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Post by The Elder King on Dec 6, 2022 2:00:38 GMT
I thought it could be more in the vein of Duncan's narration at the start of Origins, then the actual dialogue between Varric and the new protagonist. "Not Actual Gameplay". I do not see a promise that this cinematic will actually be in the game. Cinematics aren’t technically part of the gameplay. They said themselves that it’s a key cinematic from the game, so I’m holding them to their words, and would react accordingly if things would be different in game. Wouldn’t be the first time it happens.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 6, 2022 2:03:42 GMT
Eh, knowing it’s from the game it feels like Varric explaining things to the new PC and he slips into this similar to him with Cassandra in DA2. If this is the opening narration that hosts its own problems since wow way to start the game in such a boring note compared to Duncan’s narration. I think it’d be just a part of it. Also, it seems weird to have this kind of scene being narrated to a character in different context then what was DA2…although we lack context. It could be a part of something more in both cases. Perhaps. Either way, this being how the new character is introduced to the Solas plot is absolute bullshit and gives me no faith in the writing for this game. |
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 6, 2022 2:12:37 GMT
I think it’d be just a part of it. Also, it seems weird to have this kind of scene being narrated to a character in different context then what was DA2…although we lack context. It could be a part of something more in both cases. Perhaps. Either way, this being how the new character is introduced to the Solas plot is absolute bullshit and gives me no faith in the writing for this game. I’d say that, if this cinematic is the way Varric introduces the plot to the new PC, with no additional events tied to it or preceding it, it’s not great. I don’t think it impact my opinion on the writing of the game, not in the way it does to you, at least. If it’s part of the introduction to the game, though, it wouldn’t impact my opinion on the introduction of the new character to Solas, as it means it’d happen differently.
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Post by Reznore on Dec 6, 2022 9:38:33 GMT
It's explaining how Solas is the dread wolf and how he captured the old elven gods, created the veil etc...It's really not a bad way to introduce that. Same way the Black city was introduced in DAO. Solas already explained that one to the old inquisitor so having him explaining himself again to random joe for no reason would be strange.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 6, 2022 12:51:33 GMT
So now that "we" decided that Varric was the new Duncan, does it means that after he recruit us, he gets killed at the end of the prologue? Also, if the gargantuan Elven god monsters is in fact one of the Evanuris, doesn't that means tha Solas succeeded in destroying the Veil by that point...  1. I fear that. Don't want Varric dead.
2. not necessarily. it could also only carries the symbol of her mistress. And wasn't sealed away.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 6, 2022 13:17:58 GMT
This 3rd teaser seems to confirm that the two upside down figures in the second teaser mural are indeed elven gods as suspected. As their headresses (right most and centre) are amoung the seven elven gods that Solas imprisoned.
And also seems to confirm that the golden city became the black city when he put up the veil, whether as a result of being cut off from thedas, or being cut off from thedas because it was tainted. Given the same circle surrounded by semi circles existed in the first teaser it seems likely that they respresent the elven gods too. And that the two semi circles that are a different colour are probably the two elven gods that show in the second teaser mural - because while the 7 semi circles are rotated left around the the circle, the two that are golden are still in the same position relative to the others as the two 3rd teaser headdresses that match the 2nd teaser upside down figures. (right most and centre)
I would put this pictures to that. I find it interesting that in pic 1 3 are bright not 2.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 6, 2022 13:35:08 GMT
Did you notice how the black tendrils that we associate with the Blight, also appear around the Dread Wolf head in the video. I wonder if that is significant?
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Post by azarhal on Dec 6, 2022 13:39:51 GMT
Did you notice how the black tendrils that we associate with the Blight, also appear around the Dread Wolf head in the video. I wonder if that is significant? Meredith v2.0 Who has hold on that idol for long, doesn't stay sane for very long.
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Post by saandrig on Dec 6, 2022 13:52:22 GMT
Did you notice how the black tendrils that we associate with the Blight, also appear around the Dread Wolf head in the video. I wonder if that is significant? Meredith v2.0 Who has hold on that idol for long, doesn't stay sane for very long. And here I was worried that a sane Solas was planning to end the world. What's an insane one going to do? Not destroy it? |
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Post by azarhal on Dec 6, 2022 13:56:02 GMT
Meredith v2.0 Who has hold on that idol for long, doesn't stay sane for very long. And here I was worried that a sane Solas was planning to end the world. What's an insane one going to do? Not destroy it? I'm starting to think that Solas is being manipulated into freeing the Blight trapped inside the Black City. He is going to free it thinking he's destroying the Veil to free the Fade. Just like the Magister Sideral were told to seek power there, but they unleashed a Blight instead and something might have gotten free, but not everything.
