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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 19, 2017 14:31:17 GMT
Who? Besides in your imagination? You don't pay attention do you? well, I feel like you are talking to me. And Suikoden. And majesticjazz. And anyone else who was disappointed in this game. If you are talking to us, it is indeed you who are not paying attention.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 19, 2017 14:53:17 GMT
I agree that an excellent game could rise above the online mob. I just don't think that BioWare will be given/take another shot at it. The ME3 debacle was bad, and then we get this MEA reception. No IP runs forever. I think they'll let ME lie dormant for a long time, if not permanently. Well, I'm of the opposite mindset. No IP stays dead forever. I mean look at Star Wars, Mirror's Edge 2 or hell Will & Grace. There's countless examples of IP's that have been dormant for a long time only to come back. Still waiting for my next Ultima and Wing Commander games.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Sept 19, 2017 16:47:56 GMT
You don't pay attention do you? well, I feel like you are talking to me. And Suikoden. And majesticjazz. And anyone else who was disappointed in this game. If you are talking to us, it is indeed you who are not paying attention. Well now look at what you just did. You opened your mouth and made an assumption. No I actually I was not referring to you or those other 2.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 19, 2017 17:22:09 GMT
well, I feel like you are talking to me. And Suikoden. And majesticjazz. And anyone else who was disappointed in this game. If you are talking to us, it is indeed you who are not paying attention. Well now look at what you just did. You opened your mouth and made an assumption. No I actually I was not referring to you or those other 2. < ... reads "opened your mouth" ... > Welp, I didn't actually. I typed letters with my fingers. So, Mr SmartyPants, who are you talking about then? Really? Because, this whole "us against the world" thing you Andromedrones have going for you (in your minds) is funny sad. Nobody would have been mad if the game was good.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 19, 2017 17:31:11 GMT
Well now look at what you just did. You opened your mouth and made an assumption. No I actually I was not referring to you or those other 2. < ... reads "opened your mouth" ... > Welp, I didn't actually. I typed letters with my fingers. So, Mr SmartyPants, who are you talking about then? Really? Because, this whole "us against the world" thing you Andromedrones have going for you (in your minds) is funny sad. Nobody would have been mad if the game was good.Come on, you know that's not true. If the Internet has proven anything, it's that there will be people mad at everything. It could be the best thing in the world and there will be people mad and complaining.
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Post by Element Zero on Sept 19, 2017 17:56:37 GMT
I agree that an excellent game could rise above the online mob. I just don't think that BioWare will be given/take another shot at it. The ME3 debacle was bad, and then we get this MEA reception. No IP runs forever. I think they'll let ME lie dormant for a long time, if not permanently. Well, I'm of the opposite mindset. No IP stays dead forever. I mean look at Star Wars, Mirror's Edge 2 or hell Will & Grace. There's countless examples of IP's that have been dormant for a long time only to come back. Interesting examples. Star Wars has never been dead. It's a huge, always active IP. I've never played Mirror's Edge, though I thought I'd read that the second game was a commercial flop. I'd rather self-harm than watch Will & Grace, but it's the best example. It definitely rose from the abyss. I hope you're correct. My feeling is that it is deep on the shelf, but I'd love to play another Mass Effect game. It's my favorite IP in all of gaming.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Sept 19, 2017 17:58:00 GMT
Well now look at what you just did. You opened your mouth and made an assumption. No I actually I was not referring to you or those other 2. < ... reads "opened your mouth" ... > Welp, I didn't actually. I typed letters with my fingers. So, Mr SmartyPants, who are you talking about then? Really? Because, this whole "us against the world" thing you Andromedrones have going for you (in your minds) is funny sad. Nobody would have been mad if the game was good. Ahh yes "Andromedrones". I like something you don't. Get over it Oh and to some people it was good. Your subjective opinion is not objective fact. You need to be more open minded.
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Post by Serza on Sept 19, 2017 18:07:48 GMT
Hmm. A drone.
What do you think, am I a UAV, or a UCAV? UGV, perhaps?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 19, 2017 18:19:46 GMT
Hmm. A drone. What do you think, am I a UAV, or a UCAV? UGV, perhaps? USV.
