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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 23, 2017 18:16:46 GMT
Well from all the reviews I've seen, the complaints are universal, bad facial animations and bugs galore. Does not bode well. We'll have to wait and see, but BioWare reportedly squashed 5,000 bugs after their 'press build' was locked. |
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 23, 2017 18:17:34 GMT
A comment on aesthetic quality is one of the most subjective opinions there is. What does "cartoony" even mean? Disney. Wonderful I love Disney. |
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 23, 2017 18:19:18 GMT
Well from all the reviews I've seen, the complaints are universal, bad facial animations and bugs galore. Does not bode well. We'll have to wait and see, but BioWare reportedly squashed 5,000 bugs after their 'press build' was locked. Well I hope they continue to refine the facial animations before release to avoid as much pearl clutching as possible. |
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Post by Beerfish on Feb 23, 2017 18:19:59 GMT
 Bad facial animations never bothered me anyway! |
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Post by colfoley on Feb 23, 2017 18:21:13 GMT
It's not that big of a concern because bio has always lagged in this department. As long as they have made some improvements...and given the recent pics of Sara it seems they have... Its not an empty promise.
The bugs however are another matter entirely.
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Post by armass81 on Feb 23, 2017 18:21:46 GMT
The best facial animation I've seen is Witcher 3, Yakuza 0 (the high rez cut-scenes are insane), and Uncharted 4 in that order. Most games facial animation is a huge step down from that. The facial animations in Halo 4 and 5 are fucking divine. Halo 4 is especially impressive since it's a last-gen game that came out just 7 months after ME3. Yeah but theyre also cinematics in a shooter game, how much dialogue does Halo 4 really have? Compared to the many hours of ME series, id say its not even comparable. |
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Post by malakizedek on Feb 23, 2017 18:22:09 GMT
After being almost universally ridiculed for having atrocious facial animations in one of the earlier trailers So in other words, you're not going to even care about differing opinions in this thread because you don't even acknowledge opinions other than the one you hold exist in the first place. You honestly thought the facial animations in the trailer--especially the disarm scene--were something to brag about? I'm doubtful. The whole point of my post is to express disappointment that the preview versions of the game don't seem to have seen much improvement. It's a totally legitimate complaint. Poor facial animations are very distracting. As others have pointed out, there are games like the Witcher 3 which are light years better than even the example I brought up in the OP. It's disheartening that after spending 5 YEARS developing MEA, the facial animations are compared to the Sims 3... |
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Post by hotdogbsg on Feb 23, 2017 18:22:48 GMT
Also worth mentioning for the sake of fairness, which is what I'm sure you intended, that this was a press build. Something the same article even states:
Of course, this was not a final build, and these are exactly the kinds of issues that tend to get hammered out at the end of development, but the bugs are worth mentioning. Hopefully the game releases without any of these issues.
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Post by KamenRyder on Feb 23, 2017 18:24:34 GMT
Does Horizon have squadmates? Dialogue between characters for hours? A whole galaxy to explore? No? Then shut up and Im not buying Pocahontas vs robot dinosaurs  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 18:24:38 GMT
I can understand but some of you have some crazy expectations.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 23, 2017 18:24:56 GMT
The facial animations in Halo 4 and 5 are fucking divine. Halo 4 is especially impressive since it's a last-gen game that came out just 7 months after ME3. Yeah but theyre also cinematics in a shooter game, how much dialogue does Halo 4 really have? Compared to the many hours of ME series, id say its not even comparable. Exactly. Context. |
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Post by malakizedek on Feb 23, 2017 18:27:05 GMT
Also worth mentioning for the sake of fairness, which is what I'm sure you intended, that this was a press build. Something the same article even states: Of course, this was not a final build, and these are exactly the kinds of issues that tend to get hammered out at the end of development, but the bugs are worth mentioning. Hopefully the game releases without any of these issues.Bugs are different than poor facial animations. Just because they squashed 5,000 bugs after their "press build" doesn't mean they've fixed the facial animations. Having said that, I'm glad they're trying to fix things still. |
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Feb 23, 2017 18:28:52 GMT
