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Post by biggydx on Mar 5, 2021 23:06:56 GMT
So recent news from Bloomberg indicates that the next Dragon Age title is expected to be a single-player only title. While this decision has likely come as a welcome surprise to many fans, I'm also certain that it hasn't affected the beliefs of those who already lie on the skeptical/pessimistic mindset when it comes to BioWare. Others here have even expressed their disappointment with the loss of the next titles multiplayer component, as they felt its previous inception (in Inquisition) helped get them involved with the franchise; likely due to success from ME3 MP. I wanted to gauge everyone's opinion on this shakeup. I tried to be as encompassing as I could with the responses.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 5, 2021 23:10:20 GMT
As with all Bio games: indifferent/don't care.
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Post by necrowaif on Mar 5, 2021 23:23:41 GMT
Colour me mildly optimistic.
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Post by warden on Mar 5, 2021 23:24:03 GMT
We only have previous experiences to create some sort of expectation on what's to come, because nothing new hasn't come in years so sounds pretty difficult/mood to form any kind of opinion/expectations I think.
In my case I don't see anything to be available to have any form of distaste, hype or whatever, it's like looking into the abyss, you can't really see anything. So it's kinda "eh" I guess.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Mar 5, 2021 23:44:00 GMT
My optimism has increased by 5.72%.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 5, 2021 23:48:23 GMT
Pessimistic. The single player is already going to absolute garbage, and now there isn't even multiplayer to distract from that or play with friends.
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Post by Little Bengel on Mar 5, 2021 23:52:29 GMT
Optimistic, but still cautiously so, as I always have been.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 6, 2021 0:04:00 GMT
Are we talking overall or comparing the change before the news vs now?
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Mar 6, 2021 0:04:02 GMT
Meh, DAI's mutliplayer always felt like it was taped on from what little I played of it, and I doubt much resources from the SP experience were divulged to help with it.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 6, 2021 0:05:10 GMT
This was a tough question for me.
Overall, I'd say I'm indifferent.
On one hand I like that there is no multiplayer that might compromise the single player game's control scheme and gameplay, but on the other hand I find the focus of the franchise's plot utterly uninteresting. Ancient elves, "lords of fortune" and whatever else weird factions were mentioned in recent books just don't catch my interest at all. Nor did all that rule of cool stuff in the trailer.
It still might be good of course, but at the moment I'm not expecting much.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Mar 6, 2021 1:14:20 GMT
This announcement hasn't really changed anything for me. I don't know what the multiplayer element was like ( whether i would of liked it, hated it, or been indifferent), and I don't know what the singleplayer gameplay is like, nor whether it will change after the MPs removal. I want an rpg with lots of choices and tactical party combat, but being a singleplayer game doesn't guarantee that, there are plenty of singleplayer action games. And while i don't think they'd ever take out companions they might take our control of them away like the mass effect games did, which i didn't like.
My attitude on gameplay remains 'wait and see' just as it was before we knew it was single player only.
I'm fairly optimistic about the story. I enjoyed all 3 previous games and have been enjoying the other material (books and comics) as well. I like the idea of a new protagonist, the idea of going north and the various plot threads that have been dropped and might be followed.
DAI had less enjoyable combat than the others for me though so we'll see what direction they go with that in future. But story/the world is the most important thing to me.
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Post by shaqfu on Mar 6, 2021 2:15:47 GMT
Indifferent until we actually start seeing some gameplay and get a peak at the world design.
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Post by githcheater on Mar 6, 2021 2:50:51 GMT
I voted unsure.
On one hand, I am happy that DA4 will definitely be a single-player game that is uncompromised by multiplayer.
However, I am concerned as to whether this multiplayer elimination might be another reboot that further delays the game or reduces resources for DA4 single player.