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 6, 2022 14:03:07 GMT
Duncans naration is 3 min. The art part is 1 minute and look a lote like this one. I think this will be simular. Did you notice how the black tendrils that we associate with the Blight, also appear around the Dread Wolf head in the video. I wonder if that is significant? I am not sure what it is. But i also have no clue what the dreadwolf really is. It looks like Solas is good, but the dreadwolf destroy that. So yes the dreadwolf could have something to do with the blight. And i would like to see how mythal and the dreadwolf see each other. Are they the same? I have many question.
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Post by Reznore on Dec 6, 2022 16:20:09 GMT
I am not sure what it is. But i also have no clue what the dreadwolf really is. It looks like Solas is good, but the dreadwolf destroy that. So yes the dreadwolf could have something to do with the blight. And i would like to see how mythal and the dreadwolf see each other. Are they the same? I have many question. The dread wold is Solas. It's his elven god name. Fen'Harel. Solas is not good, no ancient elven gods were good. They had high magic and were really good at that, but they were brutal and harsh. Closer to Tevinter than Southern Thedas. Solas dislike slavery and is anti establishment, sounds nice on paper, but he thinks powerful mages shouldn't be held back and if they abuse their power somehow someone will appear and kill them and problem solved. Basically he wants a magical far west that only works great in his egghead. Flemythal and Solas were "old friend" the kind that went through some painful stuff, but they are ancient elven gods so Solas backstabbed his cherished Mythal for the greater good. And Mythal prepared a secret plan B because she saw it coming from a mile away.
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Post by catcher on Dec 6, 2022 17:05:30 GMT
I would put this pictures to that. I find it interesting that in pic 1 3 are bright not 2. Thanks for the extra pics, Fairdragon. I recognize three of the four murals but I can't place that third one that appears to depict fen'Harel with the Dread Wolf running behind. If you (or anyone else, I'm not picky  ) would please ID where it can be found. I've a habit of looking at these things in-game with an array of inquisition saves I have. Thanks in advance. 
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 6, 2022 17:11:56 GMT
I would put this pictures to that. I find it interesting that in pic 1 3 are bright not 2. Thanks for the extra pics, Fairdragon. I recognize three of the four murals but I can't place that third one that appears to depict fen'Harel with the Dread Wolf running behind. If you (or anyone else, I'm not picky ) would please ID where it can be found. I've a habit of looking at these things in-game with an array of inquisition saves I have. Thanks in advance. I believe that one is found in the Viddasala’s castle headquarters in Trespasser. The room where you have to activate the animal statues in order to get that Fen’Harel clue. |
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Post by DragonRacer on Dec 6, 2022 17:30:19 GMT
Who is the Dreadwolf? What if the title was a bit different? Who is the Readwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who just sits around all day and reads books. Who is the Breadwolf - A game about a snooty bald elf who just always wanted to be a baker. Who is the Redwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who stalks some girl who goes to visit her Dalish Grandma in the forest. Who is the Fedwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who is lazy and just sits around eating pizza all day. Who is the Shredwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who fronts a death metal band.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Dec 6, 2022 21:57:23 GMT
Thanks for the extra pics, Fairdragon. I recognize three of the four murals but I can't place that third one that appears to depict fen'Harel with the Dread Wolf running behind. If you (or anyone else, I'm not picky ) would please ID where it can be found. I've a habit of looking at these things in-game with an array of inquisition saves I have. Thanks in advance. I believe that one is found in the Viddasala’s castle headquarters in Trespasser. The room where you have to activate the animal statues in order to get that Fen’Harel clue. Yes. The tower in the Darvaarad. Top floor, I believe.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 6, 2022 22:29:19 GMT
Who is the Dreadwolf? What if the title was a bit different? Who is the Readwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who just sits around all day and reads books. Who is the Breadwolf - A game about a snooty bald elf who just always wanted to be a baker. Who is the Redwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who stalks some girl who goes to visit her Dalish Grandma in the forest. Who is the Fedwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who is lazy and just sits around eating pizza all day. Who is the Shredwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who fronts a death metal band. I KNOW I've seen that fanfic.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Dec 6, 2022 23:28:35 GMT
the one thing I have never understood about the mural with the 3 golden discs is the fact - okay, the Evanuris somehow connects with Old Gods and the Blights. When we look at the golden discs now, we see two left, so many people (including myself) think - two old gods yet awakened, so two gold discs still lit up, so two blights left.
But that painting was made by Solas BEFORE the veil was raised. so there were already 4 golden discs depleted before the blights even started.
