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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 19, 2017 4:04:10 GMT
Again, MEA2 or MEA3 assuming we even get those will probably have Quarians, Geth, Drell, Bartarians, Vorcha, and Reapers etc because Bioware is prone to bending backwards for fan service (was Varric really needed in DAI? No, but Fanservice dictated that he appear). But in the time being with MEA, I can take solace in the idea that Andromeda has a foriegn and unfamiliar setting and vibe as it isnt flooded with MW races but has its own races, cultures, governments, and conflicts. I can take ease knowing that my Ryders will be in the middle of that. This is of course until MEA2 comes around and the plot becomes MW race focused and Andromeda no longer feels foriegn. The ending of DA2 clearly set things up for Varric to appear. I doubt fan service had anything to do with it. That's just conjecture on your part because you apparently dislike the character. I'm indifferent to him but don't see a problem with his appearance. Just the same, if the AI is traveling to Andromeda then obviously Milky Way races have to come along. Not a stretch. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 19, 2017 4:41:45 GMT
No, no, I get that. Wanting your favorites from the trilogy to make it in is definitely to be expected. Was just curious as to if that was the reason or something else. Thank you for the clarification.  As for an in game reason, I just feel like it doesn't make all that much sense for the quarians to be there in big numbers being that they are cast outs from the other races and off doing their own thing in the flotilla. I honestly kind of expected there to be quarian stowaways and the like that make it in to Andromeda Well, we know that if the crew of a ship of the Flotilla don't like how things are going, they are free to leave at any time. Since between ME2 and ME3 the Quarians are planning for war, there may be some ships that don't want to participate(the entire Civilian Fleet didn't want to) and actually had the courage to stand up for their misgivings and leave the fleet. No longer part of the Flotilla and knowing the Reapers are imminent, they could go to the Andromeda Initiative as a late addition, offering their expertise with ships in exchange for a ride. That allows a few hundred or thousand able to be in Andromeda. This is acceptable to me as reasoning for them coming along. But I need to know if they need their own special type of cryo stasis tubes to be able to go. If so, the only problem I would have is that they would have to learn of and join the AI soon enough to have those prepared before departure. And which Ark would they have to fit with these to allow them to travel? Or would they put them on their own ships? |
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 19, 2017 9:10:01 GMT
@ 3:00 in the trailer there's a Reegar carbine in the pause wheel. (& lol at carrying a Reegar Carbine, & a N7 Piranha) @ 4:08 there's a Female Turian icon below the right side of the health bar. I'm calling it, we'll get a Male Quarian squadie, since there's a Fem Turian squadmate, & a Reegar Carbine. i hope they are not |
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 19, 2017 9:11:55 GMT
If there are Quarians, there better be Geth too. The established timeline puts the Arks as leaving before the events of ME3. So no Geth, unless Bioware is willing to contravene their established lore again. F the lore if they are so hell bent on being piss poor reskinning of ME 1 then why not have the geth in it hell the 10 year lover letter bioware has been doing with ME 1 needs to die already |
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 19, 2017 10:50:41 GMT
Well, we know that if the crew of a ship of the Flotilla don't like how things are going, they are free to leave at any time. Since between ME2 and ME3 the Quarians are planning for war, there may be some ships that don't want to participate(the entire Civilian Fleet didn't want to) and actually had the courage to stand up for their misgivings and leave the fleet. No longer part of the Flotilla and knowing the Reapers are imminent, they could go to the Andromeda Initiative as a late addition, offering their expertise with ships in exchange for a ride. That allows a few hundred or thousand able to be in Andromeda. This is acceptable to me as reasoning for them coming along. But I need to know if they need their own special type of cryo stasis tubes to be able to go. If so, the only problem I would have is that they would have to learn of and join the AI soon enough to have those prepared before departure. And which Ark would they have to fit with these to allow them to travel? Or would they put them on their own ships? I imagine most of the Quarians, if they do go to Andromeda, would have arrived on the nexus. It could possibly have been expanded slightly to accommodate them, if a larger number did decide to go, but I'd imagine it would have had the room regardless. The other possibility is that they went on the Turian Ark. As they are the only other dextro species it would make sense for them to join the Turians as they could share food supplies, and the devs have said that the Arks all contain a smaller number of other species. |
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Post by majesticjazz on Jan 19, 2017 11:26:52 GMT
They will NOT be in MEA. Let it go...
