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Post by Daft Arbiter on Aug 20, 2017 2:02:39 GMT
Then it's Casey's call, or Drew's, or whoever else with authority speaks on the subject. They don't have to work on it though. As long as they say it's canon, then that's the end of it. Fair enough. But Casey Hudson never said Andromeda is canon. He had a minimal role in the game. If he (or any of his lore proxies) never says anything about it, then I guess you're free to assume whatever you want. Ordinarily a dev would come out and say something (many people, including myself, only accepted TESO as canon when Zenimax/Bethesda's lore people confirmed it) in an effort to support a potentially controversial game. But since Bioware isn't circling the wagons on MEA, it is possible that they don't intend to do anything with it, even on a matter as fundamental as this. As a general rule though, I'd say that a major installment in a franchise is canon unless someone says otherwise.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 20, 2017 2:03:59 GMT
Just because a game doesn't get planned DLC or further updates doesn't mean that it's a failure. Just that it wasn't a huge success. We don't know the exact reasons why it was cancelled. It could have been due to reshuffling of priorities due to the new director at Bioware. A reasonable response.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 2:21:45 GMT
Just because a game doesn't get planned DLC or further updates doesn't mean that it's a failure. Just that it wasn't a huge success. We don't know the exact reasons why it was cancelled. It could have been due to reshuffling of priorities due to the new director at Bioware. I think it might have something to do with
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Post by Qolx on Aug 20, 2017 2:30:17 GMT
The game is canon for all I care. It's still Faildromeda. :poop:
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Post by Blast Processor on Aug 20, 2017 2:32:48 GMT
The "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. It was a huge, major retcon so Bioware could get a fresh start and do a soft reboot... yet that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder then, when you play the original trilogy, the true Mass Effect, will you consider Andromeda canon or play it as it was meant to be? Sure. But who cares tho?
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 20, 2017 2:45:01 GMT
I'm not sure why it matters what people consider canon or not. The events happen regardless of what people prefer to believe.
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Post by Steelcan on Aug 20, 2017 3:09:58 GMT
Its canon in the same way that the Star Wars prequels, Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, and Halo 5 are canon
which is to say canon, but I hate it
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Post by smilesja on Aug 20, 2017 3:19:18 GMT
It's canon, no matter what people think of it.
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Post by Seera1024 on Aug 20, 2017 3:28:32 GMT
Just because a game doesn't get planned DLC or further updates doesn't mean that it's a failure. Just that it wasn't a huge success. We don't know the exact reasons why it was cancelled. It could have been due to reshuffling of priorities due to the new director at Bioware. I think it might have something to do with But just because of that, doesn't make the game a failure. Here's the scale of how well a game does: Huge Failure ---- Failure --- Barely a success --- Success -- Huge Success I think most can agree that the game isn't a huge failure or a huge success. We wouldn't be having this discussion if it was a huge success, and the last quarter results show it wasn't a huge failure. We don't know enough to know if the DLC and further updates were cancelled due to the game failing.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Aug 20, 2017 3:29:05 GMT
Andromeda was just someone's sick, twisted dream. Yes. That's it.
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Post by suikoden on Aug 20, 2017 3:33:19 GMT
I think it might have something to do with But just because of that, doesn't make the game a failure. Here's the scale of how well a game does: Huge Failure ---- Failure --- Barely a success --- Success -- Huge Success I think most can agree that the game isn't a huge failure or a huge success. We wouldn't be having this discussion if it was a huge success, and the last quarter results show it wasn't a huge failure. We don't know enough to know if the DLC and further updates were cancelled due to the game failing. I think if there's money to be made... it would be made. Not sure how it could qualify as any sort of success when the studio that made it has been shut down, and the for the first time in the series' history, there's no DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2017 3:42:53 GMT
I plan to play the entire quadrology from Shepard to Ryder as a vigil of sorts to ME verse. All good things must come to an end, and I will miss the verse. All ME is canon to me, none of it - a failure. Then, to Anthem and beyond!