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Post by Serza on Sept 19, 2017 18:20:38 GMT
Hmm. A drone. What do you think, am I a UAV, or a UCAV? UGV, perhaps? USV. You make a fine point.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 19, 2017 18:31:22 GMT
Well, I'm of the opposite mindset. No IP stays dead forever. I mean look at Star Wars, Mirror's Edge 2 or hell Will & Grace. There's countless examples of IP's that have been dormant for a long time only to come back. Interesting examples. Star Wars has never been dead. It's a huge, always active IP. I've never played Mirror's Edge, though I thought I'd read that the second game was a commercial flop. I'd rather self-harm than watch Will & Grace, but it's the best example. It definitely rose from the abyss. I hope you're correct. My feeling is that it is deep on the shelf, but I'd love to play another Mass Effect game. It's my favorite IP in all of gaming. Mass Effect may turn out to be like a dormant volcano. At best, I think Mass Effect would end up like Star Wars (before the prequels and new trilogy) continuing it's story via books and comics and where all ready starting to see that. I think a remaster of the OT is the best chance we see a game in the near future. Note: I don't think that has a 50% chance of happening.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 19, 2017 19:04:33 GMT
I am all for the underdog, and I love impossible odds.
I guess this game is the exception. I am bitter, and yes I do indeed take it out on some of you sometimes. That is shitty.
Sorry.
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Post by armass81 on Sept 19, 2017 19:12:27 GMT
Metroid: Other M was a disaster, and it was 7 years until we heard from another Metroid game (and no im not counting federation force, since pretty much no one wanted that game).
We might be looking for a similar time for the next ME game, if not even longer, since BW/EA is not Nintendo. But theres always hope. After all Metroid was always one of Nintendos "forgotten" frachises that was on a hiatus for long periods, and now its getting 2 new, hopefully good games. So perhaps ME will be back one day too, from the ashes.
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Post by malanek on Sept 19, 2017 21:04:46 GMT
I think they will start seriously working on one in 2-3 years (possibly scoping it sooner) and put in quite a bit of effort, probably 3-4 year development time from then. So anywhere between 5 and 7 years is my guess. It does depend somewhat on how Anthem and DA4 do along with the direction they want to take. If they scale back the open world part of it, the whole thing could be developed sooner.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Sept 19, 2017 22:44:33 GMT
I am all for the underdog, and I love impossible odds. I guess this game is the exception. I am bitter, and yes I do indeed take it out on some of you sometimes. That is shitty. Sorry. Well you just got some respect from me. It takes a lot to apologize especially on the internet. For the record I have plenty of criticisms of the game and think the trilogy is much better but I still enjoy the game despite it's flaws.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Sept 19, 2017 23:43:37 GMT
Voted for 2020 myself & my reasons are this:
BW planned to continue the IP as an ongoing space opera, so, I'd say that they have an idea of where they ant to go with the story already & the only thing that is to be decided, the direction of the game is not the narrative, but the gameplay. Does BW try open world again, this time with more content? Do they go back to the ME2/3 style? Do they turn it into a multiplayer first type of game, with just a short campaign (see CoD)? Do they do something else?
Once they have a direction in place, I'm sure they can put the game together rapidly, after all, wasn't this build of ME:A put together in less than 2 years?
Lastly, I believe that EA wants BW to be an annual release company (this is based on my own supposition, nothing else) & the sooner they can do that the better, for both them (cash) & the players (games they enjoy).
Just my opinion.
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Post by Guts on Sept 20, 2017 1:27:46 GMT
No matter what EA green lights, I suspect that it would meet with ire, ridicule and diminished sales. I think EA is smart enough to recognize this. I disagree. Anything Mass Effect related will come under intense scrutiny following the Andromeda fiasco and undoubtedly a degree of undeserved criticism. But a good game can easily rise above that. Of course, EA would have to put their faith in Bioware to deliver so I doubt that will happen until DA4 is released and they can see how that's received. And EA might just decide Bioware has too much baggage now and pull the plug on that as well. ME3 ending, Andromeda fiasco (Could've easily been avoided had it not been given to a team that was very inexperienced, I mean Omega wasn't exactly the most well received ME3 DLC), there was also that controversy revolving around the From Ashes DLC which was essentially Day 1 DLC. (Something gamers aren't too fond of, which was exacerbated by the fact that it had a Prothean squadmate)
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Post by Guts on Sept 20, 2017 1:29:02 GMT
Hmm. A drone. What do you think, am I a UAV, or a UCAV? UGV, perhaps? I believe I can fly!
