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Post by Hrungr on Dec 4, 2022 17:03:37 GMT
This work in progress cinematic from Dragon Age: Dreadwolf tells the story of Solas. Narrated by the dwarf Varric Tethras.
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Post by Little Bengel on Dec 4, 2022 17:08:07 GMT
Say, the 7 symbols that show up as Varric talks about the creation of the Veil...
2 of them look quite similar to the heads of the two figures that appeared in the 2020 mural, don't they?
The center one and the rightmost one.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 4, 2022 17:09:45 GMT
Narrated by the dwarf Varric Tethras. Unfortunately more of Varric instead of Dorian. And his last line: We´re the only ones who can stop him" well it seems unlikely that Varric isn´t a minor character. I really hope that he isn´t a companion.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Dec 4, 2022 17:10:04 GMT
Say, the 7 symbols that show up as Varric talks about the creation of the Veil... 2 of them look quite similar to the heads of the two figures that appeared in the 2020 mural, don't they? The center one and the rightmost one. Good catch, they definitely look like the ones from the mural.
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Post by mattjamho on Dec 4, 2022 18:17:03 GMT
Love the music and sound design in this, combined with the illustrated graphics it gives it a feeling of a mix of DA:2 & DA:I.
Since this is from an in-game graphic, I wonder if DA:D will have Acts? Or Narrated story checkpoints?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 4, 2022 18:26:10 GMT
And his last line: We´re the only ones who can stop him" well it seems unlikely that Varric isn´t a minor character. I really hope that he isn´t a companion. Big sigh, but it does look that way. There is something odd though in what he says just before that: "He wanted ....." Surely, if this is something that is a future threat, he should have said "He wants....."? I realise this is nit-picking over grammar but it could be relevant. Also, Fen'Harel was not the god of lies but of trickery. Again, I'm being picky but there is a difference. Even the warning of the Evanuris is one of trickery rather than outright lies.
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Post by necrowaif on Dec 4, 2022 18:31:39 GMT
Beautifully-drawn, I must say.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 4, 2022 18:33:13 GMT
Also, notice that the imagery makes an implicit connection between the imprisonment of the elven gods and the Black City. Notice how it changed to black on the creation of the Veil and the darkness is cut off from the world and contained within the Veil.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Dec 4, 2022 18:35:25 GMT
And his last line: We´re the only ones who can stop him" well it seems unlikely that Varric isn´t a minor character. I really hope that he isn´t a companion. Big sigh, but it does look that way. There is something odd though in what he says just before that: "He wanted ....." Surely, if this is something that is a future threat, he should have said "He wants....."? I realise this is nit-picking over grammar but it could be relevant. Also, Fen'Harel was not the god of lies but of trickery. Again, I'm being picky but there is a difference. Even the warning of the Evanuris is one of trickery rather than outright lies. Yes, I also noticed the weird grammar but didn't know what to make of it.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 4, 2022 18:40:36 GMT
Big sigh, but it does look that way. One thing bothers me for an outsider it looks that Varric is the new hero and not someone else. To much Varric for my taste. But i really have to ask this honest question is Dorian too gay and therefore too disliked to be used in the marketing which seems to be odd because in my opinion the focus is still on his homeland Tevinter?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 4, 2022 18:44:16 GMT
Say, the 7 symbols that show up as Varric talks about the creation of the Veil... 2 of them look quite similar to the heads of the two figures that appeared in the 2020 mural, don't they? Some of the other ones should have appeared in Trespasser as images but were cut at some point. However, it was possible to recover the data. People also made the connection with other stylised statues of the gods that we had previously encountered in the games. However, with only 3 images shown with Fen'Harel, could these have been his co-conspirators, the Forgotten Ones? If there were actually 4 more, then it could represent those who combined their magic to create the Veil.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 4, 2022 18:49:50 GMT
One example. Could be the 3rd on the right.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 4, 2022 19:09:01 GMT
One thing bothers me for an outsider it looks that Varric is the new hero and not someone else. The previous trailer gave a similar impression. I've said before how he was becoming the "hero" of the story, all but replacing the actual heroes we have played. We know different but a newcomer to the game might well think Varric was the "Shepard" of Dragon Age. But i really have to ask this honest question is Dorian too gay and therefore too disliked to be used in the marketing It isn't obvious that Dorian is gay to a newcomer and it is hardly controversial to those familiar with DAI. More likely is that his VA was unavailable even if they wanted to use Dorian for promotion, so they went with Varric instead. Unless, of course, Dorian does not play such a role in the game as Varric.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 4, 2022 19:13:01 GMT
I wonder what the golden disc above the Golden City is meant to represent? I noticed that it didn't change colour when the city did but remained golden as everything else turned to black.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 4, 2022 19:22:03 GMT
More likely is that his VA was unavailable even if they wanted to use Dorian for promotion, so they went with Varric instead. Well i doubt this. If Bioware or EA wanted Ramon Tikaram to voice a teaser / trailer for promotion they would very likely get him. The fans also get him for this year Dragon Age Day. This would be pretty bad and stupid if Dorian (who should have the most screentime of all returning NPCs who aren´t companions) had less to do than Varric.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 4, 2022 19:41:52 GMT
That music was interesting.