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Post by biggydx on Mar 6, 2021 3:09:42 GMT
Are we talking overall or comparing the change before the news vs now? Your view on the potential quality of the game given the recent news (about it being single-player) vs what we knew from before (the game having live-service elements). Not sure if the title isn't being specific enough, but I'm not asking users to base their opinion on what they think the quality of the game will be (obviously, it's not out yet). It's asking your opinion of how you feel about the prospects of the game given that - NOW - it is considered to be a single-player only title; as opposed to being Live-Service title. Hopefully, that helps clarify things.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 6, 2021 3:25:26 GMT
tbh I'm not sure DA isn't m yworry so much as the next ME is. I'm optimistic tha tDA is gion a tleast in a direction I think I'll like in terms of it's story. bu tit's moer M|E's next story I'm more concerned about. As I' mno ts osuer that that game will.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 6, 2021 4:11:10 GMT
Its kind of tough to gage just how 'happy' (or sad) we should be at this news given that:
1. We are unsure how much multiplayer was going to be planned or how much it was going to rely on a MP component. We do not know if it was going to have DA MP or ME MP as a seperate co op mode or if it was going to be a full on MMO style game. 2. We do not know how much they had planned for post launch content (live service). Indeed given that the article mentioned Jedi Fallen Order by name, which has had zero post launch story content, its not unreasonable to worry for those of us who like BioWare's releasing of DLC and their other story DLC packs have greatly added to the experience. 3. We do not know if the loss of MP will also signal a loss in development budget or less of a focus. If EA still views MP as being some great cash cow, or their investors, a DA 4 without MP might recieve less attention then a DA 4 with MP...which could mean a lower quality game overall despite being SP. 4. We do not know what other effects this will have on the overall project and what other effects this might have trickling down in terms of other game play systems. Again given that Fallen Order is referenced specifically as being an influence of this decision that might mean a focus on puzzle based gameplay and trolley Dark Souls style combat. Or they might decide to 'go back to their roots' and look at BG 3 as an inspiration...ick.
Despite all of this I am optomistic. While some of DA4s mp proposals sounded like they had promise and while I could have seen myself playing DA 4 MP with my friends and mayyybbbbe my wife...at the end of the day I still prefer SP focused game play and stories that I can just enjoy by myself in my free time. And, potential loss of budget aside, that will still be one less thing they need to develop overall...which should mean more resources devoted to creating a compelling sp campaign.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 6, 2021 6:37:44 GMT
Not at all. Multiplayer being in the game or not was never something I cared about, especially as we were never given any details about what it would entail.
We didn't know anything meaningful about DA4 before, and we still don't.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 6, 2021 6:40:02 GMT
Are we talking overall or comparing the change before the news vs now? Your view on the potential quality of the game given the recent news (about it being single-player) vs what we knew from before (the game having live-service elements). Not sure if the title isn't being specific enough, but I'm not asking users to base their opinion on what they think the quality of the game will be (obviously, it's not out yet). It's asking your opinion of how you feel about the prospects of the game given that - NOW - it is considered to be a single-player only title; as opposed to being Live-Service title. Hopefully, that helps clarify things. Multi-player/live service aren't the same thing. A game can be multiplayer without being live service and vice versa. DA4 could still have a form or multiple forms of "live service".
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Post by Fredward on Mar 6, 2021 7:29:40 GMT
Most (but not all) of my optimism is offset by the tumultuous production the game seems to be having. Like yeah, if you had told me it was SP focused from the start and it's had a bunch of years of consistent production towards that goal I'd be elated but it's gone from SP to LS back to SP, that just doesn't inspire confidence. I will note that the Bloomberg article made it sound like the LS compromises were not insubstantial so I'm happy that they're gone (I grant now that LS is a scale but overall it's a scale I'm happy to be without) but without knowing specifics it's hard to know how relieved to be about the bullet dodged.
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 6, 2021 8:55:57 GMT
Still got a degree of skepticism. Been awhile since bioware produced something I really loved. Hope they can prove my skepticism wrong.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Mar 6, 2021 9:27:32 GMT
My opinion hasn't really altereed - I've loved all three games so far, and unless we learn something that changes my mind, I am expecting to also enjoy the fourth one. So far we don't know much of anything about it and most of what little we do know pleases me (i.e. we will be going to Tevinter and wrapping up the Solas plotline in some fashion.)
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Post by ClarkKent on Mar 6, 2021 11:12:59 GMT
It's definitely upped my hopes a little bit. Still though, there's a lot of interesting angles Bioware could take the story of DA4 and I'm not so convinced that Bioware are going to take any of them.
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Post by telanadas on Mar 6, 2021 16:39:22 GMT
ike yeah, if you had told me it was SP focused from the start and it's had a bunch of years of consistent production towards that goal I'd be elated but it's gone from SP to LS back to SP, that just doesn't inspire confidence. Yeah it all seems very inefficient. I am optimistic that the refocus on single player will give the devs a lot more freedom though, and allow them time to invest in things that make the dragon age series so great. I am really hoping for a musical interlude in DA4, something as impactful like Leliana's song or The dawn will come. All in all, I honestly just really want to see some actual gameplay or confirmed characters/set designs before I'm convinced this game is actually happening.
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Post by Felya87 on Mar 6, 2021 17:02:32 GMT
I'm quietly optimistic. But I was already before the announcement. The SP only just took away something that would have been either annoyng, or left me indifferent. I was still convinced DA4 wasn't going to be a MMO, so long as the MP could be completely ignored without getting punished in the SP game (hello, ME3) I was fine.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 6, 2021 17:29:25 GMT
Frostbite 3 is still a thing. Nothing really changed.
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