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Post by geth47 on Aug 22, 2017 13:39:22 GMT
This whole headcanon thing started innocently decades ago as fans toyed around with contradictory informations and tried to come up with ways of fixing a faulty continuity. I saw a lot of this kind of mental gymnastics among DC Comic readers and Star Trek fans in the 80s and 90s.
Nowadays, headcanoning things in and out of continuity has reached a whole new level. It became the mental equivalent of a safe zone for the weak minded and insecure. A way to "punish" (or so they think) works that hurt their fragile feelings by demoting them to apocryphal status. At least in their own conception.
This is symptomatic of a culture of weakness that demoted truth and reality to a subjective status while placing too much emphasis on "feeling good" and avoiding anything that might hurt, contradict or irritate the person. Tell the youngsters too many times that they can create their own reality and define what is true and this is the expected and logical result.
Just some final conclusions, I believe. I think my previous post on this topic was long enough.
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Post by abaris on Aug 22, 2017 14:53:25 GMT
This is symptomatic of a culture of weakness that demoted truth and reality to a subjective status while placing too much emphasis on "feeling good" and avoiding anything that might hurt, contradict or irritate the person. Tell the youngsters too many times that they can create their own reality and define what is true and this is the expected and logical result. Well, gaming is supposed to make you feel good. It's by design not something that should leave you in a state of depression or anger. The real world is more than enough to cover anyone's need of feeling depressed or angry. So I'd say, let them headcanon all they like, if it rocks anyone's boat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 15:38:38 GMT
I'm not sure. Some part is connected to the trilogy, with the whole reason why they went there in the first place. It's not a complete failure though. I had fun, as well as some frustration. I'm sure I've seen plenty of videos of people losing it over being beaten by a boss. It was where the term nerd rage came from. Then again, it's all in how you as a person deal with the situation that determines whether you feel angry or depressed.
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Post by geth47 on Aug 22, 2017 15:57:57 GMT
This is symptomatic of a culture of weakness that demoted truth and reality to a subjective status while placing too much emphasis on "feeling good" and avoiding anything that might hurt, contradict or irritate the person. Tell the youngsters too many times that they can create their own reality and define what is true and this is the expected and logical result. Well, gaming is supposed to make you feel good. It's by design not something that should leave you in a state of depression or anger. The real world is more than enough to cover anyone's need of feeling depressed or angry. So I'd say, let them headcanon all they like, if it rocks anyone's boat. Like I said previously, people are free to play with things in their minds. It's only healthy to fantasise. The problem begins when people start mixing their own private flights of fancy with reality. Nobody aside from EA/Bioware has the authority to canonize or demote from canon status anything related to their trademarked mass effect franchise. These are the harsh facts and people have to deal with them, whether they like it or not. Personal headcanons are self-indulgences, with the same value as fanfiction. But they bear no effect over the source material. As much as it may displease some (or even many) the official canon is the one that stands.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 22, 2017 17:58:12 GMT
It's canon deal with it. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean your head-canon supercedes it. Sometimes you just gotta suck it up and...
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Post by steamshipman on Aug 22, 2017 22:57:48 GMT
Let's imagine (for entertainment reasons) that Bioware released DLC (for mockery reasons) which will be isometric top-down shooter where Ryder kills angara children with krogan banhammer in one hand and revolver in other and shouts "Thats artistic integrity for ya!" all the time. And reapears are coming because obviously live in Andromeda needs to be preserved too.
And suck it up like a good good sheep.
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Post by Garo on Aug 22, 2017 23:03:15 GMT
Nah, it's fanfic.
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Post by SofNascimento on Aug 22, 2017 23:59:22 GMT
Well, gaming is supposed to make you feel good. It's by design not something that should leave you in a state of depression or anger. The real world is more than enough to cover anyone's need of feeling depressed or angry. So I'd say, let them headcanon all they like, if it rocks anyone's boat. Like I said previously, people are free to play with things in their minds. It's only healthy to fantasise. The problem begins when people start mixing their own private flights of fancy with reality. Nobody aside from EA/Bioware has the authority to canonize or demote from canon status anything related to their trademarked mass effect franchise. These are the harsh facts and people have to deal with them, whether they like it or not. Personal headcanons are self-indulgences, with the same value as fanfiction. But they bear no effect over the source material. As much as it may displease some (or even many) the official canon is the one that stands. Alas, you're correct. Andromeda did a damage that simply cannot be fixed, only ignored. And that's what I asked, really. If people, personally, took Andromeda into consideration or not.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 23, 2017 0:00:48 GMT
Consideration of what?
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Post by mannyray on Aug 23, 2017 1:55:46 GMT
Let's imagine (for entertainment reasons) that Bioware released DLC (for mockery reasons) which will be isometric top-down shooter where Ryder kills angara children with krogan banhammer in one hand and revolver in other and shouts "Thats artistic integrity for ya!" all the time. And reapears are coming because obviously live in Andromeda needs to be preserved too. And suck it up like a good good sheep. sucking it up like good sheep implies you automatically consider it good because its canon. On the contrary, we would simply have to bitterly accept this as canon. By all means shout from the highest mountain that such a scenario would suck, and it was a mindnumbingly stupid idea. however, it's still canon. Our powers as fans end where our preferences begin. we simply have no control over canon.
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Post by griffith82 on Aug 23, 2017 3:24:48 GMT
It's cannon and I'm glad it is.
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Post by mannyray on Aug 23, 2017 3:37:46 GMT
It's cannon and I'm glad it is. Me too. The story was poorly executed but there's no reason to dump the premise or not continue where this game left off. Put it about five years in the future, don't hire someone who never kissed a girl or went outside before to write the characters, give us a pushing-30 Ryder who's older a little more confident and about to face the true nature of the scourge as the mysteries of the Andromeda galaxy continue to unfold.
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Post by areskeith on Aug 23, 2017 5:26:10 GMT
It's canon as the next story in the Mass Effect series, not being part of the Trilogy won't change that
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Post by ATR16 on Aug 23, 2017 19:26:55 GMT
Andromeda doesn't exist to me canon wise, has nothing to do with it being good or bad but with so many things that make no sense. How do we get there? There really isn't any tech to do that previously but now there is? What of the biotic display on the Asari Ark? Did they just get super charged to shield an ENTIRE ship? Andromeda plays around way to much with Lore for it to be serious canon to me. The whole story reads like fan fiction with the amount of hand waving of established rules in the universe being ignored. Its almost like they were given a separate space game and then were asked to write it into the Mass Effect world in one draft.
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Post by danishgambit on Aug 24, 2017 18:34:35 GMT
I don't see why it wouldn't be cannon. They can always leave Andromeda as a stand-alone story if they want to move on. The last thing we need is that Star Wars debacle with loads of books suddenly not being cannon anymore.
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