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Post by ArabianIGoggles on Aug 20, 2017 4:39:25 GMT
Andromeda was just someone's sick, twisted dream. Yes. That's it.
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Post by areskeith on Aug 20, 2017 4:43:48 GMT
Then it's Casey's call, or Drew's, or whoever else with authority speaks on the subject. They don't have to work on it though. As long as they say it's canon, then that's the end of it. Fair enough. But Casey Hudson never said Andromeda is canon. He had a minimal role in the game. And why would Casey not consider it canon?
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Post by spacev3gan on Aug 20, 2017 4:43:52 GMT
Yes. I consider it canon. Why not?
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Post by derrame on Aug 20, 2017 6:11:54 GMT
no, i dont consider it canno, but it depends on if there is MEA2 or a new ME and what happens then
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Post by mordingrimes on Aug 20, 2017 6:17:25 GMT
No.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 20, 2017 6:30:40 GMT
The "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. It was a huge, major retcon so Bioware could get a fresh start and do a soft reboot... yet that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder then, when you play the original trilogy, the true Mass Effect, will you consider Andromeda canon or play it as it was meant to be? I could go either way. It wasn't hugely problematic for me that they jumped to another galaxy. However, if we're returning to the MW, the only reason to make it not canon is so that the cast of MEA could be used in the MW. Otherwise, whether or not MEA is canon has little effect on the MW. I, for one, would like to see Scott and Sara again, as well as Drack, Kesh, Peebee and Reyes. More than those people, actually. I wouldn't mind a scene where the likes of Spender, Tann, Sloane and Addison met an untimely end in whatever conflict arises in a potential ME4. For the record, I never stopped playing the OT.
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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 20, 2017 11:41:47 GMT
The "Andromeda Initiative" never made sense. It was a huge, major retcon so Bioware could get a fresh start and do a soft reboot... yet that soft reboot has failed and has already been dropped. I wonder then, when you play the original trilogy, the true Mass Effect, will you consider Andromeda canon or play it as it was meant to be? I could go either way. It wasn't hugely problematic for me that they jumped to another galaxy. It's not hugely problematic, but I find it doesn't fit the OT at all. Not its technology which is more advanced than anything we see in the OT, especially the magic driver which should totally change how we travel in the Milk Way and the Nexus which a ship that breaks the rule that ships too big or too heavy are inviable. But also, the fact that everyone would have know of the Arks (but never mentioned them) can positively change the thought process of everyone during the Reaper war. All that discussion that if we lose we are extinct are suddenly not true anymore. When one plays the OT, one has to ignore Andromeda. So why bother considering it canon them? Of course you can, but I have a feeling many won't or simply won't care. Andromeda is something that doesn't feel part of Mass Effect.
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Post by LogicGunn on Aug 20, 2017 11:51:34 GMT
I consider it to have actually happened in the ME universe. But I also consider Shep to have survived the destruction ending. Others will disagree.
Cannon is a tricky issue, and one of the reasons why going back post trilogy to the MW will be like throwing a bag of manure at a fan. Long franchises in player choice games are a logical nightmare.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on Aug 20, 2017 11:53:10 GMT
Canon ? Not for me.
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Post by jclosed on Aug 20, 2017 11:54:32 GMT
Yes. I consider it canon. Why not? Agree.
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Post by Croatsky on Aug 20, 2017 11:54:35 GMT
It is canon, whatever you like it or not.
Deal with it.
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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 20, 2017 11:57:52 GMT
It is canon, whatever you like it or not. Deal with it. Nope. One thing that Andromeda didn't butcher is the fact that Mass Effect is still your story. And so I feel I can consider that my story is as it was meant to be, with no Arks, no magic driver, no nothing of Andromeda. But if you can quote me a passage from the OT talking about the Arks I'd change my mind.
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Post by bizantura on Aug 20, 2017 12:00:30 GMT
The trilogy is Mass Effect for me.
MEA, a slick shooter trying to belong to the ME universe.
The trilogy will always be on my drive, MEA not, like many forgettable games.
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