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Post by jpcab on Feb 12, 2017 23:28:09 GMT
i guess we ll have to wait and see. i just hate the Asari with the mask. Oh no i already said that 20 times Sorry I m being childish Given my preference for a personality that's more lighthearted and cheerful, raccoon Asari is shaping up to be best waifu in ME:A. racoon Asari?? ahaha lol thats good one...i only now associated that..racoon lol Thanks for that image.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2017 23:28:26 GMT
i really hope not, but when i saw the twins and the Asari with the "Zorro" mask i felt a bit disappointed . They re kids. Do not really look soldiers. I was expecting more mature characters on the Shepard line.
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Post by maxon on Feb 12, 2017 23:30:41 GMT
I will be fine with it as long as they give that Sloane person some wrinkles.
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Post by javeart on Feb 12, 2017 23:36:09 GMT
I agrew with everyone else about younger characters =/= childish =/= lighter
That said, I've my made my peace with a younger PC, but truth is I still would like her to be older. On the other hand, I'm quite happy that MEA is supossed to have a lighter tone
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Feb 12, 2017 23:37:26 GMT
Personally I'm a little tired of the "everything must be super mature and dark and gritty" thing the entertainment industry has had going on for a while now anyway. Well, the ''dark and gritty'' thing has mainly been bait to get the edgelords on board, I do not remember any studio taking a serious attempt at making their game(s) dark, mature and gritty.
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Post by SKAR on Feb 12, 2017 23:39:44 GMT
I agrew with everyone else about younger characters =/= childish =/= lighter That said, I've my made my peace with a younger PC, but truth is I still would like her to be older. On the other hand, I'm quite happy that MEA is supossed to have a lighter tone Who said anything about a lighter tone? There's gonna be nothing childish about MEA. look at gears of war 4, perfect example of young protag not childish.
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Post by Saboru on Feb 12, 2017 23:42:54 GMT
It depends what you mean by childish. Quirky character designs, more light hearted story, bit more slam bang action? Well, it worked bloody well for ME2, so I say let's go with it. The main thing is that it knows what it wants to be, commits to that and does it well.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 12, 2017 23:43:31 GMT
i guess we ll have to wait and see. i just hate the Asari with the mask. Oh no i already said that 20 times Sorry I m being childish Given my preference for a personality that's more lighthearted and cheerful, raccoon Asari is shaping up to be best waifu in ME:A. Now that I remember, there is The 100 with a young cast(with a raccoon paint character, it was the best character there too) and is dark and gritty, so it all about maturity really, not the age of the cast.
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Post by javeart on Feb 12, 2017 23:46:50 GMT
I agrew with everyone else about younger characters =/= childish =/= lighter That said, I've my made my peace with a younger PC, but truth is I still would like her to be older. On the other hand, I'm quite happy that MEA is supossed to have a lighter tone Who said anything about a lighter tone? There's gonna be nothing childish about MEA. look at gears of war 4, perfect example of young protag not childish. I was trying to say precisely that I agree that there was no reason to believe that MEA was going to be childish... that's why I said that I agree with what most people was saying, that younger didn't mean childish nor lighter and that lighter didn't mean childish either... As for who said that MEA is going to have a lighter tone, is something I read a few times from devs, though I'm not sure if they used these exact words
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Post by illusivecake on Feb 12, 2017 23:56:28 GMT
i really hope not, but when i saw the twins and the Asari with the "Zorro" mask i felt a bit disappointed . They re kids. Do not really look soldiers. I was expecting more mature characters on the Shepard line. I don't mind so much that they're young and inexperienced, I'm actually looking forward to a story that isn't the end of the world/galaxy. I hope it's a more personal story or a more "local" story, if you will. Star Trek or even Star Wars is a good example of a story that can be both personal and effect a whole galaxy without ending everything in existence to the point that we literally have to leave the known galaxy just to accommodate a world-altering choice. Bioware seems to have a tendency to do this lately. First the ME trilogy and it looks like the Dragon Age series is headed in a similar direction. It's like they decided that they can't write a story or have drama without escalating it to the the end of the world. Seriously, it's possible to write a good story and have drama and mature plotlines without destroying everything. Please note: I'm not suggesting that's what you want. And I also love Mass Effect and Dragon Age... I'm just ranting a bit. Rawr!
