty even to me. Your attempts to draw comparison between the Witcher 3 and Andromeda are becoming a little tiresome Redux, not least of which because the vast majority of what you say is patently not true. I mean, just taking your last point about the fauna in TW3, you fail to mention that the game has cats, dogs, herds of horses, wild boar, panthers, rats and whales, to say nothing of the multitude of creatures and monsters that litter that fantastic gameworld. Come on now! OK... so the total wildlife (including domestic) for TW3 is now 19. I also missed out a couple in ME:A... the creature eating the wires and doesn't Ryder get some sort of pet later on? So, say, now 19 to 15 in favor of TW3. Still... not dramatically different. Enemies (monsters) didn't even list any for either game. ME:A has us scan 20, so there are at least that many. Enough variety that claims that 1) all the planets are desert 2) all the worlds are barren 3) Bioware only introduced 1 new species are all clearly false. (all of which have been statements made by others here at BSN - although not by this particular OP). Also, note my score for TW3 is only 2 points below the critics' average for the Xbox One. Still a pretty decent score for a game I truly disliked. The score the OP gave ME:A is 4 points below the critics' average. TW3 was not metabombed at release and the user scores are very close to the critics' scores (91 critics 9.2 users). ME:A, on the other hand, was metabombed and the spread between critics' scores and users scores is much greater. This OP is even below the average user score. |
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Post by mugwump v1 on Jun 28, 2017 0:12:24 GMT
Your attempts to draw comparison between the Witcher 3 and Andromeda are becoming a little tiresome Redux, not least of which because the vast majority of what you say is patently not true. I mean, just taking your last point about the fauna in TW3, you fail to mention that the game has cats, dogs, herds of horses, wild boar, panthers, rats and whales, to say nothing of the multitude of creatures and monsters that litter that fantastic gameworld. Come on now! OK... so the total wildlife (including domestic) for TW3 is now 19. I also missed out a couple in ME:A... the creature eating the wires and doesn't Ryder get some sort of pet later on? So, say, now 19 to 15 in favor of TW3. Still... not dramatically different. Enemies (monsters) didn't even list any for either game. ME:A has us scan 20, so there are at least that many. Yeah, you're reaching Redux. I mean, if I wanted to be equally pedantic, I could easily point out that several types of bear and wolf populate that world and insist that we include the creatures and monsters of the game into our considerations. In any case, and this coming from someone who really enjoys your posts, do try to pick your wickets a little more carefully if you want to be taken seriously. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jun 28, 2017 0:20:03 GMT
And I also don't care if you don't care if I like it or not.  But I can also voice my opinion, as that is what one does in a forum. And don't call me an idiot. That's I didn't say Anything that insulted your intelligence in your forum rant, I would expect the same respect. I didn't say you were an idiot, I said you were being an idiot, that's a big difference. And you really were, you just ranted to try to feel superior, and you LIED about my thread's objective, saying it's to "kill people's enjoyment of the game", which is just stupid. I could have created a thread where I say "OMG THIS GAME SUCKS WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT", but I didn't, I created a topic with constructive criticism and you came to rant to try to feel superior just because you like the game. You should be the one to have more respect before accusing people like that. There's really not a difference between calling someone an idiot and saying they are being an idiot. Both insult intelligence. You can't say "I didn't say you were a murderer. I just said you were being a murderer." Logic doesn't work like that. And I didn't lie about your thread, because I never said you posted your OP to kill people's enjoyment of the game. I stated that your negative review would NOT kill MY enjoyment of the game, but I never stated that that was your intention. I never accused you of anything. I think you might need to go reread what I actually wrote, as your interpretation of it doesn't come from what I actually wrote. |
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Post by suikoden on Jun 28, 2017 0:36:24 GMT
That was me! And I still think that an inability to finish a game because it is so uninteresting is a perfectly valid review. If I posted a 1/10 or 10/10 review before I finished a game I fully intended to complete it would be ridiculous. However, the very fact that a Mass Effect fanboy such as myself can't be bothered to finish the game is a situation worth mentioning and my opinion of the game carries just as much weight as anyone elses. the issue is when you start making claims about the game whether opinion or fact that Just don't end up being true. And scoring a game or trying to judge it based on the 'first mission' (as some have) or after ten hours (as some have) seems awfully premature. If someone put a literal piece of crap in front of you and said "eat it" - and you were like... "No...that's gross". And then he was like "But you haven't even tried it, it gets better when you finish the last bite..." Everyone has different tastes I guess. It's a 4/10. |
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Post by anarchy65 on Jun 28, 2017 1:36:41 GMT
I didn't say you were an idiot, I said you were being an idiot, that's a big difference. And you really were, you just ranted to try to feel superior, and you LIED about my thread's objective, saying it's to "kill people's enjoyment of the game", which is just stupid. I could have created a thread where I say "OMG THIS GAME SUCKS WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT", but I didn't, I created a topic with constructive criticism and you came to rant to try to feel superior just because you like the game. You should be the one to have more respect before accusing people like that. There's really not a difference between calling someone an idiot and saying they are being an idiot. Both insult intelligence. You can't say "I didn't say you were a murderer. I just said you were being a murderer." Logic doesn't work like that. And I didn't lie about your thread, because I never said you posted your OP to kill people's enjoyment of the game. I stated that your negative review would NOT kill MY enjoyment of the game, but I never stated that that was your intention. I never accused you of anything. I think you might need to go reread what I actually wrote, as your interpretation of it doesn't come from what I actually wrote. Yes, there is a big difference. If I say you are an idiot, it means you're an entire idiot. If I say you're being an idiot right now, it means you're making an idiotic thing. You can make stupid things and actually be an intelligent person Or you think Einstein never made anything stupid? And you didn't accuse me directly, but why say I'm not going to kill your enjoyment if that was never my intention? I created this thread to show a constructive criticism and you answered it by ranting. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 28, 2017 1:40:28 GMT
the issue is when you start making claims about the game whether opinion or fact that Just don't end up being true. And scoring a game or trying to judge it based on the 'first mission' (as some have) or after ten hours (as some have) seems awfully premature. If someone put a literal piece of crap in front of you and said "eat it" - and you were like... "No...that's gross". And then he was like "But you haven't even tried it, it gets better when you finish the last bite..." Everyone has different tastes I guess. It's a 4/10. Analogies can be difficult. |
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Post by anarchy65 on Jun 28, 2017 1:43:32 GMT
Now the game is just randomly crashing... I think I'll give it a 2/10 instead.
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Post by anarchy65 on Jun 28, 2017 2:20:22 GMT
And now I tried to return to the Nexus FOUR times in a row and the game froze during the cutscene all four times. How can anyone give this worthless piece of shit a score higher than 5/10 is beyond me, this game has more performance issues and glitches than Assassin's Creed Unity on release, and I'm playing it PATCHED.
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