You think ME Andromeda will be more "childish" than the trilogy?

The last 'adult' game I played would have to be Life is Strange. That was very well written in my opinion.

Contrast that with Rise of the Tomb Raider, which whilst excellent fun had abysmal writing.

You can't - it's an opinion. You can disagree, sure, but that's about it.

Don't want to go too off topic here but I agree it does have weak spots; however I'll just say that if Bioware gets anywhere near the believability of a relationship that you can get between max and chloe- especially if you reciprocate the affection- then we would be on to a good thing indeed.

Honestly I'd argue yes, but I also have the opinion that objective writing qualities come from subjective consensus and traditions so you can sorta erase it.

But there are certain unwritten rules about dos and don'ts in narrative. But obviously if 100% of an audience likes something, who is anyone to say they can't like it because "objectively this and that."

I think a common guideline is that a narrative has to flow like a good argument. If it doesn't abide by logically sound developments no matter whether it's a story for 3-year-olds or one for the elderly, it's a bad story. If you have a lot of emotion in a story but no underlying reason to have it there then while some of the audience will instantly buy into it (try forcing yourself to cry and see how it affects people in the same room) but you'll turn away people that can see that you're just aiming for attention.

I'm very unspecific here, but LiS had some trouble all across the board, but I thought it was delightful amatuer bliss at the same time. It had authenticity, I'll give it that much. It also had a lot of tired tropes and directly lifted plots from other movies and novels about the exact same subject matter so a tad uncreative. Also terrible dialogue and inconsistent character motivations. Like I said, you can argue against it, but I won't say that you can't like it. I'll just say There are objective flaws because it does not flow well if you think of it as an argument.

The reason I say it has to flow like an argument is because storytelling comes from rhethoric and theatrics that are born from ideas about argumentative theory. They're what draw your attention in the first place. Pathos, Ethos, Logos and throw whatever philosopher's theory in there as well, and you get some of the basics for narrative finesse or structural design right down to the core. Anyone who can't follow those ideas are experimenting or failing but ultimately just imitators of something they aren't aware of.

*looks over student papers*

Yes, "objectively bad writing" is a thing.

What if they're just ahead of their time and you're too stuck in your ways to see it?

Sounds awfully familiar...ME and DA could be described similarly I think.

If only.

You won't be saying that when you hit 30 mate.

That's a categorically false statement. There's plenty of opinions that are built on fallacious and misconstrued logic and biased viewpoints. All opinions aren't subjective.

And be dead by 32 of some exotic disease?  

That...didn't' work out so well for ME3...just sayin'