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Post by jpcab on Feb 13, 2017 0:01:13 GMT
Star Trek and Star wars did use the end of the world thing some times..i think. Actually when i put this question i wasn't thinking about that subject. But now that you guys are talking about.. we have to remember one thing, Milky way its still there. Mass Effect writers sooner or later should have to deal with that subject again. Maybe not now or in this upcoming games. But its still there
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 0:05:38 GMT
Being lighter in tone, or more personal, won't reduce what you're fighting for. Either you find a new homeworld for your species, or 20.000 will remain frozen steak until the freezer's energy ends.
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Post by derrame on Feb 13, 2017 0:12:17 GMT
yes, and more gay, transgender, bisexual, politically correct, and more colorful, (no offense of course) more for newcomers it will be better in many ways, i'm sure of it
the times they are a changing...
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 13, 2017 0:22:40 GMT
i really hope not, but when i saw the twins and the Asari with the "Zorro" mask i felt a bit disappointed . They re kids. Do not really look soldiers. I was expecting more mature characters on the Shepard line. I understand your concerns. I'm less worried about the age of the Ryder twins, and slightly more annoyed by the goofy ass asari. The crew is younger than Shepard, but they aren't too young. Wars are fought predominately by young people. Young people, despite their lack of experience headed into assignments, carry weighty tasks every day in real life. The younger crew doesn't preclude a mature, non-silly story. Hopefully, the writers will deliver such. I don't consider being 22 a kid. They are young adults, growing into full adults. I agree in general. Speaking specifically, though, it depends upon the individual in question. What has been their life experience? How maturely does he or she comport himself or herself? How much older (and often wiser) is the person asking the question? Life experience means a lot; as do the years of life to put that experience into perspective. Some people are excellent beyond their years. Some people still act like foolish kids well into adulthood. I'm not sure the above accomplished anything. Some 22yo act like adults. Some still act like kids. When I hear about a 22yo I don't know, I tend to think of that person as just past kid-stage. If I'm interacting with such an individual in person, though, I tend to think of them as a very inexperienced near-adult, remembering when I was once in their shoes. Individuals are extremely varied, though, and frequently defy generalizations.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 0:24:54 GMT
i really hope not, but when i saw the twins and the Asari with the "Zorro" mask i felt a bit disappointed . They re kids. Do not really look soldiers. I was expecting more mature characters on the Shepard line. I understand your concerns. I'm less worried about the age of the Ryder twins, and slightly more annoyed by the goofy ass asari. The crew is younger than Shepard, but they aren't too young. Wars are fought predominately by young people. Young people, despite their lack of experience headed into assignments, carry weighty tasks every day in real life. I don't consider being 22 a kid. They are young adults, growing into full adults. I agree in general. Speaking specifically, though, it depends upon the individual in question. What has been their life experience? How maturely does he or she comport himself or herself? How much older (and often wiser) is the person asking the question? Life experience means a lot; as do the years of life to put that experience into perspective. Some people are excellent beyond their years. Some people still act like foolish kids well into adulthood. I'm not sure the above accomplished anything. Some 22yo act like adults. Some still act like kids. When I hear about a 22yo I don't know, I tend to think of that person as just past kid-stage. If I'm interacting with such an individual in person, though, I tend to think of them as a very inexperienced near-adult, remembering when I was once in their shoes. Individuals are extremely varied, though, and frequently defy generalizations. Based on the twins backgrounds they are far more mature than most real life 22 year olds, but I do hope Sara's hotheadedness shows her youth still fighting its way through her adult development
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Post by lextrags on Feb 13, 2017 0:27:02 GMT
This adventure will probably be more light-hearted, but there will definitely be some gritty Bioware plot mystery meat concealed within this sandwich of a game. Why a sandwich? because sandwiches are great and varied! Every new sandwich is a new exploration into the mysteries of flavor. You can also choose to have the same sandwich for that same great flavor. This analogy has gotten a bit off-track but essentially I am saying the tone may be based on your responses and what expressions you aim Ryder in. Wishful thinking? Most definitely...
