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Post by Frost on Mar 6, 2021 17:52:28 GMT
Your view on the potential quality of the game given the recent news (about it being single-player) vs what we knew from before (the game having live-service elements). Not sure if the title isn't being specific enough, but I'm not asking users to base their opinion on what they think the quality of the game will be (obviously, it's not out yet). It's asking your opinion of how you feel about the prospects of the game given that - NOW - it is considered to be a single-player only title; as opposed to being Live-Service title. Hopefully, that helps clarify things. A game being single-player only is a huge selling point for me, although it is not the only thing I consider when deciding to get a game (I still hate that I won't have the option to play as the Inquisitor and that they are changing pcs midstory). Because this poll is just about the move to single-player only, though, I picked optimistic.
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Post by sentinel87 on Mar 6, 2021 18:23:50 GMT
The live service was never really described in detail if I recall.
If it had gone forward I would have liked it to include free SP updates along with whatever MP content was released. If that had happened I would have no problem with a live service. If it was just MP I most likely wouldn't have been interested in it. I've never really enjoyed the combat in the DA series.
So I voted no change.
The possible upside to this is that hopefully this will mean more resources will go to the SP portion of the game, instead of being moved to other projects. But who knows what will go on internally at Bioware.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 6, 2021 19:29:58 GMT
Highly skeptical...
Two reboots already. I wonder if they even have a strong vision at this point. Might turn into another MEA situation.
Before the news I was 99% sure DA4 would be terrible. Now I guess it could be just bland.
So I guess my prediction has improved from pessimistic too just highly skeptical with a pinch of indifference for BioWare in general at this point.
Got my popcorn ready in any case!
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Post by SirSourpuss on Mar 6, 2021 20:04:39 GMT
I don't know who these 26 optimistic people are. It won't be as technically bad as Andromeda or Anthem was, but it will be another shade of bland, narratively, as every one of Bioware's games this past decade nearly.
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Post by biggydx on Mar 6, 2021 20:18:26 GMT
Your view on the potential quality of the game given the recent news (about it being single-player) vs what we knew from before (the game having live-service elements). Not sure if the title isn't being specific enough, but I'm not asking users to base their opinion on what they think the quality of the game will be (obviously, it's not out yet). It's asking your opinion of how you feel about the prospects of the game given that - NOW - it is considered to be a single-player only title; as opposed to being Live-Service title. Hopefully, that helps clarify things. Multi-player/live service aren't the same thing. A game can be multiplayer without being live service and vice versa. DA4 could still have a form or multiple forms of "live service". The reason why I brought up both multiplayer, and Live-Service, is because we knew from job postings from EA that BioWare was seeking talent to work on DA4's multiplayer mode (I'm trying to find a link to said job posting - or the thread here). We also know from Schreiers reporting that the game was rebooted into a live-service title. I'm fully aware the two aren't intertwined, and I've made multiple comments in the past about AC: Odyssey being a live-service game, even though it has no multiplayer to speak of. From BioWare's standpoint, the live-service aspect of their recent games have largely been attributable to the multiplayer side of the game (Anthem, Andromeda, Inquisition, and ME3).
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 7, 2021 2:14:12 GMT
A tiny bit less pessimistic? More because I just hate getting bothered with multiplayer content when I'm sitting down to play than because I have any real expectations for the game. The goofy cinematic trailer and promotional art have already alienated me pretty thoroughly.
Dinosaurs, flying castles, dumb-looking weapons that shoot energy arrows, ugly tight video gamey costumes that look nothing like real armor or clothes...
It's insane how good the Sacred Ashes trailer looks in hindsight.
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 7, 2021 2:26:10 GMT
Moved up a tick from "give absolutely zero fucks" to "maybe it won't be a complete dumpster fire".
Still not buying until I see a good 3-4 weeks' worth of reviews.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 7, 2021 3:09:13 GMT
As with all Bio games: indifferent/don't care. And yet you post regularly in forums dedicated to their games.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 7, 2021 3:54:11 GMT
As with all Bio games: indifferent/don't care. And yet you post regularly in forums dedicated to their games. As do others who criticize Bio. So what's your point?
