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Post by jpcab on Feb 28, 2017 19:03:56 GMT
they always are.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 28, 2017 19:09:01 GMT
It is bad. Bitch all you want! Boo fucking hoo to anyone who complains about your bitching! EDIT: this was heavily edited to give obvious implication that I support Wavebend in this thread, which may be to the dismay of my current likers
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 28, 2017 19:09:39 GMT
Yea, it is. I can't be mad though because it's literally always been this way in ME games. I don't really play them for the combat.
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Post by missileglitcher on Feb 28, 2017 19:14:17 GMT
Yep, the entire AI in this game is stupid. Did you see that fiend in the last gameplay trailer? He was utterly useless. And did you see that ket soldier who was running on the spot because he was stuck against an invisible barrier? This is probably the worst AI I've ever seen in a game. No wonder the game sucks.
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Post by spacev3gan on Feb 28, 2017 19:18:27 GMT
To be honest the squad AI is not so bad for a Mass Effect game.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Feb 28, 2017 19:24:36 GMT
Much bitching, much meltdowns.
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Post by tjmitchem on Feb 28, 2017 19:32:16 GMT
Much bitching, much meltdowns. Business as usual.
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Post by deebo305 on Feb 28, 2017 19:34:50 GMT
Oh hi Wavebend
Congrats your the new dutch
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Post by PermTrouble on Feb 28, 2017 19:36:55 GMT
Did look like they did much directing of the companions. I wonder if you give Drack commands to cover somewhere it will override him wanting to charge folks for melee
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Post by llandwynwyn on Feb 28, 2017 19:39:18 GMT
People treating wavebend with so much disrespect smh
I've been worried since the other video and this one just reinforced my bad impressions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:42:17 GMT
Eh... a game heavily edited and cut, with a guy who can't even play properly is not going to change my mind about this game. It's about having fun for me, so I could care less about these little things tbh. I think people can whine and cry, swoon and praise all they want, but until they experience it for themselves, it can look twice as bad or twice as good because of how they wish to interpret it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:43:55 GMT
Holy shit dude. We get it. You hate this game already. Don't buy it and quit your bitching. The difference is I only bitch about important issues. I don't care about the facial animations. The core gameplay - what makes this a game for me, is completely broken for the most part. I could talk about the MASSIVE amounts of hand-holding (worse than DAI and TW3), the silly and chippering banter on alien worlds which makes zero sense, the obnoxious UI, the cover system, the animations, and the list goes on and on and on. But I'm focusing on what I think is important.
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Post by alexy on Feb 28, 2017 19:44:48 GMT
I think it's worth waiting for someone competent to play the game. So far, that hasn't been the case.
And in the fiend's case in particular, Ian already stated that its behaviour has been fixed.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Feb 28, 2017 19:46:43 GMT
Obviously final verdict will have to be rendered with the full game. But that doesn't mean these concerns are completely baseless.
I'd recommend approaching this with a little forethought and an open mind, not scorn and derision or doom and gloom for that matter.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 28, 2017 19:47:32 GMT
Oh hi Wavebend Congrats your the new dutch When did this happen? There's supposed to be certain protocol for this kind of transition. Is this not a civilization we live in?
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Post by ATR16 on Feb 28, 2017 19:48:08 GMT
Bad AI has been the norm, but at least you got to use their powers to compliment your play style for cool synergy during combat.
Now they're literally just meat shields.
"Bioware wouldn't change the way your squad AI works and interacts with you unless they made it totally awesome and way better than before" this place. Now its "Whatever, teammates aren't for combat anyway. Never have been"
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Post by vonuber on Feb 28, 2017 19:51:23 GMT
Er it looks no different to any of the other mass effect games. A team mate being useful was the exception, not the norm.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:54:34 GMT
Obviously final verdict will have to be rendered with the full game. But that doesn't mean these concerns are completely baseless. I'd recommend approaching this with a little forethought and an open mind, not scorn and derision or doom and gloom for that matter. The game has already gone gold, the footage we get should reflect that. Why would IGN grab their footage from an old, buggy build, and most importantly, why would BioWare let them?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 28, 2017 19:55:13 GMT
Yea, it is. I can't be mad though because it's literally always been this way in ME games. I don't really play them for the combat. neither do I I pla yit for the story and will again here
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 28, 2017 19:57:46 GMT
Obviously final verdict will have to be rendered with the full game. But that doesn't mean these concerns are completely baseless. I'd recommend approaching this with a little forethought and an open mind, not scorn and derision or doom and gloom for that matter. The game has already gone gold, the footage we get should reflect that. Why would IGN grab their footage from an old, buggy build, and most importantly, why would BioWare let them? Promotion is al lso we have som egameplay to ponder over and consider. It's not perfect I agree but it's something tha twe didn't have before it's a chance to see the game at work and I like that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 19:58:11 GMT
Obviously final verdict will have to be rendered with the full game. But that doesn't mean these concerns are completely baseless. I'd recommend approaching this with a little forethought and an open mind, not scorn and derision or doom and gloom for that matter. The game has already gone gold, the footage we get should reflect that. Why would IGN grab their footage from an old, buggy build, and most importantly, why would BioWare let them? BW gave them that demo before they continued polishing it up and announcing it went gold. This makes it a bit confusing tbh. Some people might not heed the warnings that it's a non-polished gameplay vid.
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Post by Rico01 on Feb 28, 2017 20:03:20 GMT
It says "Pre-release footage" in the video in the very beginning as well.
That said, the team AI doesn't look like deep thought or that other chess computer by any means. Does it bother me? No. I've never been able to use my squad in any form or fashion in the other BW games other than meat shields... so this isn't an important selling point for me, nor is it a point to disregard the game as a pile of goo. If you want to do that, be my guest since that is your right. Same for me, it's my right to not care about your points.
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Post by isaidlunch on Feb 28, 2017 20:04:35 GMT
Since when is bringing up valid concerns about gameplay (with evidence) bitching? You people I think it's a much bigger issue now that you can't move them while paused or revive them with medi-gel. I can only hope they've worked on squad AI since then.
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Post by Cypher on Feb 28, 2017 20:04:53 GMT
I think it's a combination of weak AI and shitty player, since he didn't do anything to move squadmates out of the way and just let them stand there, soaking up damage while missing 78% of the shots he made by 404 feet.
I swear, IGN people play horrible on purpose.
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