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 19, 2017 12:02:22 GMT
They will NOT be in MEA. Let it go... If you're so opposed to speculation then what are you even doing here? That's the entire point of this thread.  |
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Post by majesticjazz on Jan 19, 2017 12:09:42 GMT
They will NOT be in MEA. Let it go... If you're so opposed speculation then what are you even doing here? That's the entire point of this thread. Its useless speculation considering that it was already confirmed that they will not appear in vanilla MEA (DLCs maybe) but may appear in MEA2 or MEA3. This thread is less of speculation and more of wishful thinking. |
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 19, 2017 12:15:33 GMT
If you're so opposed speculation then what are you even doing here? That's the entire point of this thread. Its useless speculation considering that it was already confirmed that they will not appear in vanilla MEA (DLCs maybe) but may appear in MEA2 or MEA3. This thread is less of speculation and more of wishful thinking. If you have a reference for that, share it. Otherwise stop having a go at people because they want to discuss something you don't like. It's rude and petty. |
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Post by fialka on Jan 19, 2017 12:17:43 GMT
If you're so opposed speculation then what are you even doing here? That's the entire point of this thread. Its useless speculation considering that it was already confirmed that they will not appear in vanilla MEA (DLCs maybe) but may appear in MEA2 or MEA3. This thread is less of speculation and more of wishful thinking. Actually it has not been confirmed. When specifically asked about the quarians the devs have refused to answer the question. Saying they'll talk more about races later and such. You know what has been confirmed? That there won't be guns on the Tempest. Yet people have discussed that fact for a couple dozen pages now. You be sure to tell them to 'let it go' too. Or you could just accept that these sorts of discussions happen on a gaming forum leading to launch, particularly in the absence of new info. If it annoys you this much perhaps you're in the wrong place? |
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Post by majesticjazz on Jan 19, 2017 12:25:04 GMT
Its useless speculation considering that it was already confirmed that they will not appear in vanilla MEA (DLCs maybe) but may appear in MEA2 or MEA3. This thread is less of speculation and more of wishful thinking. Actually it has not been confirmed. When specifically asked about the quarians the devs have refused to answer the question. Saying they'll talk more about races later and such. You know what has been confirmed? That there won't be guns on the Tempest. Yet people have discussed that fact for a couple dozen pages now. You be sure to tell them to 'let it go' too. Or you could just accept that these sorts of discussions happen on a gaming forum leading to launch, particularly in the absence of new info. If it annoys you this much perhaps you're in the wrong place? Bioware has confirmed the races that will be in vanilla MEA. They did go on to say that for obvious reasons, not all MW races will appear in MEA but leaves the door open for MEA2 and MEA3. Wishful thinking the space pandhandlers will be in vanilla MEA. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 19, 2017 13:59:55 GMT
This is acceptable to me as reasoning for them coming along. But I need to know if they need their own special type of cryo stasis tubes to be able to go. If so, the only problem I would have is that they would have to learn of and join the AI soon enough to have those prepared before departure. And which Ark would they have to fit with these to allow them to travel? Or would they put them on their own ships? I imagine most of the Quarians, if they do go Andromeda, would have arrived on the nexus. It could possibly have been expanded slightly to accommodate them, if a larger number did decide to go, but I'd imagine it would have had the room regardless. The other possibility is that they went on the Turian Ark. As they are the only other dextro species it would make sense for them to join the Turians as they could share food supplies, and the devs have said that the Arks all contain a smaller number of other species. Hmm. Would they even be able to use the cryo stasis that the other species use since they can't really ever be out of their suits? Sorry if I keep harping on that, just curious about how that would work. lol Going on the Turian Ark as the smaller contingent of other species would make sense though. I wanna say they would spread the quarians over all the arks though due to their handiness with tech. But again, brings me back to the possibility of having to have special accommodations for them that I'm not sure all the arks would be willing to or able to provide. |
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 19, 2017 14:25:43 GMT
I imagine most of the Quarians, if they do go Andromeda, would have arrived on the nexus. It could possibly have been expanded slightly to accommodate them, if a larger number did decide to go, but I'd imagine it would have had the room regardless. The other possibility is that they went on the Turian Ark. As they are the only other dextro species it would make sense for them to join the Turians as they could share food supplies, and the devs have said that the Arks all contain a smaller number of other species. Hmm. Would they even be able to use the cryo stasis that the other species use since they can't really ever be out of their suits? Sorry if I keep harping on that, just curious about how that would work. lol Going on the Turian Ark as the smaller contingent of other species would make sense though. I wanna say they would spread the quarians over all the arks though due to their handiness with tech. But again, brings me back to the possibility of having to have special accommodations for them that I'm not sure all the arks would be willing to or able to provide. I don't see why they couldn't use the same cryo-stasis technique as the other species. Even if we assume they can't simply be frozen while inside their suits, which would be the most obvious solution, we know Quarians can survive outside for brief periods. Tali takes her suit off on multiple occasions if romanced and takes her mask off on Rannoch. As long as the pods were sterilised before-hand they should be able to manage with only a minor infection at worst. |