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 20, 2017 3:35:13 GMT
With the Montreal studio now merged with Motive and Edmonton working on Anthem and DA4, I don't foresee any real movement on the next ME until those games are out (~2020). So I can't see anything released before 2023 (or later) if they plan to continue with the franchise.
And I suspect even that could move around some depending on how successful Anthem & DA4 are. But the real issue will be - who will make these games? I can't imagine Edmonton alone juggling 3 AAA games of this scope unless they grow their studio out considerably, or have another studio take on the bulk of the work for at least one of these games.
And BW Austin is busy with SW, some New IP, and helping a little with Anthem so unless they completely switch gears at some point and take on the majority of work for one of those franchises, something will have to give.
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Post by SwobyJ on Sept 20, 2017 13:04:01 GMT
2017 - Only if they shock us with DLC (NO) 2018 - Only if they shock us with a 'standalone' smaller game (NO) 2019 - Only if they're so serious about a continuing storyline of MEA (NO) 2020 - Only if they get on a sequel to MEA ASAP (MAYBE) 2021 - Soonest reasonable time to get a sequel to MEA in some sense (MAYBE) 2022 - Soonest reasonable time to get another game, 'sequel' to MEA or not (MAYBE) 2023 - Soft-reboot time (?) 2024 - Soft-reboot time (?) 2025 - Harder-reboot time (?)
Basically they could release something late 2010s but I wouldn't predict that at all, or they could release a follow up (to some degree) to MEA in early 2020s and that's the most likely to me, or they could try to return to the aging series in mid-to-late 2020s but I wouldn't expect MEA to apply much except as a background.
I'm *hoping* for a game by 2022. In 2018 we are supposedly getting Anthem (which will be relevant for at least a year or two after; I disregard any 'long year plans'), and in 2019 we may get DA4 (which will be relevant for at least a year after), so ~2021 I'll either want another sort of Bioware 'distraction' (in this regard) or another Mass Effect dammit. If they keep with Frostbite and the same overall 'console gen' for it, and don't get so sidetracked, I can see it being made quicker - 3-4 years max between games instead of ME3-MEA's 5. But it may depend on them giving a damn shortly before/during/after Anthem releases.
For all we know, Mass Effect is dead. Or the 'on ice' narrative only means that they're getting to it as soon as current projects are done (so 2019-2020 beginning, instead of 2018). Or the franchise is effectively 'asleep' but the heads are quite willing to get to it laterrrr (so sometime 2020s).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2017 18:02:26 GMT
The shoot the Starchild and lose was Bioware's way of telling them that they aren't going to do it.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 20, 2017 19:39:07 GMT
No matter what EA green lights, I suspect that it would meet with ire, ridicule and diminished sales. I think EA is smart enough to recognize this. I disagree. Anything Mass Effect related will come under intense scrutiny following the Andromeda fiasco and undoubtedly a degree of undeserved criticism. But a good game can easily rise above that. Of course, EA would have to put their faith in Bioware to deliver so I doubt that will happen until DA4 is released and they can see how that's received. And EA might just decide Bioware has too much baggage now and pull the plug on that as well. Heck, I predicted five years ago that anything that followed ME3 would be under a lot of hostile scrutiny. Did anyone believe me? Noooooo!
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Post by Iakus on Sept 20, 2017 19:40:42 GMT
Well, I'm of the opposite mindset. No IP stays dead forever. I mean look at Star Wars, Mirror's Edge 2 or hell Will & Grace. There's countless examples of IP's that have been dormant for a long time only to come back. Still waiting for my next Ultima and Wing Commander games. Well, if MMOs count, Shroud of the Avatar is supposed to be in early access...
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 20, 2017 19:45:31 GMT
I disagree. Anything Mass Effect related will come under intense scrutiny following the Andromeda fiasco and undoubtedly a degree of undeserved criticism. But a good game can easily rise above that. Of course, EA would have to put their faith in Bioware to deliver so I doubt that will happen until DA4 is released and they can see how that's received. And EA might just decide Bioware has too much baggage now and pull the plug on that as well. Heck, I predicted five years ago that anything that followed ME3 would be under a lot of hostile scrutiny. Did anyone believe me? Noooooo! I remember people being super wary after the ending debacle. At the time, I would've thought any ME game to follow would be doomed. The salinity of the oceans rose exponentially.
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