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Post by Kabraxal on Mar 7, 2021 7:12:23 GMT
I don't know who these 26 optimistic people are. It won't be as technically bad as Andromeda or Anthem was, but it will be another shade of bland, narratively, as every one of Bioware's games this past decade nearly. Huh... and yet Andromeda is only beaten by ME2 and nothing can beat Inquisition. One bad game in Anthem and the horrid ME3 ending, Bioware has been doing well.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 7, 2021 7:22:21 GMT
I don't know who these 26 optimistic people are. It won't be as technically bad as Andromeda or Anthem was, but it will be another shade of bland, narratively, as every one of Bioware's games this past decade nearly. Huh... and yet Andromeda is only beaten by ME2 and nothing can beat Inquisition. One bad game in Anthem and the horrid ME3 ending, Bioware has been doing well. And even Anthem wasn't really that bad.
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Post by Fredward on Mar 7, 2021 8:19:22 GMT
And yet you post regularly in forums dedicated to their games. As do others who criticize Bio. So what's your point? TBF I don't understand anyone who continues to hang around a place if they are fundamentally disinterested and/or hostile towards the topic. Never have.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 7, 2021 8:25:06 GMT
As do others who criticize Bio. So what's your point? TBF I don't understand anyone who continues to hang around a place if they are fundamentally disinterested and/or hostile towards the topic. Never have. And I don't understand why people get their panties in a twist whenever someone says something that doesn't aline with what they'd say when a question is asked. Caused last I checked, 3 others also voted indifferent. So I don't know why you fanbois are signalling me out here....
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Post by Fredward on Mar 7, 2021 8:44:00 GMT
TBF I don't understand anyone who continues to hang around a place if they are fundamentally disinterested and/or hostile towards the topic. Never have. And I don't understand why people get their panties in a twist whenever someone says something that doesn't aline with what they'd say when a question is asked. Caused last I checked, 3 others also voted indifferent. So I don't know why you fanbois are signalling me out here.... PantiesInATwistMarine*
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 7, 2021 8:49:15 GMT
And I don't understand why people get their panties in a twist whenever someone says something that doesn't aline with what they'd say when a question is asked. Caused last I checked, 3 others also voted indifferent. So I don't know why you fanbois are signalling me out here.... PantiesInATwistMarine* If you're trying to get under my skin, you are failing miserably. Fredthefail*
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 7, 2021 11:58:52 GMT
Huh... and yet Andromeda is only beaten by ME2 and nothing can beat Inquisition. One bad game in Anthem and the horrid ME3 ending, Bioware has been doing well. I'd... seriously question wherever you got those stats, since you're putting them forth in such an objective light. In my eyes, ME3's ending beats out Andomeda's story and writing in their entirety by a country mile, and Inquisition is a cobbled-together Frankenstein's Monster of a game that might scrape together a spot above Andromeda and below DAII at the very bottom of the recent Bioware food chain, and even then mostly because of the trilogy its in. Haven't played Anthem, so can't comment on that. As for the 'why are you here if you're so disgruntled with Bioware' debate, this forum encompasses discussions about more than a dozen Bioware games, at least six or seven of which are widely beloved RPG classics. I don't see that being disappointed with Bioware's performance these past ten years should mean that you're not supposed to be a part of the discussion if you are or used to be seriously attached to their content and like to discuss it. I myself am hugely unsatisfied with the direction Bioware has taken and the quality of their work since after ME3, but whenever I play either Mass Effect or Dragon Age trilogy, or for that matter Kotor or Jade Empire or Neverwinter Nights or Baldur's Gate, then this is as good a place as any to discuss or vent or express thoughts and feelings about those things, and I definitely enjoy that even if the new games are far from promising and I don't mind saying so. And besides, there's nothing wrong with holding them to previously achieved standards. You do want good games, don't you? I'm sure Bioware would love it if their lackluster products and marketing generated nothing but positive responses because everyone with taste just minded their own business, but that's really not how a market is supposed to work.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Mar 7, 2021 12:36:32 GMT
And even Anthem wasn't really that bad. What are you even talking about? Anthem was undoubtedly the best game of 2019, if not the decade. It was so influential that EA decided to change how they marketed games, because they couldn't do Anthem justice and step down from mandated MP games, because no other MP game could match it. I mean, I know people are harsh to Anthem, but let's give it some credit, where credit is due. No other game was as successful as Anthem.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 7, 2021 14:00:48 GMT
I'm pretty sure the whole point of forums in general is for sad, lonely weirdos to be belligerent about stupid shit that doesn't matter, in order to distract from deep dissatisfaction with their own personal lives.