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 19, 2017 14:28:05 GMT
@ 3:00 in the trailer there's a Reegar carbine in the pause wheel. (& lol at carrying a Reegar Carbine, & a N7 Piranha) @ 4:08 there's a Female Turian icon below the right side of the health bar. I'm calling it, we'll get a Male Quarian squadie, since there's a Fem Turian squadmate, & a Reegar Carbine. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
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Post by Felya87 on Jan 19, 2017 14:37:43 GMT
I imagine most of the Quarians, if they do go Andromeda, would have arrived on the nexus. It could possibly have been expanded slightly to accommodate them, if a larger number did decide to go, but I'd imagine it would have had the room regardless. The other possibility is that they went on the Turian Ark. As they are the only other dextro species it would make sense for them to join the Turians as they could share food supplies, and the devs have said that the Arks all contain a smaller number of other species. Hmm. Would they even be able to use the cryo stasis that the other species use since they can't really ever be out of their suits? Sorry if I keep harping on that, just curious about how that would work. lol Going on the Turian Ark as the smaller contingent of other species would make sense though. I wanna say they would spread the quarians over all the arks though due to their handiness with tech. But again, brings me back to the possibility of having to have special accommodations for them that I'm not sure all the arks would be willing to or able to provide. Quarian can stay outside their suits. They just need a lot of antibiotics at hand if they stay out of it. Quarian who are still too young to have their own suits or have to stay out of it (like during the delivery of a child) stay in aseptic rooms. Tali explaing it quite well while talking to her "aunt" in ME2. Basically, they just need their cryo stasis (tanks? tubes?) in one of those aseptic rooms, nothing really fancy: every decent hospital have one, even in our days. And a stock of antibiotics ready for emergencyes. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 19, 2017 15:02:27 GMT
Hmm. Would they even be able to use the cryo stasis that the other species use since they can't really ever be out of their suits? Sorry if I keep harping on that, just curious about how that would work. lol Going on the Turian Ark as the smaller contingent of other species would make sense though. I wanna say they would spread the quarians over all the arks though due to their handiness with tech. But again, brings me back to the possibility of having to have special accommodations for them that I'm not sure all the arks would be willing to or able to provide. Quarian can stay outside their suits. They just need a lot of antibiotics at hand if they stay out of it. Quarian who are still too young to have their own suits or have to stay out of it (like during the delivery of a child) stay in asptic rooms. Tali explaing it quite well while talking to her "aunt" in ME2. Basically, yhey just need thir cryo stasis (tanks? tubes?) in one of those aseptic rooms, nothing really fancy: every decent hospital have one, even in our days. And a stock of antibiotics ready for emergencyes. Then I suppose there's no reason for them to not be able to go other than the AI saying no. lol Although I feel like the game was always telling me quarians out of suit = bad. |
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Post by fialka on Jan 19, 2017 15:06:28 GMT
Hmm. Would they even be able to use the cryo stasis that the other species use since they can't really ever be out of their suits? Sorry if I keep harping on that, just curious about how that would work. lol Going on the Turian Ark as the smaller contingent of other species would make sense though. I wanna say they would spread the quarians over all the arks though due to their handiness with tech. But again, brings me back to the possibility of having to have special accommodations for them that I'm not sure all the arks would be willing to or able to provide. I don't see why they couldn't use the same cryo-stasis technique as the other species. Even if we assume they can't simply be frozen while inside their suits, which would be the most obvious solution, we know Quarians can survive outside for brief periods. Tali takes her suit off on multiple occasions if romanced and takes her mask off on Rannoch. As long as the pods were sterilised before-hand they should be able to manage with only a minor infection at worst. This, exactly. It seems that regardless of species, a statis pod would have to be completely sterile - both to prevent complication for the freeze-ee and to prevent dangerous pathogens and invasive species from hopping a ride to Andromeda or infecting the enclosed spaces of the Arks upon thawing. So I doubt quarians would need any extra accommodation in that regard. Also, assuming they could be frozen in their suits, I'm sure they could engineer said suit to aid with that. Or perhaps adapt their cybernetics to the process. Or both. It might be that if they wanted to come aboard, they'd be the ones responsible for making that feasible. And they would have the skills to do just that. Perhaps the tech they've developed to necessitate their own survival could even be adapted for other species' use to make the journey safer. Also, slightly off topic, but it occurred to me that part of the reason all the council species are participating in this, versus it just being human-only, might be (other than from a game series consistency perspective) because it's the only way the Council would allow such a project. It looks like some of the things being built might push the boundaries of what is legal in Council space. They'd be more likely to give the go ahead anyway if their own species are involved. Though that still doesn't explain the krogan. Unless the council was like, yes, please, take them with you. Take lots of them with you!  (Also, see if you can bring along some of those suit rats who refuse go home too...  ) |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 19, 2017 15:25:31 GMT
They probably brought some Krogan along because, well, they are rather hard to kill and make great security/bodyguards for the other, more squishy, species of the milky way.