Also worth mentioning for the sake of fairness, which is what I'm sure you intended, that this was a press build. Something the same article even states: Of course, this was not a final build, and these are exactly the kinds of issues that tend to get hammered out at the end of development, but the bugs are worth mentioning. Hopefully the game releases without any of these issues.Bugs are different than poor facial animations. Just because they squashed 5,000 bugs after their "press build" doesn't mean they've fixed the facial animations. Having said that, I'm glad they're trying to fix things still. You do realize that bugs can pertain to cutscenes and their implementation too right? I love how gamers think they're professional software developers. |
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Post by bshep on Feb 23, 2017 18:32:13 GMT
Yeah but theyre also cinematics in a shooter game, how much dialogue does Halo 4 really have? Compared to the many hours of ME series, id say its not even comparable. Exactly. Context. True. I dare to say it would be less than 1/10 of the ammount of dialogue on ME3. Bugs are different than poor facial animations. Just because they squashed 5,000 bugs after their "press build" doesn't mean they've fixed the facial animations. Having said that, I'm glad they're trying to fix things still. You do realize that bugs can pertain to cutscenes and their implementation too right? I love how gamers think they're professional software developers. Sofa Devs...they are everywhere on the internet.  |
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 23, 2017 18:32:58 GMT
No matter what, they're not going to be worse than the last ME game. If I can still enjoy those I can enjoy this.
To summarize: /shrug
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Post by malakizedek on Feb 23, 2017 18:33:47 GMT
Bugs are different than poor facial animations. Just because they squashed 5,000 bugs after their "press build" doesn't mean they've fixed the facial animations. Having said that, I'm glad they're trying to fix things still. You do realize that bugs can pertain to cutscenes and their implementation too right? I love how gamers think they're professional software developers. I never pretended to be anything other than a concerned gamer and Bioware fan. I want nothing more than this game to be exceptional and sell ridiculously well. If Bioware ends up fixing bugs than make the facial animations look like garbage, then I will be ecstatic. All I'm saying is that AS OF NOW it doesn't look good. |
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Post by crom on Feb 23, 2017 18:36:26 GMT
My biggest worry is the bugs aka performance problems, i feel this will be another title with to many release bugs that detract from actual enjoyment and progress in the game. This game has now become one of buy it in 6 months when all the drama is over and hopefully all the bugs and performance problems truly fixed, cough DAI cough...
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Post by empirex on Feb 23, 2017 18:37:07 GMT
Code Red?
Naw, I think the technical issues will drag down initial reviews scores and impressions. If the core is solid, we will be fine.
Honestly, I am just expecting a Halo 4-lite game from Andromeda. I'm going to get my money worth but I doubt it will be anything to write home about.
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Post by missileglitcher on Feb 23, 2017 18:37:23 GMT
im concerned because this game is one of the worst games ever created. terrible story, terrible dialogue, terrible facial animations, terrible enemy ai, terrible selection of weapons. every single thing about this game is terrible. the game fails completely in every single department. so yes i am very concerned.
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Post by stysiaq on Feb 23, 2017 18:40:22 GMT
You know, it's possible that the bug fixes weren't there for the preview build. Maybe there were more pressing issues on the agenda? It's not like a PR tweet saying they'll work day and night on this actually means they will.
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Post by bigbad on Feb 23, 2017 18:40:36 GMT
If average-to-poor facial animations are the biggest problem with MEA, I will be fucking ecstatic.
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Post by guanxi on Feb 23, 2017 18:42:02 GMT
Well they always say facial animations are done last but we're cutting it a bit fine here. Facial animation in DAI were a little animatronic doll like at times but no more so than usual for a BioWare game, they were at the very least serviceable even on last gen platforms.
Oh BioWare, only you could go to the trouble of bringing in a professional MoCap team and end up with worst results than before.
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Post by stysiaq on Feb 23, 2017 18:43:13 GMT
If average-to-poor facial animations are the biggest problem with MEA, I will be fucking ecstatic. I get the feeling a lot of threads will be moved to the scepticism den. |
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 23, 2017 18:45:13 GMT
Code Red? That's a bit overdone, isn't it? How about "Minor Concern"?
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