The question we should all be asking isn't "Why are you here?" but "Why am I here?".
Maybe we should all go get some fucking friends and then we'd all finally understand and appreciate multiplayer games more.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 7, 2021 16:41:25 GMT
I'm pretty sure the whole point of forums in general is for sad, lonely weirdos to be belligerent about stupid shit that doesn't matter, in order to distract from deep dissatisfaction with their own personal lives. The question we should all be asking isn't "Why are you here?" but "Why am I here?". Maybe we should all go get some fucking friends and then we'd all finally understand and appreciate multiplayer games more. That sounds really dumb and depressing. Good thing some of us use the forums for at least a little more than that. And maybe those of us above the age of twelve who adore multiplayer so much should just start thinking about what sorts of things we could theoretically do with our treasured and much-needed friends and social time besides... playing more video games.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 17:06:46 GMT
I voted no change.
I always assumed that DA4 would be a SP game so this article confirming that didn't change my expectations at all really.
What I will say about the recent news is that development for this game seems to have been an absolute shit show so far (from my tinfoil hat, armchair critic, fandom lurker perspective)
2 reboots, multiple departures, constantly changing project scope behind the scenes... doesn't look like its going well.
I also reckon that DA4 will release in 2023 at the latest (as of late EA have them on a release schedule of 1 game every 2 years) so DA4 will likely be rushed, even though it will be almost 10 years since DAI came out.
I expect DA4 to be a bit better than DAI & thats about it.
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Mar 7, 2021 17:47:40 GMT
And even Anthem wasn't really that bad. What are you even talking about? Anthem was undoubtedly the best game of 2019, if not the decade. It was so influential that EA decided to change how they marketed games, because they couldn't do Anthem justice and step down from mandated MP games, because no other MP game could match it. I mean, I know people are harsh to Anthem, but let's give it some credit, where credit is due. No other game was as successful as Anthem. I agree. I remember the day after Anthem's release, the whole city was buzzing. I was walking down the street and strangers were just suddenly high fiving each other and hugging each other after playing Anthem for the first time. Someone on the street said something that stuck with me to this day: They've captured the imagination of the entirety of this great nation, they're people we can all believe in and people with the desire and strength to change everything... Bioware could very well be the next trillion dollar company. The whole experience was surreal, did this happen in anyone's else city?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Mar 7, 2021 18:09:00 GMT
My opinion hasn't changed yet, at least not until we know more about the overall plot and companions especially for Dragon Age companions make the game for me, I'll need to look at them and listen to them for the entire game so they need to be interesting at least.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 7, 2021 18:10:38 GMT
No change. It will be like the previous DA games. They offered replay value. I don't see that changing with the next game.
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Post by ClarkKent on Mar 7, 2021 18:17:47 GMT
What are you even talking about? Anthem was undoubtedly the best game of 2019, if not the decade. It was so influential that EA decided to change how they marketed games, because they couldn't do Anthem justice and step down from mandated MP games, because no other MP game could match it. I mean, I know people are harsh to Anthem, but let's give it some credit, where credit is due. No other game was as successful as Anthem. I agree. I remember the day after Anthem's release, the whole city was buzzing. I was walking down the street and strangers were just suddenly high fiving each other and hugging each other after playing Anthem for the first time. Someone on the street said something that stuck with me to this day: They've captured the imagination of the entirety of this great nation, they're people we can all believe in and people with the desire and strength to change everything... Bioware could very well be the next trillion dollar company. The whole experience was surreal, did this happen in anyone's else city? Indeed, it's an objective truth that Anthem is one of the greatest games of all time - possibly the greatest.
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Post by githcheater on Mar 7, 2021 21:45:14 GMT
I don't know who these 26 optimistic people are. It won't be as technically bad as Andromeda or Anthem was, but it will be another shade of bland, narratively, as every one of Bioware's games this past decade nearly. Huh... and yet Andromeda is only beaten by ME2 and nothing can beat Inquisition. One bad game in Anthem and the horrid ME3 ending, Bioware has been doing well. DAO beat Inquisition with its better strategic combat and better side quests that actually mattered.
I am not sure how Andromeda beats ME1 and ME3 given that Andromeda wasn't good enough to have any DLC.
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