But in that regard, you'd think they would want some Quarians as well for their technical expertise as has been mentioned.
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Not to mention their character models lend themselves perfectly to creating multiple background characters that do not require much resources to customize facial features..... it's a low coat solution to creating crowds
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Post by Felya87 on Jan 20, 2017 22:37:26 GMT
Quarian can stay outside their suits. They just need a lot of antibiotics at hand if they stay out of it. Quarian who are still too young to have their own suits or have to stay out of it (like during the delivery of a child) stay in asptic rooms. Tali explaing it quite well while talking to her "aunt" in ME2. Basically, yhey just need thir cryo stasis (tanks? tubes?) in one of those aseptic rooms, nothing really fancy: every decent hospital have one, even in our days. And a stock of antibiotics ready for emergencyes. Then I suppose there's no reason for them to not be able to go other than the AI saying no. lol Although I feel like the game was always telling me quarians out of suit = bad. Well, who would want to take antibiotics or have fever at every breath? Still, Quarians are a more "hight mantenance" race, with the need of suits and dextro food, but can basically simply eat the same food as Turians and their suits are not that different from the volus ones. |
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Post by sgtreed24 on Jan 20, 2017 23:08:46 GMT
Then I suppose there's no reason for them to not be able to go other than the AI saying no. lol Although I feel like the game was always telling me quarians out of suit = bad. Well, who would want to take antibiotics or have fever at every breath? Still, Quarians are a more "hight mantenance" race, with the need of suits and dextro food, but can basically simply eat the same food as Turians and their suits are not that different from the volus ones. OMG, ARE THE VOLUS GOING? IMMERSION DESTROYED.  No, I get it... the suit thing and cryo stasis just threw me off with the quarians. It didn't really make sense until some insight was offered by the quarian delegates in here. So, like I said, it's acceptable to me that they come along as long as HOW is explained sufficiently. Regardless of whether I like them or not. lol |
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Jan 21, 2017 2:50:54 GMT
I could see the initiative hiring a handful of quarians to lend their expertise. If there's only a tiny amount of them coming along (the ones the project know about anyway) I don't think they'd be a burden honestly. If we do get a quarian squad mate though, he's got to be male (so he won't be compared to Tali) and I would love it if he was a thief or a con artist. We need a "filthy suit rat" who wears the title like a badge of honor  . He would be one of the quarians who snuck unto the Nexus and no matter how hard security try, they can't seem to catch him. It's like he's always one step ahead... It would be hilarious if he first meets Ryder by pulling a fast one over him/her. You think he's another poor quarian like Tali who needs rescuing but then it turns out he played you to get something he wanted. Ryder eventually chases him down and confronts him but it takes a lot of effort to do so. Liam immediately hates the guy and wants the book thrown at him (he is a cop after all) but Ryder see's someone smart and resourceful. Instead of handing him over to Nexus security she proposes he works for her instead. If he's part of her pathfinder team, he would be able to move around on the Nexus without issue. Provided he stops breaking the law there of course. Much to Liam's annoyance, the wise-cracking quarian agrees to the deal. He'd serve as comic relief as well as offering a more morally grey perspective. For example, he'd have something to say or contribute if you bring him along to the shadier corners of Andromeda. If your Ryder decides to take part in a bit of illegal activity herself (like shepard was able to do a lot of in ME2)he'll approve of it. If Peebee and Vetra are going to bump heads then this character will definitely have problems with Liam. |
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. He would be one of the quarians who snuck unto the Nexus and no matter how hard security try, they can't seem to catch him. It's like he's always one step ahead...