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 13, 2017 0:27:19 GMT
I understand your concerns. I'm less worried about the age of the Ryder twins, and slightly more annoyed by the goofy ass asari. The crew is younger than Shepard, but they aren't too young. Wars are fought predominately by young people. Young people, despite their lack of experience headed into assignments, carry weighty tasks every day in real life. I agree in general. Speaking specifically, though, it depends upon the individual in question. What has been their life experience? How maturely does he or she comport himself or herself? How much older (and often wiser) is the person asking the question? Life experience means a lot; as do the years of life to put that experience into perspective. Some people are excellent beyond their years. Some people still act like foolish kids well into adulthood. I'm not sure the above accomplished anything. Some 22yo act like adults. Some still act like kids. When I hear about a 22yo I don't know, I tend to think of that person as just past kid-stage. If I'm interacting with such an individual in person, though, I tend to think of them as a very inexperienced near-adult, remembering when I was once in their shoes. Individuals are extremely varied, though, and frequently defy generalizations. Based on the twins backgrounds they are far more mature than most real life 22 year olds, but I do hope Sara's hotheadedness shows her youth still fighting its way through her adult development Yeah, they're defintely the 1%. Sprinkle biotic potential on top of that, and add Alliance and N7-daddy training to boot, and you have future Pathfinders. I suspect that we can play our protagonist as a hot-head.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 0:28:10 GMT
Based on the twins backgrounds they are far more mature than most real life 22 year olds, but I do hope Sara's hotheadedness shows her youth still fighting its way through her adult development Yeah, they're defintely the 1%. Sprinkle biotic potential on top of that, and add Alliance and N7-daddy training to boot, and you have future Pathfinders. I suspect that we can play our protagonist as a hot-head. I would love it! She just looks so fiery! Scott looks like he would always be holding her back from attacking someone for making fun of her looks or job.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 13, 2017 0:32:26 GMT
They've not only said more "youthful" but also more "casual" and that murder-mystery part of the TGA footage and just my overall impression of the cast, I'm kinda expecting it to be Mass Effect going full-on fantasy and nerd-like with characters more akin to what a bunch of players would come up with in a game of DnD.
There's just something about it so far, I'm not sure what to expect.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Feb 13, 2017 0:35:56 GMT
The way I view it is like this: A younger cast has potential growth, Shep was pretty much set in their ways by the start of ME1, yet the cast of Andromeda, will no doubt start off looking at the universe through 'kid eyes.' Being gleeful & excitable at the start, but how the narrative evolves, how the characters react to being put in life-or-death situations will show just how mature the story is. A mature narrative is all about character evolution & in the case of ME:A building a new hero, the twins will change, adapt & grow & how they do, that shows the maturity of the narrative.
My thoughts on the subject.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 13, 2017 0:36:48 GMT
They've not only said more "youthful" but also more "casual" and that murder-mystery part of the TGA footage and just my overall impression of the cast, I'm kinda expecting it to be Mass Effect going full-on fantasy and nerd-like with characters more akin to what a bunch of players would come up with in a game of DnD. There's just something about it so far, I'm not sure what to expect. Yeah, I've felt this a bit, like a gnawing thing in the back of my mind. I can't point to anything solid; it's just a feeling. I hope we're wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2017 0:37:20 GMT
The way I view it is like this: A younger cast has potential growth, Shep was pretty much set in their ways by the start of ME1, yet the cast of Andromeda, will no doubt start off looking at the universe through 'kid eyes.' Being gleeful & excitable at the start, but how the narrative evolves, how the characters react to being put in life-or-death situations will show just how mature the story is. A mature narrative is all about character evolution & in the case of ME:A building a new hero, the twins will change, adapt & grow & how they do, that shows the maturity of the narrative. My thoughts on the subject. The devs did say that MEA is not a trilogy, but a saga, so the characters will grow with it even if Ryder is not our PC next game.
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Post by vonuber on Feb 13, 2017 0:56:43 GMT
Never really understood people who say mass effect is dark or mature. Sure mass effect 3 has this war going on with populations supposedly bring destroyed by a bunch of machine gods, but player experience is generally one of unrelenting victory with very little loss. It is perfectly possible to get to the end with the loss of only two squad mates and a fully supportive galaxy, including such heart-warming highlights as pinnochio legion and his cuddly toasters making friends with the 'character design not based on darth vader' space gypsies; or 'lore take a back seat uncle Wrex is here so it's fine for mordin to forget about korgan birth rates and clan structure' genophage arc.
Most of the horror occurred off screen and is fairly ignorable, in between the sexbot romance arc and listening in on people's conversations in a really creepy way to get them some tat in a shitty minigame - sorry, 'content' is what it is called now.
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Honourable mention to the husk in the synthesis ending who becomes self aware. Lovely.
If ME3 was truly about war and the threat of the reapers it would probably not be releasable.
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Post by xassantex on Feb 13, 2017 1:04:35 GMT
as long as it's not Dora the Explorer i'll take it.
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Post by mango1smoothie on Feb 13, 2017 1:08:38 GMT
Just because it's a younger cast of characters and the story won't be as dark as the trilogy doesn't mean it won't be a good mature story.
Many classic sci-fi shows of old were very lighthearted in nature, but yet had some really deep and mature stories that that hit you hard.
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