So what does it all even mean!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2022 23:38:33 GMT
Who is the Dreadwolf? What if the title was a bit different? Who is the Readwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who just sits around all day and reads books. Who is the Breadwolf - A game about a snooty bald elf who just always wanted to be a baker. Who is the Redwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who stalks some girl who goes to visit her Dalish Grandma in the forest. Who is the Fedwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who is lazy and just sits around eating pizza all day. Who is the Shredwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who fronts a death metal band. Who is the Steppenwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who wants to get your motor running and take you on a magic carpet ride.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 6, 2022 23:42:11 GMT
Hey, who thinks this "in-game cinematic" will actually be the short trailer that plays prior to the start of the game? You know, like the Warden's Calling trailer from DAO or the Destiny trailer from DA2 where Hawke battles the Arishok? Who is the Shredwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who fronts a death metal band. Who is the Steppenwolf? - A game about a snooty bald elf who wants to get your motor running and take you on a magic carpet ride. Wait, I thought Steppenwolf was the bad guy from the Justice League movie ...?  |
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Post by catcher on Dec 7, 2022 2:55:10 GMT
First, big thanks to Hanako and OhDaniGirl for the assist. I'm afraid I didn't get any better insights looking at it in-game yet, but I know where to go to do so the one thing I have never understood about the mural with the 3 golden discs is the fact - okay, the Evanuris somehow connects with Old Gods and the Blights. When we look at the golden discs now, we see two left, so many people (including myself) think - two old gods yet awakened, so two gold discs still lit up, so two blights left. But that painting was made by Solas BEFORE the veil was raised. so there were already 4 golden discs depleted before the blights even started. So what does it all even mean! Do you mean the first mural fairdragon copied? The one found in the Shattered Library? if so, how do we know it was done before the Veil? Fen'Harel had obviously been running around in this part of the Crossroads for some time when the Qunari came across him. He might have painted that mural then. It seems to depict in slightly different form the same type of scene done in the new mural from the latest tease minus the specific symbols. It also would make symmetrical sense that alternating globes might be different colors so the fact that two are (maybe) to be released gods that match could be coincidence. Or maybe not.  |
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Post by n7double07 on Dec 7, 2022 4:59:01 GMT
Saw this trailer yesterday. Got off on a tangent(s) in another thread with a few others and posted my thoughts there: bsn.boards.net/thread/19904/territories-evanurisSeems that lineup of headdresses may support an Elgar'nan-Lusacan connection, plus a few other things. Another thing I noticed looking at screencaps in here is branches (possibly) being used as symbolism. In the newest cover art for the next DA soundtrack, the wings of the dragon ('The Sun'/The 8th Old God?) near the royal palace(?) of the Golden City are covered in shrubbery and branches.  The Taint looks like it's emitting from The Black City as twisted branches. |
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Post by dayze on Dec 7, 2022 5:34:57 GMT
Saw this trailer yesterday. Got off on a tangent(s) in another thread with a few others and posted my thoughts there: bsn.boards.net/thread/19904/territories-evanurisSeems that lineup of headdresses may support an Elgar'nan-Lusacan connection, plus a few other things. Another thing I noticed looking at screencaps in here is branches (possibly) being used as symbolism. In the newest cover art for the next DA soundtrack, the wings of the dragon ('The Sun'/The 8th Old God?) near the royal palace(?) of the Golden City are covered in shrubbery and branches. The Taint looks like it's emitting from The Black City as twisted branches. Could also be mountains.
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Post by dayze on Dec 7, 2022 5:41:25 GMT
Say, the 7 symbols that show up as Varric talks about the creation of the Veil... 2 of them look quite similar to the heads of the two figures that appeared in the 2020 mural, don't they? Some of the other ones should have appeared in Trespasser as images but were cut at some point. However, it was possible to recover the data. People also made the connection with other stylised statues of the gods that we had previously encountered in the games. However, with only 3 images shown with Fen'Harel, could these have been his co-conspirators, the Forgotten Ones? If there were actually 4 more, then it could represent those who combined their magic to create the Veil.  Looking at that in the third row we seen to have upside down hanging horned beings with tears/lyrium(?) dropping from them......my first thought would be Qunari but I feel like they are a more recent creation.....maybe ancient Reavers who are more draconic from extended use of blood hence the horns?
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Post by fairdragon on Dec 7, 2022 10:01:45 GMT
I am not sure what it is. But i also have no clue what the dreadwolf really is. It looks like Solas is good, but the dreadwolf destroy that. So yes the dreadwolf could have something to do with the blight. And i would like to see how mythal and the dreadwolf see each other. Are they the same? I have many question. The dread wold is Solas. It's his elven god name. Fen'Harel. Solas is not good, no ancient elven gods were good. They had high magic and were really good at that, but they were brutal and harsh. Closer to Tevinter than Southern Thedas. Solas dislike slavery and is anti establishment, sounds nice on paper, but he thinks powerful mages shouldn't be held back and if they abuse their power somehow someone will appear and kill them and problem solved. Basically he wants a magical far west that only works great in his egghead. Flemythal and Solas were "old friend" the kind that went through some painful stuff, but they are ancient elven gods so Solas backstabbed his cherished Mythal for the greater good. And Mythal prepared a secret plan B because she saw it coming from a mile away. And here i disagree. Solas is the body and Fen'Harel is the wolf. They show them alway separated. I think it is the same like Flemeth/mythal and Anders/Justice. One is the Body the other is a kind of spirit. you are right Solas and mythal are old friends, but what is with Fen'Harel.
"Solas was first Fen'Harel came later."
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