We can accept now that Andromda was a failure. But do you consider it canon?

If Shepard doesn't know about the Andromeda Initiative what makes you think she'll have any reason to believe the Krogan will survive there? None of your decisions are affected by it because Shepard doesn't know. Moot point. All of it. How do you not understand this?

edit: Even if you did know, you have no idea if the Krogan will survive. You have no idea what will happen during a 600-year journey. The arks could fail and all inhabitants die. There could be no hospitable worlds. And it's not implied that the Krogan will die off if you don't cure the genophage. I always sabotage it because they are managing a stable population rate and if I cure it, in 10 years I'll have a Krogan problem and not a Reaper problem.

You are acting like this is the first ever retcon in Mass Effect.

Mass Effect has had retcons during the trilogy and the initative isn't the biggest one.

"Know" is awfully strong there. Shepard doesn't know that the AI will even succeed. Hope, perhaps.

I dunno about that. There are tons of things which never came up in conversation that Shepard nevertheless knew about. For instance, Alliance political leadership before the Reapers blew it up; Shepard presumably knew who was president (or whatever the title was) even if we don't.

The AI might have kept it fairly secretive to avoid controversy over choose who goes and who doesn't. And while the Alliance may have known about it, unless they knew about it prior to Shepard's death, Shepard may not have been told afterward due to his ties to Cerberus. And it may just have not crossed anyone's mind during ME3.

That's not how this works.

That's a possibility. Mass Effect 4(?), which only starts to optionally incorporate acknowledgement of MEA and if things get good again in the 2020s might revisit as a relatively cheaper made secondary series. lol

MEA, just an experiment while making Anthem and moving into MP and open world experiments! Woo!

While pretending to be a AAA main title .

I tend to see it as a mainline spinoff if highly successful, but more likely now to be treated as a spinoff with mainline resources. Just more likely though.

I don't see them ignoring Andromeda. I just don't. However, I don't think its a confirmed thing that a next game will care to focus on Andromeda's matters now.

In any case, Andromeda was always a MET (numbered 'main titles') spinoff. The question was whether we'd buy into it. I think enough of us saw that if EA/Bioware wasn't buying into it as much as the other games, neither would we.

Like I was getting at above - I wouldn't mind if a ME4 (or whatever) redeems the series and with this upswing it allows allocated resources for a team to make relatively cheaper (no 'main line possibility' expectations) Andromeda games that continue an exploratory adventure with the benefit of adding all sorts of new lore to the universe that can be absorbed by a main series in other ways. I don't predict it at all, but its the sort of thing that'd really jive with my interests. A Milky Way of epic action at home and an Andromeda of zipping around an unknown space, with intersections at times? Yeah, I'm certainly interested in checking that out. But its not a thing I'd expect from EA.

In MEA continuity, Shepard would have known of the Ai's existence. However, he would have known, and especially cared less than Liara. The effort of 10ks people of various species, even a particularly prepared effort, is still nothing in the face of the deaths of trillions. "It would be easy for a ship to get lost out there" stuff of ME3 covers that. Ai is but one of the many glimmers of hope for survival of the MW species somewhere, and sure, its a retcon in being one of the brighter that doesn't get that distinguishing mention.

In any case, any ship or ships that leaves the Milky Way through whatever conventional or unconventional way, still has to come back or communicate back unconventionally, all of this a long shot. A portion of a single krogan clan went? Honestly? Whoop-di-doo. Even the Ai's people are painted as rather unrealistically idealist, and that's just about their normal plans for the Golden Worlds.

Its a particularly advanced form of the 'shoot a rich person's colony ship out and see if they make it'. Again, its 10ks of people. In the year of 2017 that's like a large town/small city, on Earth. I'm sure we/Shepard could also imagine some awesome ship by some species managing some great engine to flee the Milky Way DURING the war (again "Easy to imagine a ship getting lost out there.."), but again, that's just one of the many glimmers of hope that maybe not absolutely everything weighs on Shepard alone. We have similarly when it comes to the idea of some survivors managing in some vault like what happened in Ilos. But Shepard has to deal with the limited (though widely affecting) perspective they know, and that means that all life in the galaxy rests on what they do in this war.



Its true that the weakest part is that no arks and no Ai is mentioned in MEA. But this isn't new, for good or bad. ME2 didn't mention the Crucible, though it did mention or allude to the potential of Prothian tech to stop the Reapers. ME1 didn't mention the Collectors, though it did portray how the Reapers can alter people and species.

So we have MEA, which may have a sequel/future game that gets into all sorts of new things, but probably as an extension of mentions or allusions within MEA. Not new.

And no one told him about Ark's before he meet Starchild ?

Pls