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Post by ellehaym on Dec 4, 2022 20:14:22 GMT
One of the symbols on the far left reminds me of a stylized staff of the pure It does seem like we've seen those symbols before either in game or hidden in files except for 2: the far left one I mentioned and the one that looks like a line. I wonder if they really do represent the Evanuris after all? Interesting how there seems to be a structure in the large golden disk and it turns black and spreads to the other symbols. As for the smaller yellow disk, I wonder if that could either represent the Sun, although the larger disk with a structure in it look much more Sun-like to me. Or it could be the moon? There's a lot of Sun and Lunar imagery in these latest DA arts and makes me wonder if an eclipse if gonna happen in game?
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Post by Little Bengel on Dec 4, 2022 20:20:59 GMT
Say, the 7 symbols that show up as Varric talks about the creation of the Veil... 2 of them look quite similar to the heads of the two figures that appeared in the 2020 mural, don't they? Some of the other ones should have appeared in Trespasser as images but were cut at some point. However, it was possible to recover the data. People also made the connection with other stylised statues of the gods that we had previously encountered in the games. However, with only 3 images shown with Fen'Harel, could these have been his co-conspirators, the Forgotten Ones? If there were actually 4 more, then it could represent those who combined their magic to create the Veil. See, my major problem with the Forgotten Ones thing is that the Evanuris as we know them are seven in number.
And accordingly, there are seven symbols shown surrounding the big circle with the Golden City, right as Varric talks about Solas locking them up with the Veil.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 4, 2022 20:40:13 GMT
Brian Bloom's voice sound a bit different than the last time he voiced Varric and yeah, too much Varric.
The 7 symbols are super interesting, from left to right: - Lyrium infused staff head from The Descent (Isana's Song), but core DAI also had a similar head with a silhouette in the middle for a couple of unique staff. - Seen in DAI related art before and I feel I've seen that elsewhere too (environmental art I think, I'll try to pay attention to it during my current DAI playthrought). - so none-descript, I don't think we have seen that one before - looks similar to the Circle of Magic symbol, but not quite. I think it was in some DAD related arts too. - On the head of some statues found in elven ruins in DAO (pick posted above). - The half-sun, seen a lots on Chantry related items in all 3 games. - Seen in previous DAD concept art as an headdress on someone
From the looks of things these are the Evanuris's headdress symbol. Just like Visus, that they appear on other things is probably just "appropriation".
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Post by ellanathehamster on Dec 4, 2022 20:40:28 GMT
So good to see a hint of DA. I loved it, even if nothing new was said. But Bioware knows their fans, so I bet they slipped interesting stuff into this teaser. In the last art he seems to be holding something in his arm- the idol? Also, the wording! I does seem peculiar to me how Varric says: "But now he want ed to tear down the Vail and destroy the world. And we are the only ones who can stop him". It does seem like something Varric would say to new PC to recruit them. And it also sounds like propaganda) I'm dying to learn more about Solas's motives to both imprison the elven gods and now tear down the veil.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Dec 4, 2022 20:51:36 GMT
Also, IMO, what teaser seems to confirm: -Black City = Arlathan (or the part were elven gods resided) -It was tainted -The Veil sealed the blight (watch closely what happens to the city from 30 sec mark)
And the symbolism! it looks like the moon above the golden city. At the beginning, there is light and the moon is bright. As it gets darker, the moon disappear. An allusion to Mythal's murder? the last picture though! Does Solas still want to destroy the veil? Is it ongoing process? Do we start a game when he is mid-way? It does seem likely, since the time skip will be around 10 years. He said to Inquisitor "This should give you a few years of relative peace"- 10 is not few years Oh, so many questioooons!!!
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 4, 2022 20:55:40 GMT
My posts on this from the twitter thread: Just watched the vid a few times. I feel like I need to go on a mural and statue hunt in-game now to track down the evanuris symbols b/c a lot of them look very familiar, but I feel like not in the context of the evanuris? Also, which one is the second in from the left? Cus I can't help but notice that one disappears noticeably slower than the rest and I wonder if that's a hint about something. Also, also, confirmation the golden city was a thing before Solas sealed them away? One more hint its actually Arlathan or w/e their capitol is? Really hope not, since I don't want everything to be "because ancient elves", but it seems more and more certain now. Actually, I take back the idea that this is support that its Arlathan. It could still have been another citadel or something else entirely, this vid is actually neutral on that. But it does seem that The City was existing and golden before he sealed the Evanuris there. And when he did, it turned black. ... Which still makes you wonder why it was perceived as golden by the magisters and everybody else, but maybe this supports the theory that the goldenness was an illusion by the old gods/whoever was whispering to the magisters? How'd they influence the vision of everyone outside the city if they're sealed in it? I have no idea. Adherents on the outside perhaps? Sealing away the Evanuris doesn't mean he sealed away their priests and other loyalists. And if they managed to stay in the fade indefinitely via uthenera, they could have been the "old gods" the magisters met in dreams. Or impersonating them. I noticed something interesting about the mountains in the key art vid: Those swirl marks don't seem to be depicting snow, but the mountains themselves. And look a lot like the swirls on the orb in mural depictions. So, more evidence that the orbs are tied to the mountains/earth/titans, then?
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Dec 4, 2022 21:10:25 GMT
Also, I noticed that, when Solas is exploding the veil in the end, the lines moving around are the same geometric lines we saw in the pre-veil image. Even the circles next to the central bright circle are there, though its much easier to see when things are moving. The only thing missing is the city. I know the three circles seem to represent the world or something in some Trespasser murals. What are the other lines, though? Wards? Star charts???
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Post by ellehaym on Dec 4, 2022 21:22:11 GMT
My posts on this from the twitter thread: Just watched the vid a few times. I feel like I need to go on a mural and statue hunt in-game now to track down the evanuris symbols b/c a lot of them look very familiar, but I feel like not in the context of the evanuris? Also, which one is the second in from the left? Cus I can't help but notice that one disappears noticeably slower than the rest and I wonder if that's a hint about something. Also, also, confirmation the golden city was a thing before Solas sealed them away? One more hint its actually Arlathan or w/e their capitol is? Actually, I take back the idea that this is support that its Arlathan. It could still have been another citadel or something else entirely, this vid is actually neutral on that. But it does seem that The City was existing and golden before he sealed the Evanuris there. And when he did, it turned black. ... Which still makes you wonder why it was perceived as golden by the magisters and everybody else, but maybe this supports the theory that the goldenness was an illusion by the old gods/whoever was whispering to the magisters? How'd they influence the vision of everyone outside the city if they're sealed in it? I have no idea. Adherents on the outside perhaps? Sealing away the Evanuris doesn't mean he sealed away their priests and other loyalists. And if they managed to stay in the fade indefinitely via uthenera, they could have been the "old gods" the magisters met in dreams. Or impersonating them. I noticed something interesting about the mountains in the key art vid: Those swirl marks don't seem to be depicting snow, but the mountains themselves. And look a lot like the swirls on the orb in mural depictions. So, more evidence that the orbs are tied to the mountains/earth/titans, then? In Tevinter Nighter there one of the characters saw a mural depicting 13 mountains. I wonder if these are those mountains?
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Post by IlidanDA on Dec 4, 2022 21:59:48 GMT
My Theory. Elves created Blight. We have 9 Gods symbol. When Solas prisoned Elven Gods. Arlathan change gold to black. Solas probably used Lyrium Idol (blue or green version) when the stars lined up. Check mural. Gods start spoke to Tevinter Magisters and promised power etc. When Magisters destroyed Veil they saw Black City. Elven Gods used mages and transferred the soul or part of it to dragons. Tevinter they respect dragons. And we have 5 Blights. 5 Dragons are killed by Grey Wardens. Without Mythal and Fenharel. We have 2 Gods. And We have 2 Gods on new mural.
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